Subject: fake Viagras galore
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fake Viagras galore

Hi everyone from a newbie.

While still a non-member I came across a recommendation here to try some pharmacies in Wan Chai for the "V".

Here's what I found out.

They charge from between HK$ 1400-2000/ bottle of 30 pills. Between HK$ 350-400/pack of 4.

Here's the catch.......Most of em are fakes less you have a prescription to show, and this is why I say that they are.

Got one bottle at Hk$1800/ at Wan Chai and tried half a tablet. While cut in half, I tasted the white powder for the bitter flavor of Sildenafil Citrate
but found out that it taste like nothing like the Viagras I've been accustomed to using in the past. Frankly I've been using them for over
three years and get them prescribed from a doctor friend while I was still in Singapore. The Viagra I tied here was tasteless.

Anyway for good measures I popped the halved tablets to see how it goes. Usually about 20 to 30 minutes gives me a boner from my
previous tablets but for this HK one, it was no go even for almost 2 hours.

So by then I was very pissed-off and very suspicious. I remembered I still had my previous Viagra blister packet for 4 and tried analysing the
situation by checking the tablet size contra the blister pod dimension. What I found out was that the HK viagra sold to me is a bit smaller
in dimension and was looking loose on the blister pack pod. By now too I felt the bluish color seems a bit lighter.  

It was around 2 1/2 hours by now and still no boner.....so assumption turned into conclusion and off I went calling the pharmacy to complain.

The druggist told me that maybe I took the V with alcohol which is not the way to do it and which is why it was not working. So I said, I took
it with plain water and I should damn know how to take this stuff as I had been doing it even with alcohol or Red Bull for so many years with
expected and desirable effects and nothing like this ever. So Mr. drugstore tells me to return them back and try to fix the siuation by giving
me a refund. So off I went back to the pharmacy and so they did return back my money. End of story, no sorry, no explanation as to why,
what or apologetic reactions.......a complete whitewash I'd say. My parting shot was that any adverse reactions from anyone taking their product
may have legal repercussions on them but what the heck, no effing reaction whatsoever.

So off I went to another druggist and this time at Causeway Bay. Tried getting the 4 tablet blister pack that comes in a box at Hk$370/
pack. Box packing exactly like the one I'm familiar with but why no holographic sticker of Pfizer? Why I asked is the sticker just in plain printed ink?
Mr. Druggist salesman tells me the latest batches no longer have the holographic sticker and this is indeed authentic and original.

So I tell  myself that hopefully this guy is telling the truth cause my hunting time is almost running out.

Opening the box at home and scrutinizing the blisterpack......I, to my dismay found again some anomalous discrepancies. And I enumerate them as follow:

-  Pfizer logo pattern and color on the silver foil on the pack different blue color tone from my previous blisterpacks. Likewise the logo of Pfizer was badly
   designed and slightly different even from the box where the pack came from.
-  The tablets and how they were packed in the pods were inverted. Orientation of original V tablets placed in the pods are in the direction
   of the  Pfizer logo printed in the blisterpack silverfoil.
-  Broke the tablet in half and tried tasting the white powder. Zilch........again no bitter taste. Any V users would swear how bitter Sildenafil Citrate
   powder is. This one was again tasteless.  
-  Lastly again the blue color of the tablets were too dark.

At this point I'm giving-up hope of attaining original V's from over the counter transactions as lightning has hit me twice.

Better to just get a doctor to prescribe and I guess that would be the best course of action to take.....safer too.

I'm still open for recommendations or advise though buty today was just pure bad luck. And so did the hunting......

By the way, all the expiry dates for both bottled and blisterpack sez 11 20011.

So this topic I posted is just to warn you guys about them fakes widely circulating around HK. Good if the fakes do work cause they can
be had cheap, but bad when you've been had and end-up with an undesirable side effect on your health.
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Reply #1 trojan's post

I buy bottles of 30 100 mg tabs of V in Wanchai for HK$ 1000. They are bitter as hell, and work quite well even tho I break them into thirds. When I was taking half a tab, I would experience face flushing and sometimes a mild headache. I solved the headache problem by reducing the dose to 1/3 of a tab, but there is still some mild face flushing. Aren't these the usual after-effects of Sildenafil - the active ingredient in V?

