Nice story bro.

Only ever happened to me once not with a WG in Pattaya. Woke up in the morning still drunk from the night before, the girl literally just leaned over & started blowing me.

I was so drunk the night before I cannot even remember picking her up.

A pleasant surprise.

BJ in the morning.

OK, this I will admit is my ultimate fantasy.  I'm asleep in the morning (morning as in 8 or 9 am, not 6 am where I'll punch whoever wakes me up in the face) and she blows me to awaken me.  Then CIM.  

I have lived with several girls and I don't know how to tell them this is my fantasy without spelling it out.  I remember watching a Japanese porn and it's been in my mind ever since.  And not, I'm half awake expecting it, but I'm asleep totally unaware and wake up to her going nuts just blowing me.  

I guess you can get a WG to do it.  How would you go about asking for it?  The WGs I lived with wake up at 2 pm and way later than me.  

And how would one ask his significant other to "do" this?  My girlfriends in the past have been open to sex and we do some fun stuff, but I could not bring up the "I love a BJ in the morning when I'm still asleep" when talking sex.  Or perhaps we don't talk about fantasies as much as we imagine we can.  It's like, "we can talk about anything!!"  but the real deal is "We can talk about anything that doesn't make me or her look/feel/think bad."

Tell you what - I suspect that you - like a lot of us I think - had gotten horny in the middle of the night and decided to get the So/GF all hot and bothered too - right?  And gotten down on them to stoke up the fire - right?

Now, one of 2 things usually happens; one of course is that she WILL get turned on too and get it on and the other is that she'd get all cranky and turn you down flat.  But in BOTH cases, its a golden opportunity for you to discuss YOUR fantasy/desire.  If she's like most SO/GF's, she'd take your wishes to heart and....grant you your dream sooner or later!!

In any case, the key to fulfilling each and every one of one's own fantasy is to discuss it openly, honestly and...in earnest with one's partner.  And even if one's partner is a WG - well...again earnestly discuss your "wish" with her - and offer extra emoluments of course!

SEAN - good luck!

best to hint at these things, LR, with civvies.

first time this happened to me was a GF. i was sound asleep and she decided she wanted my dick inside her.

WGs...seems to depend on two things: what's yr working-relationship like, or what's the SLA (Service Level Agreement)?

as i'm madly in lust with yr avatar, LR, here's some salacious anecdotes:

in 2004, when i was living in Bangkok and doing visa-runs, a good way to exit Thailand was to get a cheap flight to Hat Yai and get a minibus to Penang. once i took Betty, who i've written about on this forum before (and posted pix). we got the same flight down, but as she wasn't leaving Thailand (don't think she ever has), i got her a separate flight back. we spent a couple of nights there, got massages, had fun--i have a foto of her ankle-deep in red firecracker-wrappings as it was Chinese New Year.

her flight back was at 06:30, she was a trooper about it (we got along). she did the math and said: "OK, i wake up at 04:30, give you a blowjob, then go to the airport." quote unquote.

so i knew it'd happen but was of course sound asleep at 04:30 when she woke up and immediately delivered a Betty-level blowjob. this is the only time we ever had sex where there was naught but a lovely BJ. then she was off. i went back to sleep.

in '05, in Phnom Penh, i hooked up with this adorable VN who shall remain nameless (i'll post a foto tho to tickle yr fancy). she was a delight, and that evening she came over, i unwrapped her, we went out to dinner with a pal of mine and his date, then went back to the hotel for more sex and TV-viewing.

next AM, i wake up and check her out--this gal had amazing, i mean STELLAR brests, she never wd let me foto her nude but trust me, they were cantilevered nubile wonders. VN gals cd sleep thru anything--i had a pal who visited PP who said he wd pick ul their pillow a few centimeters and drop it, they kept right on sleeping.

looking at this angelic delight, why, i found myself with one helluva stiffy. so i nudged her. nothing. i nudged harder.

she raised herself on one elbow and looked at me, more asleep than not. and without a WORD, she immediately leaned over and swallowed my cock. it was heavenly.
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i saw this gal a few times. she was as sweet as she looks and that mouth was as competent as it looks.

after i'd finished up, she went into the bathroom, tidied up, dressed, and left. but i saw her again after that.

there are other stories but i hope these will suffice for now.

JtB

[ Last edited by  JackTheBat at 30-6-2012 00:59 ]

Well...seems like you got great reception here on your little snippet and picture of your "BJ in the morning" gal.

Consider putting up more info AND pictures on the report section?
Where we could perv some more and suitably show you our appreciation??!!

SEAN - LOL!

How many times have you thought that locals do NOT get fleeced? That at all times it's always a better deal when you go with a local?

Welll.... how about the oft practiced and quite International business ploy of fleecing EVERYBODY at "entertainment places"!!  

