never ever sleep with someone who is on your FB or a part of your social circle if your married or have a gf..
that comes back and bites you harder than you could   so its not worth it.  

if i meet some random and she want to add me on FB, i say i dont use it and thats that. use a different mobile which is left in the office under lock and key, no skype no msn no nothing! you have to think like a detective when your fooling around. met a bird in Singapore, she was 18 worked at a club, cute as fuck! feeding me drinks and ended up banging her in the toilets. wanted my number, gave my other phone number, wanted skype, said i dont use that or fb.im ol'skool (which worked)

always be vigilant bros.. never for a second let your judgement fool you when thinking with your LB. Always plan
ahead and you'll be pounding away a happy camper!

hi there , i am always in mong kok but i don't want to always go to LKF , sometime i like to go outside for just one hour or more , but i can't find a bar i mean a simple bar  , with chair and some music to enjoy my beer ,if anyone know one in the area i will be verry happy to hear about it

actually there is 2 bar in portland street , near kfc i supose its some kind of hostess bar , because there is a lot of girl picture in the entrance but i actually never been inside , if anyone can share what i can find inside those i would be interested too

i'll keep in mind that porn is not sex
the funniest thing that i think about masturbating is that. i start as early as a kid in grade 3.
no one told me how to masturbate yet. but i know that shaking my own LB feels good
from that day onward. i actually masturbate once a day on daily basis

thanks everyone for the advise
i'll make sure i am healthy and normal before i go to HK

I must say davidlong is right about what he said. It's best to do something that doesn't leave any trace at all if possible. FB, Skype, MSN, phones....whatever that could leave a trace and can be traced! So it's better not to give them out even if you have them...

With the tech advancement nowadays, you wouldn't know what can be done with a phone number. Like how you can be tracked. Some girls nowadays keep score pretty much like how we bros does it... all the girls we managed to score and these girls may keep record of the guys they "scored" with too.

I learnt the lesson the hard way and it's really important and pays to be careful, I mean really very careful. Women have a way to find out what they want to know without we even realized that they are actually "interrogating" us. They use their head more than us, we use our LB to think half the time...didn't want to admit to that but sadly it's true for my case at least...

[ Last edited by  Tuffbod at 28-11-2011 12:04 ]

ICIM... hahahaha  gonuts hit the right spot...I have a wife, so not so bad for me. When I wanted to jack-off, I have helping hands....HAHAHAHA....

I found that a lot of the girls tend to use yahoo messenger.  For some reason it is pretty popular with them.  I have never had a yahoo messenger account before, so it was pretty easy for me to set up an anonymous yahoo account.  The app on the cell phone can be deleted/reinstalled at will, with all the contact info stored in the cloud.  It also has voice and video chat capabilities, so you have everything all tied up in one neat easy to scrub package.

This has worked out really well, as I have the messenger, but also an anon email address for registering on sites that I don't want co-mingled with the rest of my life.  Such as this one.

The one thing that scares me with all these things is the integration with social media.  I constantly have to remember NOT to click the connect to facebook icon inside yahoo.  If I do, I think that my cookies will do me in!

Hi gonuts, looks like you really started early. In my case, as far as I can remember I "accidentally" had my first climax when I was like 5-6 years old. It happened one day while I was climbing a metal pole in the playground. As I needed to clamp the pole between my thighs while climbing, that somehow has caused my LB to rub against it while doing so. I remember there was a very satisfying sensation coming from my LB that spread through my whole body...it was so intense that I can still remember it till today!

I didn't even know what hit me then and at that time didn't even know anything about masturbation (still very innocent then). Tried to recreate that feeling by climbing the poles again after that but couldn't get it...after trying it for a few days without success, I gave up. Only learnt about masturbation a few years later...

LOL! Nice way to learn. Seems like you had the instinct on how to please yourself really early in your childhood Gonuts!

@Tuffbod: Seriously? 5-6 years old? Whoa, I had my first ejaculation when I was 13-14. I was doing it on my bed. It was a double decked bed. It was late at night, and I was jacking off. My roommate often asked me to stop moving and go to bed

Actually there was no ejaculation, just had the nice feeling and sensation that I felt. I thought I peed in my pants but turns out nothing but just the nice feeling. I think if I ejaculated then, I might have freaked out!   

I didn't learn more about the birds and the bees until a few years later when I stumbled upon my dad's collection of adult magazines. I think I was about 12 when that happened and I also had a few older teenager friends then and learnt more about it from them. Only then I realized why boys have LB and girls have pussy...suddenly it all become clear and made sense!

I probably had my first salami slapping when I was about 12-13. I still remember my mom yelling at me for spending too much time in the bathroom every time when I bathed after my first  time...

