@Tristiany
It's not the physical starfishes that bother me, it is the mental ones.  It doesn't matter which position they are in, doggie, CG, whatever - you get the impression that they are just making their shopping list or something.
OTOH, you have a physical starfish who through lack of energy or skill is just lying there - but she is giving the vibe of having a great time.  Even that cute sucking in the bottom lip is enough.

@travelpro
I reload online all the time.   ...Oh you are talking about SIM cards -- never mind.  ...and yeah, it was unload...

@Seaj
Yeah figuring out everyone's icebreakers might be fun.  Especially if they are all the same ones and the girls are just dutifully smiling.  But that is an interesting question:

What do you do for that period of time between getting in the door and getting on with it?  Is it worth the time and energy to 'set the mood', or is the result not much different than just getting on with it?

A repeat is different - you can both act like long-lost lovers.  But on the first time, what are some approaches?

[ Last edited by  yazoo at 25-2-2012 15:16 ]

Hmmmm, there isn't any rule is there?  Every setting/gal is different, so just go with the flow.  I don't really have a routine..

In general, with my bargirls, I like to bring a bottle of wine, or some chips or something.  flop on the bed and chat for a bit till it just happens.....  Sometimes we're ripping off our clothes before the door shuts, other times we're in a heavy conversation that keeps us engaged for a while before peeling off our clothes.

Welll.... your punts via Wanchai bars and WC bar girls probably does not need much by way of "ice-breakers" or routine as you probably already got to know her a bit better during your pre-copulation dance/chats at the bar!!

It probably applies more to situations where you meet a gal one moment and the next minute you're ready to get it on!  Like when going up to a walk-up/hotel walk in Hong kong, and elsewere, when one goes to a BBS to get a girl or a sauna in China, a soapy in LOS, a TER/Redbook/Craig's list gal in the U.S, a FKK in Europe etc etc.

One's only got a few moments to "set the mood" and get the punt off on to a good start.  In China, the first questions USUALLY asked are "where are you from?" or "how's business these days? Better or worse?"

As for myself, I usually try to zero in on whatever it was that attracted me to pick her amongst others and pay lots of compliments to her on this outstanding quality I particularly like.  It makes it much easier for me as what I express IS the truth!!

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 26-2-2012 23:42 ]

we are still using blackberry messenger to chat
i hate to say it, but it is so popular in indonesia that most of them have it.
i do want to have android though, but its still not as popular as blackberry(this slow loading phone which always jammed , program crash ). so i'll stick to blackberry for a little while till most of my friends move on to either android or iPhone.

for iPhone, i don't like it as it is so pricy, and lack of freedom to tinker with it.
it is cool and surely more friendly to public for those who don't like to tinker with their phone.
i am sure that more people will move to this gadget 2 or 3 years in the future

thanks Tuffbod for reminding me there is VoIP
i'll ask if she had a cam on her computer so that we can Video calls.
and resort to VoIP if she don't have it

and thanks Seaj, but i would like to take it slow , it will be my first time having a girlfriend if i really get her attention . but there is a little problem. she is not living in Java Island, instead she is in "Medan", located at Sumatera Island.

Blackberry rules in Indonesia no doubt, everyone had one...well almost everyone. Bu. I am sure you could find many alternatives on the net that can be used for free for you to chat with the girl!

Yeah cam, man...you can even do some cam-sex with her if she is game for it!

nah... i'll pass on that cam-sex
i am not good in acting

To Seaj:
i am in Jakarta, living at Jakarta Barat. it is sucks living here. traffic jam everyday
what a waste of time living in this country

Gotta appreciate this thread and your efforts, SEAj, but all these simultaneous discussions makes it odd at times.

Anyway, back to that topic of "ice-breakers" when entering a room.  You are right that my bargirls are a different scene - the ice-breaking is done long before you hit a room so things flow pretty naturally once that door closes.  GFE is highly elevated as a result.

But with Walkups it IS different.  Ya have mere minutes to try to set a positive, relaxed mood.  Trickier.  I like to use Chyloryform.  Keeps 'em calm.  

(Haha.  Joking).  

Seriously, I find humor works better than anything, but the language barrier can make it doubly challenging.  A "cat-whistle" seems to work if timed right.  Usually brings a smile.  I've turned tunes on my phone and danced around a bit  wearing a goofy grin (that worked well - she laughed like hell at me, but then joined me.  Turned a somewhat tense room into a fun time).   And usually, I can spot something in the room that can be an instant and personal topic (a stuffed animal, her music collection or DVD lying around, a picture, etc.).  Or her hometown --- chances are I know it and maybe have been there -- so an super easy way to just start engaging in a chat.

But... Ya really can't force it nor expect much in your first visit with a walkup.  Hopefully it will flow easily and comfortably, and if so, expect a much more GFE'y session the second time you visit.

Yeah - you're right! We DO discuss all sorts of things and at random times;  But IMHO it IS the reason why guys do participate here as we don;t need no rhyme or reason...or even timelines ... to get into a discussion or to come up with whatever is in our minds at the time.  The charm of the IDLE chat thread!

Like say for example - that I find it incredible that just about each and every Hong Kong  report I've read on this forum for so many years NEVER even mentions about THE PONG!!  I mean, in the China mongering scene, I and most other punters I know always fear the DREADED PONG or gals with stinky pussies!  How come ALL Hong Kong WG's, whether from China and elsewhere that gets reported here NEVER seem to be afflicted with the dreaded pong?  

HOW COME???
LMAO
SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 28-2-2012 12:39 ]

The double credits for posting has nothing to do with it? Not even slightly?!

I personally assumed that more than 50% of pussies are stinky and I would only try to get close to it if it looks neat to me. So far, I've never met a dreaded pong yet or maybe I met one but I didn't notice it is. My experience tells me that younger the WG is, lesser chance she is a dreaded pong.