Hell, this happens blatantly in Wanchai - where it's local who instead get charged entrance fees and pity those locals who dares to venture into the velvet curtain bars! Instead of being acknowledged as a local and being treated fairly, Local Chinese who walks into these bars instead gets taken to the cleaners - as the operators figures (quite rightly I must say) that the guy is 1. Not gonna be back in either case 2. Has reasons (face, reputation, not wanting to cause a ruckus on home grounds, family etc) to just pay up.

This is the same with my experience in Manila, in Thailand and just about all over places notably in Asia (less so in more Western countries).  I go with a local to an "entertainment joint favored by foreigners" just about anywhere and instead of getting favorable treatment, we instead get ripped off.....and my local friend just smile and wave it all off!!  Oh not at those places that ARE haunts of the locals - but at places where foreigners abound; those places are poison to go to with a local!

SEAN - So...... whaddya think about my hypothesis??!!

That doesn't make sense.  Not your hypothesis, but the practice.

I'm sure any business requires word of mouth and local patrons to recommend the place in the first place.

If it's for expats and foreigners living in the area, then nothing locals can do.  Next time you get a foreign client, chances are, you'll never recommend that place.  Expats and foreigners recommending and spreading the word would perhaps amount to a minuscule rise in business.  

Unless they rely on advertisements and brand name, then sure, but only if they're a big shot.  I'm sure restaurant business/entertainment venues can't rely on this name recognition.

This reminds me of Louis Vuitton at Champs-Elysées.  They get so much visitors and business, they would more likely allow Japanese (or Asian) tourists in ahead of local Frenchman (or Europeans).  I remember I was let in ahead of some people and they just said something in French, gave a gesture, and left.         


But your hypothesis does warrant a psychological analysis.
What if...especially with entertainment or adult venues rely on costumer satisfaction?  Let's say they see a customer go in.  The customer enjoys himself.  The customer has a smile when he is leaving.  Would the establishment charge him a bit less anticipating repeat business?

Let's say a second scenario where the costumer goes in.  The customer does not enjoy himself.  The customer is clearly disappointed, full of complaints, or clearly won't be coming back.  Would the establishment charge him a ripoff price thinking, what the hell?  This would be consistent with SEAN's (1) and (2).

Don't know, but this would sound shady but kinda effective.

   <--NINJA!!

Hmmm.... nobody interested on these IC card one can use to board the CRH trains i/o having to line up for the blasted tickets??

Anyway...I have found out a few more things about this if anybody wants to apply for it.

Cost - HK$ 480 (gold) HK$ 1, 000 (platinum) card / annual fee waived for the first 3 years (no regular / cheaper card. Only gold and platinum ones. Yeah!)

No surcharges on usage in both Hong Kong as well as in China - Thus NO surcharge for buying CRH tickets. (but I still don't know how they'd charge if one is to travel First I/O economy class on the CRH)

Accompanying documentation required when applying -  HongKong ID card/passport, income/asset proof, 3 months proof of residence.

And its this last requirement that has me stumped as they will NOT take my office address and insist on my residential proof. Yeah, I go and ask SO to give me this and she's going to ask why I need this, and I say to apply for a credit card. Then she's going to ask me if she'll get a supplementary card and then when the bill comes, its going to have a listing of when and where I have been to in China. Yeah. Right!

SEAN - Nope, this card is out for me. But others may want it, because it IS very convenient!

LOL!
I never said that that Chinese/Asian Economy 101 makes sense - at least not in the "classical sense!"

Yeah, all you say is rationally quite correct - but lets follow the steps of a LOCAL CHINESE walking into a Wanchai Velvet curtain Bar with a foreigner - and this foreigner will either be local or a visitor.

If the Foreigner is a local, he would usually be way more familiar with the way things work there versus the local Chinese - and will most likely not only take charge, but will be the person who the Mamasan would approach. Depending on how the Chinese acts, the bill will either be what Foreigners usually pay or...if the Chinese shows signs of wanting to have face, gonna be the payor, quite meek/not wanting to cause a ruckus etc - balloon up quite substantially.

Now, if the foreigner is a visitor - then FOR SURE the bill is gonna get inflated for all the reasons I've stated above. The bar operator KNOWS that both these guys will most likely never ever come back again (quite rightly) so what's to stop him from doing so?

Bad word of mouth? Hell...these places already have such amongst locals! The visitors?
Well....they're gonna come irregardless!!

Trust me, this hypothesis is correct! I've been in way too many of these bars in Hong Kong/all over Asia too many times

And specific to your question


Asian/Chinese Economics 101 will result in precisely the opposite of what you're implying/thinking rationally!!

If the customer is all satisfied, Chinese/Asian operators will reason  - heck I really offer a superior product, that no matter how much I charge, the guy loves my place so much he'll just HAVE TO come back. And on top of that, if I charge him too little, he'll be too embarrassed to bring his friends etc to such a low priced joint!

On the second scenario, an Asian operator is gonna be scared shitless that the unhappy guy is some big shot who'll come back and exact revenge etc. This is why we've got Local PRC guys screaming and shouting all over the place!! It's the POWER that counts in China!!  LOL

SEAN - Asian/Chinese Economics 101. Yarrroo!

