One of my concerns was building security. Which areas have them and which ones don't?

I know that most the time this really isn't an issue but...
From my experience, visiting friends, there are some off days (actually nights) with their building security.
Mostly giving me the "Are you lost? (You don't belong here)" look.

Most of the time after quick thinking in trying to figure out how to respond (I don't speak any Cantonese or any Chinese dialect for that matter), I usually respond with a name and apartment number. Sometimes they seem content and at other times they seemed confused or still suspicious, but I just walk to the elevator quickly.

Although I always seem to get by, I want to save my trouble or cover my bases while visiting 141 girls.

Any tips or suggestions?

I think you've got it right there bro. Try to look like you know exactly where you're going. If it's a building I don't know, I'll
try to go early to check where the lift is. Then, when I go to visit the girl I can just walk in and go straight to the lift without
any hesitation.

I've never had to deal with security because I've never gone into any of these buildings after 10 PM - prior to that there is no security.

For those buildings that require a password after 10 PM (?) to open the front gate - the girls usually supply that on their site pages.

A bit of wisdom that I've gained from 30 yrs in the Orient: when you don't want to be hassled by some guy going through the motions, speak rapid English - that always wrong foots them and they let you go just to get rid of you. With bureaucrats, cops, anyone you don't care to spend a lot of time with, speak English. I've even spoken Italian on the occasions I REALLY don't want to be bothered. It always works.

One time I had a run in with a dum security guard at PE at one of the buildings near the street market.  I cant recall what the address was but anyways..  the guy thought I was a Thai boy and gave me the stink eyes and thought he can beat me up or something.  Well I wasnt scared I kept walking in and he stopped me for my ID and well I bust out my passport...  and he looked at it (and ofcourse didnt know how to read english) and just said "stupid thai guy..." in chinese and gave me back my passport.  Ofcourse I fully understood him and gave him a stink look back and told him im going 3rd floor...  I was going to tell him its not Thai and its English...  but I didnt want to deal with his low life ass so I grabbed my passport and walked up the stairs...  when I came back down he was stairing at me all the way out.  I wanted to knock his ass down but I walked away and didnt want to get into that kind of trouble while visiting in HK.  So I gather myself and went off hunting in another building.  I never go back there to hunt anymore.  Bad experience...

Well .. I'm glad you didn't deck him otherwise you'll be writing a report on
how lawyers make their money and how life is in a police detention centre.

Everybody must remember that security guards employed in these older buildings
are poorly educated and are near their retirement age, and most of them are
grouchy. If they ask for your ID its because the building owners committee
are forcing them to do so (probably because they don't want the 141 girsl there).
And it doesn't matter if your local or foreign or how you talk to them or how fast
you talk to them - if you show them your ID they cannot prevent you from entering.

For me, if there's a girl in that building that's worth her weight then
a grouchy watchman is not going to make any difference



[ Last edited by  twiceAweek at 29-12-2007 11:15 ]

Though, unfair as it is, we white guys can often get away with a lot here in Asia by just pretending not to understand what the locals are saying. But twiceAweek is right, the guards are just doing their jobs, if they want to see your ID, show them your ID. At the most they'll glance at it and hand it back to you. They just want to feel as if they're earning their paychecks. My humble advice, never lose your temper because you'll always regret it later when you've calmed down.

Sound advise all round in the thread, when I toured HK I stood out like a sore thumb, yes I got stared at by some guards but I kept eye contact without
trying to look defiant or hesitant. Sure, had they asked for ID I would have co-operated, these buildings are full of WG's so what are we hiding/pretending to be doing there.

The guy at James Lee Mansion seemed the most annoying, after my second visit he never bothered to ask anymore.

Most of the 'guards' seemed to be retired old men anyway, i did not see any scary ninjas .

Punt On !

Strange one is NSD. Which is a hourly love hotel. But they now have a guard manning the lift asking for ID. Walk like you own the place and he will not bother you. Have done this a few times already.

I wonder what they can do if you showed your ID and said, "I am just here to have some hot private sex".  I doubt if they can stop you from entering the building.