SEAJ...again, Hong Kong is much more civilized in many ways (hate to sound so bias), so it may very well be that the handler/agents pose strict rules to the WGs....i.e. they must keep their pussies cleaned all the time. Or perhaps due to the number of punters visiting them that their pussies are always cleaned and do not even have the chance to stink?

BTW, one of the beauty of this thread is the diversity of the topics brought up...Wander is right, there are so many topics going on at the same times (sometimes) that it's indeed a little confusing....but then again, that's the fun part!


@ Gonuts

Cam-sex...no acting required! Just enjoy yourself man! You show your stuff/tool, she show you hers! It's fun...different kind of sex, but fun nonetheless..well...maybe you are technically playing with yourself, but there is still someone interacting with you!

[ Last edited by  Tuffbod at 28-2-2012 16:10 ]

Tsk Tsk Tsk!!

So..... what ARE you doing on this thread....if not just to get into an idle chat with us??!!

Talk about something out of the clear blue sky, about something inconsequential, even totally nonsense....but we all are doing it.....including YOU!!!

MUAHAHAHA!!!

SEAN So NOT going to take nuthin' lying down!!

OK, I will be the idiot in the bunch.  Probably won't be the last time.

What the hell is the "dreaded pong"?

Man,  SEAj, you had to go THERE!??!

Bro, DB, Pong is when you excitedly pull off her panties only to receive a dreaded whiff of nastiness.  Her pussy stinks!  Stinks bad!  

Pong.

But, like life itself.  Shit happens.  Aint nothing to get worked up about.  Girls get, naturally, yeast infections and other such shit.  Sometimes she stinks.

Anyway, SEAj, the other discussion, about opening lines and such, was far more interesting then Pong.  I regret I indulged you on this one........

Sean I was wondering about this fascination you have about stinky pussies.

Just how many times have you encountered the pong?

Have you ever had a girl that was so hot that, you did her anyway and held your breath?

I remember a girl I met once in a bar, she was a stunner. I took her back to my hotel and discovered that she suffered from the pong. It's difficult to describe the smell, kinda like shit.
But she was so hot I did her anyway. I had to breathe through my mouth the whole time. Which was kinda awkward but still managed to enjoy myself.
Luckily that was my one and only time.

Yes Yes Yes!!

It seems that I HAVE been with an inordinate amount of gals with the dreaded pong - especially of late. Seriously...it seems that there's more and more gals with this condition in China these days!

And as far as keeping doing it when encountering such - welll.... yes, especially when I'm already in flagrante delecto and am already too turned on to turn back!!  And come hell or high water, I do just soldier on and finish off.

On the other hand, if I was just in the process of undressing her and finds out that she's got the Pong - yup- I'd just give her some money and tell her to go.  In any case - whether I did do "it" with her or not, I would also explain the reason and my strong suggestion that she does go and see a doctor as whatever it is that she has is probably something that does need to be medically treated.

I owe these girls at least that much. Sigh...!

SEAJ

I've done it! I've only gone and fooking done it again I have reached the heady heights of CC once again   

And just so it doesn't look like this is total spam! I thought I would put my contribution re pussy pong!
I really hate it when you are getting right in the mood and move down for DATY only to be hit by that god awful whiff, and being too much of a gent to cut the meal short.

I find it odd that when you peer into that black hole, and bearing in mind that according to scientists nothing escapes the gravitational pull from a black hole, not even light! That pussy pong can!

Or am I getting mixed up with the black holes in space?
Either way pretty sure the physics are sound!

p.s. Just so you bros know Happy B/Day to me (only once every 4 years and I am a Dragon too) plus I get to be CC again. How cool is all of that?

[ Last edited by  travelpro at 29-2-2012 06:38 ]

haha while on the subject of stinky pussy, my friend told me this story.   was not there so could not verfify if true or not but funny nonetheless.    he was drunk out of his mind.  went to a bbs in SH.he said he would give 250 (100 more than the usual back then) but he needed to smell the girls first.  he got the mms to line up the girls and he took turns sniffing their pussy.   the funny thing was he caught one of the girls at the end of the line trying to discreetly wipe her pussy with a wet nap!

@ travelpro......uh, well, um, yes I have been around my share of pussy.  I have just been lucky enough never to encounter one that smells like shit, I guess.  And I do like my DATY.  Now I suppose the odds are against me.  Damn it.

I even googled "pussy pong" to see if I could figure out what it was.  Lots of videos (which I can't see cuz I'm behind the Great Firewall) about gals shooting ping pong balls out of their pussies..... for anyone who is interested in that sort of thing.

Anyway, I'm just glad to do my part in keeping this forum lively.  Actually I thought that was gonut's job, but he seems to have fallen off the wagon.

I actually thought the ping pong ball thing was what was meant by PONG - and I must say, I have never seen one of these shows... Its on my list of shit to do. Goid knows, you should see a girl shoot some stuff out of her fanny every now and then to keep a decent perspective on life.

As for the skinky pussy - true fact: Once in Cleveland I screwed this civvie black girl. I was so drunk I didn't even know what I was doing. I woke up the next morning and was like "holy fuck, what is that smell?!" - It was what you gentlemen call PONG. And it was soaked into my futon. Like motor oil. I tried to clean that futon for weeks - no luck. Smelled like old french cheese. I finally had to throw away the mattress. When the guys came to take it away, they were like "what is that smell?" - and I was "Oh, my dog threw up on it"

THAT, my brothers, is serious pong.

As for DATY - I guess some guys are into it, but... that's a lot like work for me. I'll do it with a civvie, because I am a nice guy. But pay a WG to lick her fanny? Hell no. I pay her to not HAVE to do that, and still have her suck my cock. That's basic economics.