Yazoo, thanks for the tips on Yahoo Messenger. I still try to steer clear of having anything that could leave any trace at all...some how, there could be a time that we will still make mistakes even however careful we could be.

What I didn't tell you guys is my wife now actually keeps track of my ex-gf's activities on the internet by going through her blogs and stuff...I didn't know when but my wife learnt to hack and can be really methodical when she wants to find out something. She will show me the ex-gf's pictures from her blog from time to time just to remind me she has her eyes on me...anyway, now we will have a good laugh about it as my ex now is fat and still single. Wifey is happy to know she won and I can lay to rest that I will not go down the wrong path anymore...at least not with this ex-gf...

Good idea, Mr SEAJ, but I wonder how many brothers would like to write about their erection problems, and how many others want to read about these problems here.

Tolstoy said, happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way. All men are unique, and I guess every "dirty old man" has problems of his own. I said this because I had a surreal experience last week - once I have more time I promise to write a report about it. Long story short, I went to a massage place. On seeing me, the landlady called in a young girl. She obviously thought men of our age all fancied really young girl. I guess many older men like fucking teenagers. What she couldn't have foreseen, was that the girl looked just like my own daughter - same age, same appearance, even the same university! My dick immediately shrank to the size of a pea...

This story indicates two things: one, old men tend to be stereotyped. Two, meeting your daughter's classmate is definitely a possibility for guys of my age. These factors, combined with the impotence thing, definitely make our punting more "complicated" than you guys.

Writing about impotence in a forum about punting is like writing about anorexia in a gourmet discussion group. I may be the first one here! But I sincerely thank you, SEAJ, for caring about our demographic enough to suggest this.

[ Last edited by  JosefK at 28-11-2011 14:32 ]

lol, you are using us as an excuse as to why you didnt shag ur ex.

Our advice didn't brainwash or convince you to not to shag your ex. Our advice only brought you to the decision line but not over it.

You said it yourself: your ex doesn't look hot/sexy anymore. your ex's face cannot get your lb hard anymore which goes to prove you should not fear ever straying with her in the future (unless she gets a face lift ).

I had a similar experience myself when I had to meet with ex about some biz proposal. I thought about our past sexual activities which did make me a bit guilty as I do have a SO. But I have to admit once I saw how she has aged since our relationship, all amoral thoughts instantly vanished forever which made the biz meeting easy to carry out.

Thank god we are guys as guys definitely look better as we get older.

Doghead... you are quite right about the fact that men seems to get better with age. But sometimes there are exceptions too when it comes to women. It's good that men are more visually stimulated creatures compared to women...otherwise I'd supposed there will be more cases of shagging old flames!

Btw, talking about old..have any bros here have had experience with an older women when you guys were younger?

I had a fling once with an older women when I just started working in my early 20s (I was 22 then)...it was good but thinking back, I actually think I wasted that opportunity for not fully utilizing the chances and every moment that I could've shagged her!

She was a Manager in the sister company where I worked as a Junior Buyer then. I was actually in a different company but since it's under the same corporation, we are all housed in the same building but different sections. She was a stunning woman who was full of confidence...still she was only in her late 20s when the escapade we had took place. I can still remember her perky breasts (they were not too big, B cup) but her nips are nicely pinkish colored as her skin is quite fair. She is ethnic Chinese btw... But her butt is to die for, round and perky with really smooth skin. I especially remember the doggy we had (which was her favorite position), both standing and on all fours. She liked it very much when I pound her hard, really hard and fast from behind! She had this really juicy and wet mount which seemed perpetually ready for action, not to mention the tightness that grips my LB when I thrust it in. I was younger then and was full of energy. The problem is I couldn't hold it in long enough each time to keep on pounding...always blowing my load too fast...

I actually can't really remember how we hit it off and why she even picked me, she was quite petite and she told me she likes big and well-built good-looking men (maybe I fitted the criteria). I knew she already had a bf at that time and if not mistaken she was like 6-7 years older than me. She did all the leading and all the moves that leads me to at least 4 sexual encounters with her. Once in a motel, once at her friend's place and twice in her office over the weekend under the pretense of having to work over-time. I can still remember vividly the first time a girl taking my load in her mouth and actually swallowed it all...and that took place in her office with me sitting on her chair and she kneeled in front.         I have had a couple of girls before who took my loads in their mouth before but non swallowed and when this lady did that...I was blown away!   

But still, I think I didn't do my best to make full use of all those opportunities then as the sessions were rather short (as her boyfriend checks on her quite often) and I was rather inexperienced ...if this happens to me now, it will be completely different for sure.  