I never worry about it - just show your ID and let them write down the number. You're doing nothing illegal, so what's the
worst that can happen? If it ever gets back to your loved ones, which is extremely unlikely, - just DENY, DENY. DENY. You
were never there and you don't know how they got your name and ID number - must be a fake ID.       
Somebody once stole my credit card details and I got all these bills from Japan - I've never been to Japan.  Same thing.  

  agree, there's nothing any bro here should be worried about
showing their ID ... unless he doesn't have one !

Why are there so many bros here worried about night watchmen and security guards ?
They're just a slight inconvenience and thats all !!!

You're sure you've never been to Japan??  You don't have to deny it to us, Jake.   (Yes, I wholeheartedly agree, when discovered--DENY till the end )

My worries will be that the info will be used "elsewhere". Afterall, ID numbers are often used in various places, and you don't want to be the victim of an ID theft when they write down your info.

That is something the police will have to explain ... they advocate security for buildings by
advising the building management to note the ID name and number yet under the privacy
ordinance states that no person need to show theit HK ID to anyone unless its to the police ...

I always show my ID and so far its hasn't given me any problems.

Happy New Year bro

Thanks guys for your help.

I always carry an ID as advised from my friend though I've never been required to show it except when I pay with my credit card to restaurants and such. He said on rare occasions a policemen may

I remember my first week I was a bit lost and  I was near a policemen and we made I contact and just as he was about to speak I asked him directions for a street (in English) which he pointed out the way. I never really thought much of it till now. I wonder what he'd say to me if I hadn't spoken first.

I guess speak English well, they know you are from the Western world.

Aside from that, I guess most the time I blend in since people try to communicate with me in Cantonese at random.

But maybe I'm wrong because other times, this is not the case.
I remember once I went to a small Japanese restaurant in Causeway bay. They didn't seem so thrilled to serve me. I ordered a full meal a typical nigiri set, soup, salad. After I was done I ordered another complete meal (Since I love sushi and there's no way I can get those prices in the US plus theres no need for tip). This however alarmed them (remember they seemed kind of wary of me to begin with). The waitress had to bring in another person (manager?) to clarify if I was really asking for another complete meal and he took care of me the rest of my time there.

After I finished my meal, I asked for the bill and paid via credit card. They printed out a receipt for me to sign and he seemed confused. Somehow I was prepared for that reaction with my ID ready and I handed it to him. He looks at it and takes a look at me and hands it back to me.

You're Japanese?" Suddenly he becomes my best friend and warmed up to me.
All the questions come out, "How do you like Hong Kong? etc. etc."

Needless to say every time I go back there I get great service (nothing special since they give everyone everyone else there great service).

Little incidents like that happen here and there all over the world.
I never confirmed why incidents like this happen but I could take a good guess.


I thought I mention the above story its similar to how sqwrt mentioned how a security guard treated him.
The only difference is sqwrt understood Cantonese and confirmed the situation while he heard the security guard say "Stupid Thai boy."

My ace in the hole is my last name especially in places where people are fascinated with Japanese culture and novelties.
However, in other places around the world its best to lay low and be whatever people think I am which is local/frequent visitor or close friend or family to a local.

[ Last edited by  kin at 31-12-2007 07:05 ]

Lantau.....?

What mask were you wearing........

Try to do that a few months back........No joy....

ID again......

DO MOST OF THE 141 BUILDING STILL HAVE ID CHECK NOW?
NO WAY I WANT TO GIVE MY ID AND MY REAL IDENTITY.

I MUST TRY THE WALKING UP SOON. LET ME NAME THE BUILDING I WANT TO VISIT THE GAL AND I WILL POST HERE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE TO CONFIRM IF ID CHECK IS REQUIRED. THANKS

watch the caps dude...

Not been to many 141 buildings but I've heard National Court has security that checks for ID, luckily theres another way in so you can get by them without them ever seeing you so I've never actually ran into security over there but the girls have always been busy when i've been because I've not made an appointment