I realise that this is a mongering site, but I also realise that we cant just be humping all day and night long - even though some of us would like to

Coming to china quite a lot, and having a bunch of veggie friends, I usually end up showing them the markets as this seems to be of prime interest to them. Over the past 7 years I have seen a lot of them and thought I would share some insights.

Shanghai - still the best one IMO, the quality of the fakes is much higher than in Beijing, and of course there is the FS MS on the 6th Floor. see report for that here http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... hai%2BFake%2Bmarket

In Beijing there are 2 markets that I have frequented over the years, Yashow Clothing Market and Silk Street.

YaShow has the better quality, and the cheaper prices. While frequented by tourists there are only 1 or 2 busses offloading passangers. half hour Massage costs 40 RMB there, as opposed to the 98 rmb at Slik Street. Silk is a tourist trap the likes I have not seen before - there were at least 20 busses offloading passangers, and even had Tourguides with the mandatory flag taking the groups through the 5 floors

I checked the watches, shoes, clothing and wallets/bags and the prices being bandied about are double of Yashow. was looking at some fake VANS sneakers and the work was appalling. listening to the tourists getting royally done over by the well trained sales people made me cringe.

So if you have a bit of time on your hands and have not been there before - take a look, but be vary careful of what you buy there - the days of A grade watches with sapphire glass are mostly gone unless you are in Shanghai.

When you are back in GZ I'll show you the fake markets since there is so little mongering.  I also know the ones in Zhuhai, but it's a much smaller supply.

Looking forward to it, though as we discussed, I think Macau or DG will definitly be a part of that itinerary

anyone know where in SZ or Guangzhou I can get hacked software? Hong Kong police chased the sellers out of 298 Computer and Sham Sui Po several years ago and my old version of Windows XP is due for an upgrade to Windows 7 or 8.

Keep on mongering and using hacked software

Have you tried using a torrent site? my preference is Kick Ass Torrents www.kickass.to They have software as well as films etc. all you need is a bit torrent program that are free to downlaod off the net. I use Utorrents. Hope that helps.

I have not found the software in the fake markets to be completely reliable, though I have only ever purchased the Rosetta Stone language cd's but they are incomplete. supposed to be 5 cd's in the box, and they usually only have one or 2

I am very much aware of the torrent sites as I frequently download movies.

from my limited experience when trying to download software, one has to download an .iso file and then burn it to a disk something which I am not always technically capable of doing . It's much easier just to buy a disc which is a knockoff and you put it into my computer and simply hit “install”.

Thanks

Keep on mongering