I accept your argument about having a WG who has ten clients a day.
So you are selective about your clients and number of clients per day. Good for you.

Why would you not work a normal nine to five job and simply join a swingers club???

That way you can satisfy your sex drive and hey you don't need to worry about cash transactions.

Food for thought baby.

Obe

I did try a swingers club a few times it was a drag really not clean at all ...just Seems that asking for $ gets the right guy.. I have meet a few guys that started as clients now I see on a personal level. but not enough for my needs

and you don't think you're a banana ?

I have no idea nor do I have the inclination to find out what your issues are ... you know what they are if you're brave enough to admit it to yourself
anyway, we are what we are so I don't hold anything against you (nor will I hold anything behind you)

Being local doesn't make you special or high-class.

The whole "HK girl, I'm better than everyone bitchy attitude" is getting old..
no different than some of the local WGs at the walk-ups..
bad attitude, high prices.

Dime a dozen. Nothing special.

[ Last edited by  lijianhua at 19-2-2013 00:02 ]

My god! Can't believe I've only just come across this thread...

Miss Pumpkin, you sound like a nightmare! Right from your first post on this thread your attitude has been surreal. Are you sure there is no room for constructive talk at all? No possibility of making friends and potential clients here?

Anyway, you must be very aware that this thread is not doing your business any favours...

Up to a point, kudos to Miss Pumpkin for wanting to establish her credentials and clarify the situation. If only she'd stopped there.

The racism is as unfortunate when it comes from her as it is when it occasionally comes from a brother.

And her feistiness is all well and good, but if perceived insults/mistakes lead her to the kind of vindictive and unpredictable escalations we've seen here, I'll stay far away. Plenty of "fish in the sea" that will never cause a headache.

Gherkin

[ Last edited by  ggherkin at 18-2-2013 12:01 ]

The only difference between the real twice and his avatar that he's photoshopped his johnny to fit it in the pic ....

You sound slightly unstable - a real turnon for those seeking the 50 shades of crazy. Seriously though, you sound like an absolute  nightmare and an outright pain to deal with.  That post did you a disservice. Most punters are respectful, but your attitude doesn't warrant any respect. Next!

[ Last edited by  Thai-delight at 19-2-2013 05:02 ]

so afraid of getting -1 acceptance or karma!!! lets see if it happens! o well, i'll post anyway...

i agree with many of the bros here; your attitude seems less than pleasant. i have had some less than good experiences with the skill level of some WGs, but i ended up giving them a good review here because of their sweet attitude! believe it or not, GFE is something a lot of these guys go for! you are hot. ive seen your photos on CL and i'd love to have a tumble with you, but considering the price and the somewhat aggressive attitude you have had here(insulting potential clients isnt a good thing), i think i'll pass for now.

if you really are into it because of the sex and not the $, then i can certainly help you out, but i sincerely doubt you would want to accept a FWB situation over a get paid situation . best of luck to you, i hope you find what youre looking for. my parting words/advice to you are to try and be more sweet towards the bros on here. they can make you rich and they can give you great sex too!


(please be kind to my acceptance/karma! i tried to play nice and respectful!)

I didn't think that my first post would be on this thread, but (as Ron Burgundy would say) that escalated quickly!

I met misspumpkin sometime when I first moved to HK, around 2 years ago. She was altogether pleasant and while she's definitely expensive compared to most WG's, in my books she was worth every penny. Tried meeting a few times after, but the timings just didn't work and my phone number changed. I have to say, in person she is most definitely not the racist and bigoted nutjob she appears to be in this thread. Or atleast she wasn't two years ago.

Misspumpkin, it's one thing to defend yourself, you have every right to do that. However, it's quite another to go off on a racist rant. I quite honestly don't care why you choose to do what you do, that's your choice. But when I (or any one of the bros on this forum) engage your services, we want only one thing. We have to deal with enough emotional baggage from our wives/girlfriends/significant others, the last thing we need is to deal with yours (and boy, you seem to have a ton).

So if you rate , compare , or put down a working girl then your  a BRO .
If a working girl rates , compares or puts down a punter she's a nut job???

Interesting

[ Last edited by  misspumpkin at 19-2-2013 16:54 ]

<Flamesuit On> ... some thoughts to the bros ...

