Subject: 2nd shot negotiable
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Post at 12-8-2007 19:46  Profile P.M. 
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2nd shot negotiable

2nd shot negotiable
If this means as I think it means, which is to do it again within the 45min or 1hr original period. What is
the usual % of the original price.

Or  if you find the girl  really nice and want an extra 45min or hour, do you paid the same amount or is it negotiable.

Would be good to hear from members that have done this.
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Post at 12-8-2007 20:16  Profile P.M. 
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Two meaning:

1) 2nd hour/2nd shot will be cheaper (sort of discount).
2) 1st shot - 45 mins. 2nd shot extended - 1 hour. But price is the same for both 1st and 2nd shot.

I checked this with papasan (for Hotel gals), they dun give this discount.
But for overnight.....yes, negotiable.

For those non-hotel gals, yes, they usuallly offer discount on 2nd shot.

Not so common in HK for giving discount on 2nd shot, I dunno why......still new also.

But in most non- chinese countries, they offer like 3 hrs for the price of 2hrs. Also means 3 shots for the price of 2 shots. This is always offered on escort agency service (savings on trip) and usually in 3hrs, most customers can only cum twice and the other 1 hr extra is for chatting, shower, light massage, etc.
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Reply #2 hunter's post

if you really like the girl take her overnight

if 2nd shot better get other girl so you can prove additional report for all the brothers here ...hehehe

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Post at 16-8-2007 01:18  Profile P.M. 
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I think it depends.
If you get along well with the girl, give her a lot of pleasure, chatting with her etc...she may give you a discount without you asking for it.
That happened to me many times. i dont like negotiating (hence never did) because those girls are doing a very difficult and dangerous job and i would felt ashame to negotiate a 50 hkd discount whilst i earn a lot of money.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by oppa_hk at 16-8-2007 01:18
i dont like negotiating (hence never did) because those girls are doing a very difficult and dangerous job and i would felt ashame to negotiate a 50 hkd discount whilst i earn a lot of money.  ...

That's the right spirit. I agree with you completely       
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by oppa_hk at 16-8-2007 01:18
I think it depends.
If you get along well with the girl, give her a lot of pleasure, chatting with her etc...she may give you a discount without you asking for it.
That happened to me many times. i  ...

totally agreed
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by oppa_hk at 16-8-2007 01:18
I think it depends.
If you get along well with the girl, give her a lot of pleasure, chatting with her etc...she may give you a discount without you asking for it.
That happened to me many times. i  ...

Absolutely right...... in this business you asking for a discount you might as well go do your own HJ!  Women tend to lose respect if you asking for discount!
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Post at 16-8-2007 19:49  Profile P.M. 
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I just want to know what is normal business practice in hong kong. They a the one that said 2nd shot negotiable.
ps:  If I were to negotiate, I would not do it to the extent that the girl would get upset about the price. what is the point in getting a low price and upsetting the girl. you are not going to get GF feel.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by nemesis at 16-8-2007 19:49
I just want to know what is normal business practice in hong kong. They a the one that said 2nd shot negotiable.

True that sometimes when they see that you may not be very interested in getting a shot with them, they would say that it is negotiable, even for one shot.
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Post at 17-8-2007 01:34  Profile P.M. 
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I know Asian girls hate a cheapskate and love big spenders - but is that because they think all western guys are rich or are
they the same with locals?

Anyway, never ask for a discount       If you don't have the cash, stay home and save youself some
embarrassment    
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Reply #10 Jake's post

Jake I am sure they think the western people including the Chinese men from western countries are richer which is silly as there are a lot of rich men in Hong Kong.

However I have been told by all the different girls from Asia that is Chinese, Thai, Philippine, Vietnamese, Singaporian, Indonesian and Malaysian that western men tend to show good respect for them and always are gentlemen with them which is something their local men supposedly lack!  Please do not shoot the messenger I am just delivering what was said by the ladies!!  But then I do believe us western men can also be assholes look what happened to Sachiko?  So I think it is just in their minds.  In China I know for sure the men absolutely disrespect women except for their mothers!! I see it in elevators in restaurants and this is a big reason the chinese love western men! I got lucky with an office girl just by letting her out the elevator first she was smily I said whY?  We went on to have a coffee and then it was bedie bedie for 2 days straight so you can see they crave some respect and love!  I love my chinese women and respect them dearly for they are so sweet, humble and meek! I cannot but love them all the time. Cheers!
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Reply #11 TrickyD7's post

Hate to barge it. Before you get all your white male egos all boosted up, the truth is some Asian women simply want to give their low self-esteem a boost from being seen with their white, and lately black boyfriends. You are being used just as they are being used. It works both ways

Do not generalize about this or that about Chinese men, or anyone for that matter. Just as not all English guys are football hooligans and have big beer bellies, not all Chinese men are disrespectful to their women, as you put it.

