while we are on the topic, I just watched "The Change Up" (2011) last night. good movie I reckon, some softcore tits, but the whole story of how a family guy missing a bachelor life, and a bachelor who envy a family life switched and realize they are what they are. pretty decent movie. watch it

which I think also has relevance here.

LOL! No, I had to go back to Indonesia. She doesn't want to come with me so we broke up. Simple as that. She's a year older than me, and of HK background. Gotta love HK women LOL!

Only the report section has a limit of one picture per report.  My chinese is not very good so I used google translate to read the thread.  Their reason for the change was to prevent fake report ads posted in the forum.  The admins on the chinese forum will be deleting any fake report ads and removing the associated accounts.  Before the change, it was obvious which report was in fact an ad.  I just went though all the new reports since yesterday and it is not easy to tell the difference between and ad and a real report.  It seems to me the change was to protect the ad revenue generated from the fake report ads.

Does this 1 picture restriction also apply to those reports in the "Groups" section that they have over there? - or only for those reports that is in the general section?

They've always got some strange going-ons over the Chinese side IMHO!
LOL
SEAJ

I am all for protecting the WG's future.   Sadly, there is no true delete on the internet but we can make it more difficult to find outdated material.  I don't understand why the old reports are still accessible.  After a certain period of time, the reports should be deleted.

But its not only a girl's FUTURE that we need to think of; those girls at/from countries where the laws/social mores are more conservative, they could actually get in immediate and real trouble with the law or even the "moral police" - who have been known to actually physically attack WG's.

I've also read about a Thai gal committing suicide after her parents was shown an indecent picture of her by the village chief's son.  Nah....too many bad things can happen from us posting up clearly identifiable pictures that I now try to think twice before putting up any pictures.

As far as old reports are concerned - deleting them wouldn't do much good as once a picture is out on the internet, it STAYS on the internet in some form/way or another. And I think the owners of this site definitely wants to retain as much "content" as possible.

SEAJ

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I can see the angle, but I don't ENTIRELY agree with that.

For one thing, I always ask the girls if it's okay I take their pics. Doubly so if it's naughty pics/videos that I intend to take. It's ALWAYS up to the girl. I always make sure it's okay with the girl first. I will ask straight up and wait for a response. Okay, if I get an unfavourable one I might try again, but if the girl insists on 'no', then I will accept the girl's choice. I might try to persuade them into it with offers of tips or complimenting their looks etc, but in the end, it's the girl's choice regardless of how naive she is.

Secondly, at least they get paid for it! I tip girls that offer me good service and/or let me take naughty pics/videos. Yes, I know there's the whole "You were a WHAT in the past?" angle to it, but at least they've been paid for it -- it's little compensation, which is better than no compensation! Think about when a civvie's sex tape is released. What does the (in most cases) girl get from it?

Again, from a civvie vs HG/WG point of view, we are posting on forums that we THINK are at least somewhat secure (due to RA etc). Of course, there are always douchebags out there but the chances of it spreading like wildfire like a normal civvie sextape is low because of the trusted RA system.

And, again, just to point out - it's UP TO THE GIRL.

Nah...as per what I said in my comment when rating, I don't expect that my POV is the only one that matters; you and others for sure have your own and are of course entitled to them.

But I would like to point out that the relative ease with which guys get "permission" to take photos in Hong Kong is PROBABLY a result of these gals being told totally wrong/at least misleading information about the situation i.e. that their pictures will definitely NOT be available in China - which is an out and out lie. Yes, naive and gullible these gals - but they come out here with the sole aim of making a tidy sum, probably feel out of their depths when first arriving here - then get "instructed" by their handler (who's only motive is to be able to sell her as many times as he can during her stay here) to allow pictures. Well, you get the picture...!

I've also read/joined quite a few discussions on this matter on this board as well as others - and some of the bad/heart wrenching stories as to what actually happened when a gal's picture does get "discovered." All that has shaped my own approach as to how I post up my pictures.

And yes - I DO appreciate the sensitivities and wisdom shown by our members/mods to have come up with this rule on our board that all "face" pictures must be at least RA30; goes a long way towards protecting the girls. Kudos!

SEAJ

Hmm will have another trip in spring...  ...Will maybe RA50 it if a full on face shot, RA30 for a more indirect shot.  If it's someone that has their face in the db though and it is not photoshopped all to hell, then there's not really any point.  Pics already are out.

Changing the subject a bit... I just noticed the Macau link in the db page.  Did that just appear or am I really unobservant?  But no prices.  I was wondering if anyone has any experience with booking these girls?

Wow, I've been gone these couple months and I'm surprised this thread is still going.  Good job SEAJ!  I might be making another Asia trip early next year, so I'll be visiting the forums again more often.   I notice that a lot of the reviews are from ladies by DK.  What happened to James Bond?

Err... no...!!