We hardly ever get an opportunity to chat with the girls we meet with - hardly ever see a girl posting here, especially not so outspoken and straightforward, and in fluent English too

and you react by nitpicking and criticising???  

cmon guys, be more of a gentleman, and you might get a better response!!  Seriously ... I'm not surprised of her attitude to this forum, given the reception she's getting.  

No I'm not defending her attitude, but I'm not attacking it either.  It is what it is.  Nor am I suggesting you should like it - some will, some won't.  But I do see it as what it is: raw, unedited, and honest.  

Nor do I see any need to go on being critical about points that have been addressed.  

And:
Miss P, welcome!!

I don't have to agree with anyone to appreciate your contribution here, I hope you stay as a correspondent.  I feel that having your voice can add value to the forum, and can support a profession which - as you point out - is both ancient and mutually beneficial.  

By the way: do quit it with the -1 A ... that's frowned on from all members!  You want to run with the boys, you are most welcome, please respect this is a boys' room, and has boys' conduct!  Yes, boys have egos, you already knew that, and if you know boys you also know in a boys' room it is more important to fit in than to be special.  Use your words to chastise and correct, by all means, use your intellect and oratory to convince and convey.  But you can get more credit by exercising restraint than you do by exercising your rights to neg people's hard-earned points!!  Childish?  Yes, on all sides

Miss pumpkin,

I also would like to welcome you to the forum.

The thing which hit my nerve with your posts was the racist undertone towards Chinese, Pakistani and Middle Eastern gentlemen. There is no place for racism in this forum.

I don't think anyone called you a nut job because you rate and compare people you have encounters with.

I am sure you would have some funny stories which you could share with us.

Like I said nothing personal against you or your line of work but no more racist comments.

Obe

I love this thread, and thank you Miss Pumpkin for coming on.

I don't actually mind the racist attitude in this case, because it is already a well established fact among many WG, and I would like to know more as to why.  I always assumed (or perhaps a WG once told me) that it was more of a personal hygine issue for the Pakistani and Middle Eastern gents.  The complaint about Chinese has always been rudeness.  So I guess I have learned something here.

I am however confused Miss Pumpkin...  You said you have made a few exceptions, and they have been very nice.  So how, exactly, do you know the average Pakistani or Middle Eastern customer is violent?  Past experience or shared stories?  I have never heard that beore.

While I agree with your post on the whole, I gotta say that just because Miss P is a WG, regardless of how infrequent an occurrence that is on here, shouldn't mean that I ought to treat her posts with special gloves. I'm just being raw, unedited, and honest too!

miss p,

id also like to welcome you to the forum. i hope you wont assume all of us at 141 are assholes, because we're not. the vast majority of us like a good working relationship with the young ladies we visit and i will speak for most, if not all, of the guys on this forum and say we are very glad to have you here! i hope we havent gotten off on the wrong foot! we want to enjoy the services of any WGs we visit and treat them with respect. in return we expect the same. your presence here could get you a lot of new customers and some really fun sex partners to boot, not to mention be interesting and informative to all the fellas here.

hope to keep hearing from you on the forum!

Looking at all the posts in this thread I don't think anyone has been an asshole nor has anyone disrespected Ms P save me calling her a banana which could be interpreated as name calling by some ...

Ms P came here to tell us she 'never' message her clients or potential clients after seeing posts that here that says otherwise ... which resulted in discussions between bros and Ms P ... in post #27 Ms P gave a full account of herself and her attitude including her interpretation of solicted & unsolicited messages she send or does not send out.

All I see here is the difference if interpretation of 'messages' and 'first contact' between bros and Ms P !

There have not been any disrespect to Ms P in proportion to the way she started talking to us here

There are those who have mentioned about her opportunity to advertise herself by participating in this forum ... I need to say this ... if Ms P's purpose (now and in the future) is to advertise herself, the mods in this forum will look at this harshly even though there is a fine line between conversation and advertising.

As for me calling her a banana ... I have read and reread what she wrote in post #27 and I make no apologies ... Ms P  is a banana !  But like any reasonable human being, we have our preferences, likes and dislikes ... I'm just calling a horse a horse, no more no less.

[ Last edited by  twiceAweek at 20-2-2013 06:23 ]

No you're not

you're calling a girl a banana

and (sorry if I'm dense and missing something obvious) I don't see why, and I don't see how it is supposed to lead to a harmonious exchange

I have also seen misspumpkin's ads on CL and have been interested, admittedly more in who she is as a person than what she offers.