It so easy to judge a book by its cover, isn't it? A couple of days in China and you'd think you're an expert That's one way to feel good by putting yourself on moral high ground, isn't it?

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Reply #12 beta's post

I guess it is about all cultural background;

being brought up and spending some time are two different matters;

depends on the individual how fast he/she can adapt to the local environment;

spent a couple of years in HK and know my way round;

spent more than 10 years being struck in Bangkok and still trying to understand the mentality of the Thais ..........................






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Reply #12 beta's post

As TrickyD7 said -  Don't blame the messenger. I've heard exactly the same things from dozens of girls in at least 5 Asian
countries. We're not passing judgement - just reporting what we've been told. Actually, the one place where I haven't
really heard it, and where we seem to be treated the same as the locals, is Hong Kong. Could be 2 reasons - maybe the local
guys have been influenced by British good manners or maybe that there are plenty of local guys with lots of money. But bring
up the subject of mainland guys and listen to what the girls say.
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Reply #13 sulasno's post

... and all this time I thought you were Chinese from Thailand

I agree each person's ability to assimilate is different. It also depends on how open the local population is to the newcomer, and there's bound to be a few racist pricks like Pauline Hanson to spoil the fun.

What mentality of the Thais that you don't understand, I wonder? I think Thais are quite possibly the friendliest people on Earth, and I'm not just sucking up to you

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Reply #14 Jake's post

British good manners? I believe it's probably through proper education more than anything else that women here are treated the same way as the next guy. There're bad apples just like anywhere else, of course. Some places more than others, but to imply that ALL Chinese guys, be they from HK or China, mistreat their women is all hogwash, to say the least

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Reply #15 beta's post

I am not going to tell you .....................






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Reply #14 Jake's post

Allow me to add my 0.02

Lived in HK for about 3-4 years and observed the following;

HK people are divided into 3 classes; those living on HK Island, Kowloon and NT have different characteristics;

Not sure whether this still applies after the colony returned to China;

HK island - snobbish
Kowloon - rough
NT - simple minded

Mainland Chinese Males; - look at the background of the average male; cheap and always taking advantage of the simpled minded girls from the North.  However this does not mean that all Chinese males in mainland China shared the same characteristics.  There is a marked difference between the north and the south of China.

Want my opinion of the PRC hanging in Bangkok ? money grabbing idiots !

Foreigners in Thailand? Most taking advantage of the local Thai girls;
All? No, but most are;
In return, the local girls hand around internet cafes, sending emails to the boyfriends asking for money to buy a cow

As far as I know, the local detest the British






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Reply #18 sulasno's post

A word about HKers. What you said is not entirely true. If you know them well and long enough, as friends or colleagues, they can be quite nice and friendly. As strangers they may appear to be quite cool but at least you won't have to endure racial slurs that you sometimes hear from bigots in the States or Australia. No one is perfect




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Reply #19 beta's post

care to elaborate what I said was not entirely true ?
about the HKers on the Island, Kowloon and NT ?

as mentioned, things may have changed ;

remembered back in the early 80's while I was shopping for a plush toy for my god sister along Nathan Road; the lady was rude when I asked her for the price; Attitude was zero. "Buy if you want it otherwise go away (Local slang; don't stop the Globe from turning)

During a recent trip, went to Temple street to buy a toy for my grandniece. Asked politely Ah Chan how much for the toy? Ah Chan said HK250. I told Ah Chan I am only willing to pay half the price. Ah Chan said "Hang on" and he got me a toy half the size.

Told Ah Chan that for that size, I am going to pay only HK60. Ah Chan smiling replied "Hang on...." and got me another toy that's half the size (1/4 the size of the original toy)

In the end I got the big one for HK$200

btw I got a godson who is a Hker

(PS for those not familiar with the local slang;
Ah Chan refers to someone (male) from mainland China)

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