However, I have never taken genuine V, so I'm not able to compare what I source through my guy in Wanchai with the real thing. You say that with real V, after 30 mins, you get hard. I thought that, in itself, V does not produce an erection, but maintains and strengthens an erection once you've been stimulated in the normal way. This is what happens to me. When the girl opens the door and begins to disrobe, that's enough to produce a good hard-on, and often even thinking of the girl I'm about to visit does the trick. But popping one of my HK V doesn't automatically produce a boner; but then I thought V doesn't work like that.

I am aware that what I buy here in HK has a slightly different appearance than what Pfizer sells; but rather than fake, it is more accurate to say that HK V is generic, in that they contain Sildenafil but are not from Pfizer - just as aspirin is aspirin even tho not from Bayer the original patent holders.

But you seem to have been sold something than has no effect whatsoever. I'm going to have to try a real V to see if there are any noticeable differences.

Are there any bros out there who have taken both Pfizer's V and the generic version available here in HK?




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Reply #2 Marsupial's post

Any bros here who has tried the Indian version (I think it's called Kamagra or something). I have a friend who is going to be based in India in a new job from end of this month and I was thinking of asking him to send me some to try.
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Marsupial, are you able to advise the location of your purchase?
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Reply #2 Marsupial's post

Marsupial-
Can you tell us exactly where the pharmacy is?  I got lucky on some V in Thailand, but only tried the 4 pack.  I'd love to get the 30x 100mg if I knew it was gonna work.  Sounds like you've got a good dealer.  Is there a street address or rough location in Wan Chai.  Thanks, brother!
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Bros,

I have just completed a test run of Generic Viagra, Levitra and Cialis from Indian sources over the internet.

1) All successfully generated full hard lasting erections within one hour of taking on semi empty stomach.

2) Viagra (100 mg cut in half) still gives me warm face cheeks, I had no adverse reaction with the other two.

3) I cut the 100 mg Viagra in two pieces, I swallowed the Cialis whole and the Levitra (too small to split)

4) Best of the bunch was Cialis, not so much that its result was better than the others but it stayed in my system for about 3 days. In fairness it was a larger dose than the split Viagra, Levitra seemed to do the job but was off the system within 24 hours.

Please note that I am benchmarking Indian generics, I would have cost a fortune to acquire this many pills from the brand name here in Oz. Total damage for 34 pills (14 Viagras, 10 C, 10 L) was about $HK 1400 including shipping. India would seem
a reliable source for generics (ie they work). Always consider your health before acquiring drugs without a proper medical assessment.
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Please share the addresses in private via PM
thanks
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PM's sent to Smahtkris and rexi




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brother, would appreciate if you can send some info to me as well.
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Reply #8 Marsupial's post

  Mars ... not worried about being singled out by narcs ?  
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Reply #10 2/wk's post

Dear Mr Police Officer, 2/wk made me do it! I'm just passing on info supplied by 2/wk. He sad it wouldn't be right for a moderator to give out this kind of information on the web site. He said passing on the address wasn't illegal, and that I wouldn't get into trouble, but that the Admins would be angry if he did it.  2/wk said that if I didn't do it, he get me banned, and I couldn't go through that again! Please, you've got to believe me. I'm just an innocent white guy - I mean I never even heard of Wanchai before.




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Reply #11 Marsupial's post

        
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58 Platinum

Has anyone heard of 58 Platinum?

understands that it is retailing for 149 for 2 pills at 7-11
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Reply #14 sulasno's post

I thought that was a condom brand !!!

Going to drop by and have a look !
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#15

Someone is offering me a discount of 20;

and is located in Wanchai
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Reply #16 sulasno's post

You mean 20% or 20 pills ?

I still think its condoms and not pills we're talking about here  
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HK$20 off the retail price;

think I going to bash my informer for the wrong info
must be using his small head when chatting with me
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Reply #3 yy145's post

yes, the generic version made in India is very good and in my opinion no difference from Pfizer.
I also tried the generic version made in China which is hit or miss but generally is effective.
Generics are a fraction of the cost. I am told in Indiia, they are very very cheap.
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Reply #8 Marsupial's post

Hi Mars, I'm joining a little late in this thread, but if you get this, can you please PM me the address of the place you've gone to, also?  Thanks.

I just bought a 4-pack of 50 mg for $250 in Wanchai, so in the meantime I'll see how that goes and report back.  It says Pfizer and Viagra all over, so it's either the real deal or a total fake, I think, because if it's just a generic, then it wouldn't pretend to be Pfizer...it would just say Sildenafil.

Anyway, I've never tried anything before but will report back after I've tried it.
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