She ended the escapade soon enough and I learnt she was actually in preparation to get married with her bf when she "used" me. I guess maybe she was looking for some ways to release some stress and pre-wedding jitters by using me...but good learning experience for me nonetheless. I was actually starting to fall in love (more like loving to shag her) with her after the 3rd encounter... After she got married, I tried to get her for more, but she just shrugged me off...have to admit I was kinda sad...

Any other bros have similar experience and would like to share?  I think if it could happen to me, there will be many more similar experiences out there. One thing which I am not sure why or how, I seem to attract older women. Counting this lady, I had and ex-gf who is 2 years older and my wife is 3 years older. There was another lady who was 8 years older but also hot as hell, but unfortunately nothing happened with her even though the sexual tension with her was unbelievably high! I knew she wanted me, but she was too scared to go all the way... it was one of those big catch that got away...

[ Last edited by  Tuffbod at 29-11-2011 12:28 ]

Good story, Bro.  I got one ----

When I was 19 there was 30-year-old widow-MILF across the street.  She was cool and kinda joined our circle.  We would all go out as a gang to the bars to watch the bands.  We got hammered one nite, she drove me home ---- except I never made it home.  Mmmmmm.  Stayed in her bed.  One of her friends was the babysitter - a very weird moment walking in, seeing her, then just breezing upstairs.  

For the next 2 or so months I screwed her every chance I could and indeed she taught me how to control my desire, and how to DATY properly.  She was a great coach!

Melissa.  Still remember her clearly!  She made great pork-chops too!!

Wander...good for you too! Somehow learning from older women is not bad at all. Especially when they are hot and full of confidence. I for one doesn't mind and actually enjoys a women who knows how to lead and ask for what they want and enjoys...that all makes the whole experience more satisfying then fumbling about when it matters most!

[ Last edited by  Tuffbod at 29-11-2011 09:38 ]

hmmm... talking about leading.
what should i do if i am not so familiar with leading the girl.
my first time is done with a WG. i feel so nervous and have her lead, but i feel not satisfying because i can't ejaculate.

i feel that man should lead the girl. but i have no experience on that.
mind sharing how to lead girl ???

if possible. i would like to know how to turn on the girl's mood even though they are WG.
i know that WG are tired of doing sex everyday, and it is difficult to get them turn on

A couple days of me having to do what needs to be doin' and I come back here to see this thread speeding along!!! Thanks guys - not only for keeping this thread alive - but to do so with a variety of very interesting topics. Thanks and Kudos!

First, the thread put up by Tuffbod on the older women of our lives - compelling reading and should be a very interesting thread for y'all to participate in:
Lessons from older (MILF), more experienced but hot women!
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... mp;extra=#pid394363

Second - thanks to Gonuts in sharing his foibles .... and to take all this horsing around in such good humour!  Good on ya gonuts - you're really gonna go nuts once you've mastered the art of truly enjoying the rhapsody of sex with ALL SORTS OF LADIES!! Go Go Go Gonuts!
Ps edit, after reading your latest posting: If you want to hear my POV and of course, only if so - then please consider to STOP going to Hookers. You're at the stage/age in life where you should instead be wasting your time, effort and money on pursuing Civvies i/o whoring. Take all your sweet innocence and naivete about sex to concentrate on getting into the pants of just regular girls.  Don't worry about failures along the way - ALL OF US have experienced failures w/civvies, it's part of the learning curve - for when you eventually do get into a gal's pants, then I can pretty well guarantee you that you ain't gonna suffer from non-ejaculation; your worry would then be from PREMATURE ejaculation!!  WG's are just too easy and thus your lack of interest and subsequent non-ejaculation. (plus of course your continual whacking-off!!)

Third in reply to JosefK's post #2811 - what I am envisioning is more of an Idle chat thread but with the topic of sex for seniors as its main tenor.  OK, yes, erectile dysfunction is probably gonna be one topic foremost on a lot of senior's mind - but the very fact that they're still on here MUST PROVE that there is still the Joy of sex even in advanced age. On top of that, there is nowadays all sorts of drugs, treatments, holistic approach etc that aids seniors to still attain a very satisfactory sex life.   

A thread devoted just to these ED matters would most probably be quite boring and irrelevant for most of the younger members here. But if such a thread covers the whole gamut of Senior sexuality, it should even bring participation from the younger members - all too cognizant of the fact that sooner or later, we all are gonna be old too!!

After all, most guys here (including and foremost, MOI!) look to this board to find out more about other's experiences and words of wisdom; and what could be more wise and made up of a rich tapestry of experiences than the words of a more senior person?? I'll try to also contribute some,(probably by first C+P'ing the stories from my uncle about Hong Kong in the older days etc) but I'm very sure that such a thread would have lots of followers/contributors all by itself!  So I'd encourage you to GO FOR IT JosefK!!