Her postings are very unusual in several ways
- Her postings are always in LARGE CAPS, such as "LOVE PUMPKIN LOVE - w4m - 22".
- She includes many many high res pictures in each posting.
- It seems she posts very frequently on CL.

I've not contacted her before and have not heard from her until today on this forum. Admittedly I am intrigued.

Based on her responses and what I see on CL, I just wanted to make two points.

1. Show Respect, Get Respect

I agree with this whole heartedly. And there are many people who disrespect others, let alone, women, let alone prostitutes. I think a good part of this has to do with insecurity in men, manifesting in either possessiveness, or in rejection and disrespect of 'promiscuous' women. I sense misspumpkin's intense dislike for many kinds of men, in particular those of certain ethnicities, originated in some verbal or physical disrespect from these men. It could have been her dad, her clients.

I would venture to guess it was her family that first made her feel rejected and disrespected. Perhaps it was her strong natural sex drive, frowned upon in conservative cultures. She most likely also has a unique and unusual personality, that clashed with local accepted norms. And rejection of that from her family and others brought much anger and hurt to her. It made her turn to people and cultures that she perceived as more accepting of her. Hence the affinity towards westerners. And the hatred towards her own race.

Whoever planted the seeds of hate in her must have made a huge impact on her psyche. And the seed only grows as she encounters more and more instances of disrespect.

The tattoos, the feisty combative attitude all became defense mechanisms and ways to protect herself. The insults on 'small wangs and minds' are retaliation for rejection by her own culture, as well as a coping mechanism. Combined with her strong sex drive and hatred for her own race, she came to worship large penises. I know that sounds funny, but this is spoken from me without judgement or humor. I think this is how her psyche developed.

But her anger towards her culture and her family I think clouds her objective view. In truth, every culture and person has those that respect others and those that don't. Many many western men treat women as simply objects in HK because of the baggage and insecurity many women have. They can take advantage of these and fuck and dump them, with no moral hesitation or regard for the woman's feelings. Politeness and smiles simply give a false illusion of respect. If she can let go of her own anger towards her family or whoever it was that instilled those seeds of anger in her, then she would be able to accept each person for themselves andnot judge them as a culture. By unknowingly letting her hate and hurt affect her psyche, she has turned into the kind of person she despises the most - one that judges others, and one that insults others. She is still young though, and I think there is time to change.

2.  Doing it for sex or for money

In my view, the motivation for prostitution doesn't make it more or less respectable. Whether you do it more for the sex or more for the money, its simply a choice.

If you do it for the sex, that's fine. We cannot control our sex drives, not naturally anyways.

If you do it for the money, that's also fine, as long as you do it honestly. By honestly, I mean treating the client with respect, giving him/her the service that he/she paid for. The truth is many, many prostitutes that I have met do it to feed their families and kids. Many are divorced and are left to put their kids through school. They've been hurt by previous relationships and choose to become independent. Unfortunately, not everyone is lucky and blessed with good education, abilities, or a silver spoon. That's the unfortunate fact of life. Everything requires money in this world and the less fortunate turn to what society perceives as less moral ways to earn money. But I've met enough dishonest salespeople, accountants and lawyers to know what morals really are - to conduct yourself honestly. And some prostitutes are the most moral, upstanding people I have ever met. Of course some are also dishonest and calculating. But that's because of who they are, not what they do. It's far easier to attack a person by what they do rather than taking the time to discern the subtle differences.

Sorry for the long posting. Misspumpkin and the discussions here inspired me to write this. I just feel that if there was true understanding, there would be less arguments between members and service providers. Also if people understood themselves more, we can live more happily with greater acceptance for ourselves and others and can let go of our hate and anger.

[ Last edited by  mcnulty at 20-2-2013 08:43 ]

We obviously don't see eye to eye on this one either, but its my observation and my judgement

about the harmonious exchange ... it takes both parties to do that and as far as I can see the way this Ms P wrote about johns in general was far from harmonious even though I accept its her way of looking at things

She seems smart. Bad press is better than no press. She has caused a storm in this forum and more than a few people may be turned in or at least intrigued to find out more and arrange to meet her. And her writing style is direct and good to read and attention grabbing. This forum is mostly 'buyers', it would be interesting if more 'sellers' joined the discussions, not to advertise, but to debate.