Subject: How to date a 18/19/20 y/o old girl?
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How to date a 18/19/20 y/o old girl?

Hi,

I heard about *compensation dating*, but what if I just want to have a date with a young girl, young meaning 18-20, and I am a 30+ western guy and willing to pay a small amount of cash just to see a movie or hang out, nothing else. Just curious, would there be any way to do it.

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Post at 18-11-2009 20:13  Profile P.M. 
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well it all depends on your appearance   and what countries u are planing to date those girls :p im 29 , i got a wife & kid at home, also a "mae noi" its what they call it in thai outside home. and she is just 20

Most important facts to date asian girls at that age...

If the girls is not after your wallet:

1. U need to be clean
2. nice looking , got taste for fashion
3. polite & respect the girl
4. funny to hang out with, can jokes and also can be mature etc..
5. in asian cultures the male pay almost everything for female, like dining out, cinema etc..
6. romantics ? :p and a good listener

If the girls is after your wallet:

1. you can be anything and she still will love it :p




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Reply #1 adam8449's post

go chat up some uni ladies, my man.  i had a buddy who visited HK once, and while i was at work, he perved around HKU
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by adam8449 at 18-11-2009 16:54
willing to pay a small amount of cash ...

What exactly does that mean? Are you prepared to pay her $1,000 and cover all the expenses?




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QUOTE:
Originally posted by Mighty at 18-11-2009 20:13
If the girls is after your wallet:

1. you can be anything and she still will love it :p

LMAO.... truer words have never been spoken!

yea i mean if you find her just sucking up non stop and constantly ur dropping loads of cash, might be wise not to get too deep into that
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Reply #1 adam8449's post

Hang out? , there are plenty on craigs list.




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Reply #1 adam8449's post

I suspect this thread will be closed down shortly - topic a bit too sensitive for the authorities to leave it alone.  

Enjo Kosai is a political hot potato - we're lucky to have the 141 site for WGs, and the admins want to keep it that way.




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Post at 19-11-2009 13:35  Profile P.M. 
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As long as there no mention of specifics it will remain as is
but this thread is being watched.
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Whats wrong with that?

Whats wrong with compensation dating, isn't marriage compensation dating, isn't dating compensation dating?

For example, many of the dates I had in the past, the girl expected to have a good time which cost money and in return I had a good time.

Marriage where the house-wife stays at home is a stay at home prostitute that also cooks and cleans, the combination of a maid and a wg.
Really, it depends on your point of view, but there is a lot of equivalence.
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Reply #9 adam8449's post

Whoaaa.. wait a minute here. You saying that your momma, grandma, sisters are home prostitutes? Well, suit yourself there adam, but I sure ain't going to equate that as equivalent.

Prostitution is where all guys can have a go at the girl.. with compensation of course, mostly $$$. Even if I do take a WG private to be a SO, it still ain't home prostitution...
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You have a very narrow definition of a prostitute! how about a high class hooker, not every guy can have a go with her.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by adam8449 at 19-11-2009 19:50
Whats wrong with compensation dating, ... ?  

Nothing is wrong with it

except that it's currently attracting a lot of political and media attention.  

Nothing wrong with the subject

unless the hounds start to think this forum and this site facilitates it.  

Fact is compensated dating is usually not about movies and starbucks.  We know that: why else would the subject come up here of all places?  

It's not our opinion that matters.  Not even their opinion matters.  There's a ton of hypocrisy out there in the well-meaning protectionism, but that's not important either.  
What matters is that we have here an asset that's both valuable and tolerated, which is worth us looking after.  

Still, it's OK to talk ABOUT the subject - just need to steer clear of specifics - leave making contacts to other websites.  

Self-regulation beats being regulated any day in my book.  
My 2c.




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Reply #11 adam8449's post

While I agree with Derrick's reply, I'll try to keep the tone light...don't wanna flame you.

the difference between compensated and actual companionship/dating is the emotional investment of the individual involved. While we may pay for everything when going out with a girl, they are with us because they like us and have grown attached to us.

high class courtesans are selective about their client base for two reasons: to maintain their high-status profile and to protect themselves. either way, it's not out of any kind of emotional attachment.

moreover, this is also the reason why gold-diggers are hated so much in common society, as they are seen by the mass public as bad people that need monetary or material compensation for their company.