To MKK, doghead, Tiffbod, Frenchexpat, davidlong discussing infidelity with an Ex - I'd like to just add that there is usually a reason why an ex has become an ex; valid and compelling reasons for you to have abandoned her (or she abandoning you). In any case though, women are way more sneakier and usually have a much longer memory than us guys.

Remember that "hell hath no fury as a woman scorned" and most of us guys, I'd opine, never even figure out what it is that actually pissed off gals, PLUS the fact that any break-up usually causes rancour.  NOT smart to revisit a past that's over - for you never know what they've got up their sleeves. And in MKK's specific instance -not only is there a good chance you've pissed your ex off in the past, you also told us that her MOM's also PO'd at you!!  Man - one angry gal to handle is already bad enough - you're taking on TWO??!

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 29-11-2011 14:23 ]

Ahhh ex gf, tell me about it. The weirdest one I had was a short term one (stayed 3 month with her and she was hot!), she was a swinger (a true one) and after one month she told me "hey lets go to this swinger club together". Well you wont beleive me but I said no thanks. At that time I was in the monogamy thing and it just didnt really feel right to see other dudes banging my gf (even though I could have accomodated easilythe other side of the deal, banging other chicks!). So we stayed together 2 more months and she just couldnt stand being with one guy (even though we used to do it all the freaking time) so we decided we would be better separated (from my end I got bored of her, she was hot in bed but had no brains).

The link with the previous story? Here it comes: Well she turned out to be nuts, told her mom I wanted to make her pregnant and the hysterical mom called me several times to call me names... But given she told me she was a swinger, I used condoms for 3 months (turned out quite expensive though!) so no risks of pregnancy.... From me at least! Quite an interesting (anthropologically speaking) experience. After that, I regretted not going to a swinger club to bang other girls! Stupid me

[ Last edited by  Frenchexpat at 29-11-2011 14:10 ]

I hate this sort of thing.  My ex-gf used to monitor my Facebook page on a regular basis.  She was always suspicious and jealous.  The ex-gf would view the page of every female friend I had then some time later start asking me questions about that girl like how I knew them, how close I was to them and most importantly, whether I thought they were pretty.  This included my sisters and cousins because at the time she hadn't met my family yet.

Eventually I got quite annoyed with her spying and told her that what she was doing was incredibly weird.  She replied that all women check up on their boyfriend's/husband's ex-girlfriends.  I can understand if I had cheated on her or such but I never did and never gave any impression of it.  I asked my close female friends if they ever did the same but none of them did.  Right up to the day that we broke up the ex-gf maintained that her actions were perfectly normal.

The ex-gf also regularly checked the call and sms history on my phone.  I used to work at a company with a lot of women so I made a lot of female friends and the ex-gf always questioned me whenever they called.  It was like something out of a Hong Kong romantic comedy/drama movie with all it's bad advice!

Don't know...perhaps am just a bit old fashioned.

I've had sort of orgies whilst in University - when a bunch of us would get together, party and it would end up with us doing our individual gals in a darkened communal room etc. All tame stuff when compared to a full blown orgy when there'd be round robbin-ing of guys/gals in all sorts of combination whilst we all just stuck to our own gals

Well, a couple years ago I decided that I wanted to arrange for a full blown orgy with a couple of my buds and we went and got us 4 gals for the 3 of us (one for spare - right?) and had it all worked out that we were gonna be doing just about anything and that they're expected to take us one and all!!  So, all prepped up, we took them back to my spa room at the Clipper hotel in Chang Ping and it started all great, with us all piling into the extra large round bath tub and huge showers there whilst drinking, carousing and just having a good time all nekkid and bubbled up!

Then came the "Main course" and off we all dried up and jumped onto the King size bed there and that's when I KNEW that I just ain't made for orgies; for then I started hearing the grunting and wheezing and then saw my bud's rolls of fat slapping against his gal and the sweat pouring out...and the smell!!

OHMIGAWD - the smell - not only was the profuse sweating from a couple other grunting guys disgusting,  I was then with both of a gal's legs on my shoulders when I started smelling the PONG from her nookie....and the extra gal was then bitchin' about all the smell too! And meanwhile one of my buds started grunting extra loud and had that contorted look on his face and I just couldn't stand it.  I mean a gal in orgasm is a beauty to behold, but a guy coming?? YUCK!! DOUBLE YUCK!!

It was a disaster and my other friend and I just barely had our orgams before we all jumped off to the showers and...........

So.... no more orgies for me for sure!!

And BTW - tuffbod just started a great thread:

Lessons from older (MILF), more experienced but hot women!
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... 5306&highlight=

check it out and tell us YOUR experience with older women!! What a topic! LOL

SEAJ