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 30-6-2012 13:10 ]

Well, I think mainland china would be a different scenario right? In china local Chineseget better treatment than foreigners. Say you are in shanghai and you speak shanghai near to managers at a KTV they usually treat you better as you have a higher chanceof being a repeat customer and this do no fleece you.

Or am I getting this conversation all mixed up here due to my old age?


Asndragon

Please note that I'm only referring to mongering places ALREADY mostly patronized by foreigners. Only very few of those places in the whole of China - places like the Bars in Shekou, Sz, Zapata's in Shanghai, Maggie's bar in Beijing etc. The same sort of thing happens at these places.
But yeah, this phenomena of locals being treated worse at foreign dominated venues happens a lot more in other mongering destinations in the rest of Asia.

On the other hand, the 2 scenarios that lowrider asks about - well....that is Classic Chinese economics 101!

SEAN - its really a screwed up world ain't it?

SEAJ,

These observations harken back to an old changping thread regarding the customer is always wrong in China.

This is why China has never built a trusted global brand.  Ours is a business culture of razor-thin margins, small-ball politics, how-can-i-screw-my-suppliers-customers-and-workers philosophy.

As you say, the Chinese proprietor's mental calculus is highly nonintuitive, but it's invariably a one-step tactical lookahead as opposed to a long-term strategy.

His thinking goes, "This customer is a local, value-conscious Chinese.  Rip him off so he doesn't come back again.  This customer is a stupid laowei.  RMB is monopoly money for him, so rip him off too."

While this kind of thinking is of course profitable, it's small-ball and nonscalable.  Chinese business owners set up shop, make some money, close it down, start a new one.  High-margin, white-shoe global chains like Starbucks are fantastical creatures in China.

Yes, the frustrations that many of us more Western thinking bros experience in China is legend actually!

But I've personally taken a more benign/relaxed attitude towards this all .....as it's just toooooo frustrating to challenge or even delve into the justification for such!
Understand it as much as possible, relax AND go on to take as much advantage of such thinking/practices as is practicable!!
Just go with the flow and be there to enjoy the ride above it all!!

Another thing one do need to remember is that such "backward" thinking IS the result of unenlightened minds and practitioners' own inadequacies and fears.  So..... how easy is it to turn the situation around to one's own advantage?

Make sense??  
Instead of just feeling frustrated/aggrieved?

And oh yeah - it's also fun and games playing them!!  LOL!

SEAN - yeah, I guess I can also be a bastard!!

Since leaving this forum for quite sometimes, I don't really have much idea on what was happening. I just keep browsing this forum when
suddenly my favorite poster of this forum come into my head - GOOSE. I press the search button then I found this thread.


Read for a while that thread and a fear come back shadowing me.

[ Last edited by  johancusco at 1-7-2012 13:14 ]

Hey Johan - forget about Goose - just that he's history.
Too long/too complicated a story to relate and you're better off just staying FAR away from the whole sorry saga!

And of course just come back on here and to the rest of our board to share/care (which I see you doing) AND to have fun and games!

And guys, do take a gander (LOL! You like my use of this word??!! LOL) over to Johan's new reports and GREAT pictures.
I'm sure he'll appreciate your welcoming him back!

Angeles City - Nicole from Crystal Palace
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Angeles City - Love making at LOVE & MUSIC
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Good Stuff!!!

SEAN - I still like your avatar! Soooooo Cute!!

What make me fear is, I did give DGS +K too much last night.
I love DGS reports about Philippines and to admit those report make me
wanna come back here. But I worried they(moderator/admin) will think
we play the same game.

And the worst case if they will think I play "Siklong69"s game where
johancusco and devidgodspeed are the same person with multiple ID because I did
copy DGS FR summary structure to be edited in my FR.
I hope they will take a closer look at my scenario here before assuming something that is false.


TQ for the compliment and please dont point your middle finger at me ever and ever again.

You worry too much. We all give DGS reports a lot of Ks. He earns them. His Philippines reports are exemplary. We need more users who report like that. And if you are copying his format, good on you. Especially when you put on lots of pics of the venues and logistics. Good on you.

TQ bro for your support.
I will just carry it on.

SALAMAT SA SUPORTA!

I think china is getting better over time. They certainly needed some work on their business outlook and business practice. But china also learns things super fast and adaptquickly to market demands. Eventually they will catch on as all the Asian tigers of the days became more service oriented and more open and friendly to foreigners.

Asndragon

"Taking advantage" of their myopic thinking just means not patronizing those velvet curtain bars I guess.  Hard
to extract value from them.

In my view, both buyers and sellers suffer in a business milieu of "pay me or go fuck yourself."

ON THE OTHER HAND, I actually prefer the smallballness as I'm only in China for a few days
at a time, and I couldn't possibly learn anything more complicated than "pay me or go fuck yourself."