...on occasion, my girlfriend has said, 'fuck me like a little whore!' much to my chagrin ...if she only knew...
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Reply #12 DArtagnan's post

damn straight there's nothing wrong with it!

i got on a bus full of school girls last week and the whole second level oozed of fruity perfume and blossoming sexuality. there were quite a few girls in there that i wouldn't mind paying to privately tutor!

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Originally posted by adam8449 at 19-11-2009 20:33
You have a very narrow definition of a prostitute!  

The definition IS narrow - it's a woman who sells sex for money. That's it.

Stay at home wives are not prostitutes. A girl who goes on a date with you because you'll buy her a nice dinner and take her to a movie is not a prostitute.  However if, at the end of the evening, she says you can fuck her for $1,000 - that's prostitution. Also known as compensated dating.




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Reply #15 Lenny's post

It depends on how you choose to view prostitution. You are probably familiar with this thread devoted to just that very topic:

http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... hlight=%2BMarsupial




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QUOTE:
Originally posted by adam8449 at 11/19/09 06:50 AM
Whats wrong with compensation dating, isn't marriage compensation dating, isn't dating compensation dating?

For example, many of the dates I had in the past, the girl expected to have a good time whi ...

You really have the wrong perception and a poor attitude about women and dating.  I can't tell if you're just inexperienced in relationships or if you're just immature.  Or both.

Compensation "dating" is when you're paying to spend non-sexual time with a person.  I don't know why you would pay a girl just to go see a movie with you or hang out.  Would you do this in your home country?  If not, then why would you do this in a foreign country?

Secondly, dating and marriage are nothing like buying sex.  If you think this is the case then your perception is way off and quite emotionally immature.  If you're paying to have fun with a girl on a date, you're paying for the entertainment itself (restaurants, movies, games, drinks, etc.) and not the girl.  You would be paying for the same things on your own without the girl.  If you can't make this distinction then you have a problem.  This has nothing to do with point of view.

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Reply #17 Freelancer's post

Hey bro, no call for flaming .. ... especially when YOU'RE the one who's being naive!!!
Actually you contradict yourself when you say "I don't know why ...".  You're right: guys don't pay a girl just to go see a movie or hang out.  

Compensated dating is non-sexual only under Bill Clinton's definition of the word.  

When you look at a WG's website in the UK (for example) and it says in big letters "payment is for time and companionship only", do you believe guys actually expect to spend an hour or two TALKING?????  

If I pay for a girl, regardless of whether it's in cash or in kind, yes I expect a return - otherwise she can pay her own way.  My company and entertainment has as much value as hers does.




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Reply #17 Freelancer's post



QUOTE:
Originally posted by Freelancer at 21-11-2009 02:48
Compensation "dating" is when you're paying to spend non-sexual time with a person.  

Freelancer babe, you obviously have no understanding of the local situation concerning CD.

Tho "compensated dating" does not, as you say, always involve sex, in Asia this practice has raised a real storm of social protest. It started in Japan as Enjo kosai (援助交際) where high school girls would hook up with older men. Sex was usually the point of the whole thing, so in order to get around the anti-prostitution laws, not to mention the laws against adults having sex with minors, the Japanese created "telephone clubs" where men pay a monthly membership fee to contact the girls via their mobiles.

There was a great deal of media interest in the practice with undercover film clips of aging reporters pretending to be salarymen meeting girls in their high-school uniforms in Tokyo coffee shops and discussing fees for various sex practices, and magazine interviews with bored 15 yr-olds describing how they just wanted money to buy Gucci bags, etc.

Enjo kosai then spread to Taiwan, HK and Korea where it was mostly just a form of prostitution with underage girls. The police and society in general are very unhappy with this whole thing and there has been much media outrage.

To complicate the whole thing further, this site has had it's own share of legal problems, that have to do with the very specific laws that determine how profit can be legally derived from prostitution in HK. The last thing the site owners want is to be associated with a practice that HK's legal and social authorities have forcefully condemned. So altho the admins take a very laissez-faire attitude towards what we discuss here, the Mods cannot allow the forum to be used to further this practice.

Hopefully, now that you know something of the situation here in HK, you'll be able to make a more informed contribution to our forum.

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there's something wrong with the time line of thread #17 ...

it was posted on 21-11-2009 11:02 yet it was edited on 20-11-2009 14:27 - glitch in the system ?

did Freelancer change the contents of what he wrote ?
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