That is precisely my point actually.  You see, the programmers of the DB forum pages have designed it whereby the DB pages are NOT available from China - and when I'm in China, I only very rarely can get these DB pages via proxy/VPN - but just going on line and trying to get the DB pages - NOT POSSIBLE.

This is a fact and this is what the handler tell the girls - what they don't tell the girls is that the FORUM pages (our English side as well as the Chinese side) is nowadays available just by going on line (in years past, the Chinese Great Wall had blocked all sex sites including this one - but not any longer).

So... Pics are NOT already out - unless one of us mongers put up her pictures on the forum pages.

And about your question on the Macau site - that's been there for at least a few months and if you RTFF, you will see a few reports on it. Why dontcha go though some of these threads and report back to us what you learned.

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Hmmmm... Yee of little faith!! Hey, the guys here regularly come back and keep it all nicely lively and entertaining!!  So why wouldn't this thread still be here??

I've got very little to do with keeping it up alive - just responding to queries if nobody else wud answer that's all - its the guys who participate here that has made this the 2nd longest thread on this forum - and all Props/Kudos goes to all of them!

And what is it that you've been up to past few months?  Don't tell me that you'd been a good li'l boy all this time!! So....where's your reports??!!  LOL

And as far as JB is concerned, I THINK that he got into a bit of a pickle and has not surfaced for the past few months. DK, CK etc are I BELIEVE his splinter groups who has taken up the slack.

SEAJ

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I see. Thanks for the updates. I'm been in the western hemisphere so been participating in the forums for those sites. I suppose I can post done TRs in the international thread but none of them have pictures so I feel they are not up to par with what others post..

Understood. However, like I said, it is down to the girl. Regardless of 'ease of access' issues, the smart ones obviously say 'no'.

Before I forget, I just wanted to say a great big Hi to George; And apologize for catching you off guard.

Anyway was at the Hui Mei KTV just now.

AGES since I've been there but the place really has not changed all these years.

Terrible song selection, older rooms, and worse of all, the gals are still all sub-par!

But they now got the nerve to dare to charge 2-6-9 and 3-7-10 for the girls!

How do these places justify this kind of charges? But then again, the girls themselves told me that if they didn't up the rates, they wouldn't have come over to work there.

So what I was worried about has actually come true; that the competiton for girls amongst the KTV operators is now forcing them to up the girl rates across the board.

We really need the European Union to crumble. Then we'll see if ANY of these KTV's is going to be able to keep their doors open!

LOL.

SEAJ

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Ok, but if you want to be sure she really agrees to it , maybe it's better to ask her explicitly if she allows you to up load her photos on internet to share them . Ok that's her choice, and her fault if she's dumb, but I guess that what  SEAJ means is that if something terrible happens to her, you will have your part of responsibility in it, even if she allowed you. If you dont have problem to sleep knowing that, it's good for you. Personally, I am fine with it, it's so far from us, and we don't even know them.

Seaj, I do think we just have excuses to try to clear our responsibility, but stick to your principles if you want, I will continue taking face pictures, I am not as right as you, unfortunately !

EDIT : Deleted some dumb lines from me...

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I think most people when they take pictures, they get permission to take it, but no explicit permission to upload it. Most of the times there is no implied permission unless the person is aware these pictures often are taken to be uploaded to sites like 141 forums. The pictures in the DB will cease to be shown after the ad is taken down.

SEAJ, I understand that the db is inaccessible from China and the forum is, hence the need for RA.  But this setup has a huge gaping hole.

Consider the scenario:  Bro writes a report of a HG, includes a link from the db.  All is cool.  Girl goes back to her civ life, db pic comes down (it was never accessible to her family) and she lives happily ever after.

But wait.  Some helpful soul has copied the db pic into the report.  He has even stated his reasons.  "db pics are not permanent, so I have copied these ones here for posterity.  I encourage others to do the same".  No RA are put on the pics.

So now we have a permanent image of the girl, accessible in China, available forever, with no RA.

This kind of defeats the whole purpose of RA don't you think? Maybe we should be putting both a link to the db for RA challenged people such as myself in addition to an RA30 copy of the db photo.

It's a guy taking an action photo/video of a girl. Where exactly does she think it's going to go?

Thanks y'all for expressing your opinion on the posting up of pictures. Each and everyone of us have valid reasoning and train of thought on this subject - and it's good that others could read and make up their own mind as to their own approach to pictures and posting etc.

And here's my own bold-faced hypocrisy: - even though I would only put up my own well masked/blurred pictures, I DO enjoy looking at full face pictures that others have put up!!  Ouch - truly hypocritical and Yes, TERRIBLE of me, but hey - what can I do about it??  

And yes, I would even go ahead and give more K's when I see pictures on a report!!
But hey - I DO appreciate/love looking at pixs!!

I guess guys will be guys. LMAO!

SEAJ

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