Hi All

After having a look around on this site i just had to join! Well I am new to this site so hope all you out there will give me some guildance and help..... never knew this site exsisted as many times i have been to HK and had to go to Macau to...shall we say relief the tension. One thing that is bugging me is i come across lots of phases here but dont know what they stand for....etc DATY and Vanilla!! As i am new to this site just like to ask... when i use search how come i cant search by full text?? however this is an option....strange or just me.

This is a great site but not that user friendly..... I will be coming to HK in Sept so thought i should do some homework!! Anyone have any suggestions for a new fellow friend?? and how come is the case the girls change so often here.... In Uk this is not the case.

Many thanks......

welcome to the forum!

Try these:
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... &extra=page%3D1

http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... &extra=page%3D1

They are at the top of the forum section - you should see them when you clicked on the forum.  

Anything else you want to know, highly recommend using the search function - there are a lot of articles here.  Sorry, this isn't wikipedia so noone has time to catalog and index them ... guess everyone's too busy doing something else!

Welcome to the forum !  

You're a newbie here so you are restricted in what you are allowed to do, post or report more
and you become a member (50 credits) to make better use of the facilities in this forum.

Every country is different and its the same here, so hotel girls only works here for a short period of time
while walk ups are more permanent. You should read more threads in Q & A section to understyand better.

Thanks for your help.... it was much appreciated. So twice a week how many posts do i have to do to reach the 50 credits?? and when i have reached that what else can i do on the site that i cant do now?? any one have any good girls to recommend?? or any other sites i should be looking at?

Have fun.  Do plenty of research.  Spend plenty of time reading the reports.  And don't forget to post reports of your visits.

just post 50 reports, and you will definitely hit 50 credits!

depending on if you make good reports and posts senior bros here will add credits through their rating but
in any case, 49 posts will do it.  after becoming a member you will be able to attach pictures , have your
search capabilities expanded and you can have your own avatar.

its not proper for us to promote other sites ...   but I can tell you this is the best one in HK !

You need to decide if you want hotel girls or walk ups first ... hotel girls cahnge often so you need to
wait and see when you get here. Just make sure you bring a computer when you come here !

Thanks Bro ( twice a week) funny you should metion about a computer as i was thinking of getting 1 when i was in HK!! does any one know the price for a Dell M1330?? or more importantly if this is a good laptop.... computers?? shouldnt we be talking about girls!?!? haha

Anyway as u might have encountered first timers like me.... is it better or even safer to go for hotel girls?? also in my times of punting in the UK i have encountered some girls not being the same as the photos.... does this happen much in HK? Also are the walk ups safe? and as it seems to me you can just wonder into these buildings and knock on the doors?

Dell....   
http://www.price.com.hk/product.jsp?p=105127

Remember to bargain when buying in HK.....

Welcome to the forum.

Smart man, doing your homework up front. That will pay off dividends, I promise you... although you won't really know how much, if you've never done it before! On my first trip I had one week in HK, and probably wasted the first 4 days because I didn't know what I was doing. The last 3 days were heavenly, but I was left to wonder what kinds of memories I could've created with more than twice as much time to dedicate.

The girls change often because MANY are from out of town. Wages in HK dwarf wages in most of the rest of Asia. A girl can make a year's salary at her secretary job in Yunnan province, or work for just one week in HK. HK offers 14-day visas to many Asian nations, and these are the visas most often used by Filipinas, etc.

High turnover rates mean more girls to choose from!

Unfortunately, high turnover rates also mean that even if you visit again just 3 months later, you favorite girl might have gone home already. =^(

Walk-ups are very safe and reliable... and more convenient since some of the photos here are photo-shopped. You can always walk to the next door if the girl isn't to your liking face-to-face. Hotel appointments are tougher to "cancel" since the girl had to make time and travel to your place. Often they will make a stink until they get some sort of compensation, or so I have read.

One note to keep in mind... I have noticed a pattern that the most attractive girls seem to get lower scores for service. In fact, I'd venture to say that up to half of the reports that feature true stunners also feature stories of disappointment... and yet they had to pay extra, because of her knee-weakening good looks! Me, I'm a pragmatist... If I can have 3 quite cute girls for the same price as an absolute stunner... I'm going for the gang! And often, the merely-aboveaverage-looking ones are the ones who are better at making you happy... because they have to be, to compete for business with the stunners!

Both hotel appointments and door-knocking are quite safe... but it never hurts to keep your most valuable valuables in mind (especially passport, credit cards, wrapping your manhood, etc). I've never heard of a robbery happening, but that doesn't mean it never will. These girls are pretty darn sincere about pay-for-play. They want money, you want fun, and in HK the marketplace is very well-established and reliable. No pleasantries necessary, no need/time/desire/linguistic ability to try to play a confidence scam, so no need to worry about such things. You both get what you want and move on. Woo-hoo!

[ Last edited by  maybe317 at 22-8-2008 06:35 ]

A lot of good advice given.  

Firstly thanks for the link puff daddy......much apprieciated.

Also thanks for the information Maybe317..... anyway any pitfalls i should look out for?? about the walk ups..... i have noticed that for example.... in TST there are always alot of WG from the same walkups.... so i take it this is like some kind of big brothel where there are lots of girls working??  if so i am sure the police / neighbours are aware of this..... dont they complain or make arrests?? if this was in UK the girls will go to work at 12pm and be arrested by 1pm!!! also how will i know if the door i am knocking on is one of a WG?? do they have english signs??....... just one last thing when you call and talk to papasans / mamasans do they fully understand english or act differently with you?? You see i ask this is because i tend to ask a WG to dress a certain way for our meetings.... is this possible?? Thanks...

Hey playtime, each walk up WG has their own room and this is legally acceptable in HK.  All the walk ups have their room number on their door plus a sign saying please wiat or welcome.  Everyone is aware of what goes on in these rooms.  If the police come they are more interested in checking the WG's legality to be there rather than busting for a prostitution arrest.

If you are looking for a hotel reservation WG and you ring the papasan or mamasan most understand English to some degree.  I don't know if they act differently with you as they are businesspeople wanting to make a transaction.  As far as specialty clothing, I have no knowledge of this, but ring the mamas and the papas and chat with them about your requirements.

Whatever you do, don't be meek about it.  Talk and walk like you own the place!  And don't forget to have fun.

Just a few additions. For hotel girls, most are here on short-term visas so you need to check the database daily. If they're not getting the business anticipated, many leave immediately. Others may be inexperienced newbies who just can't stand to be fucked ten times a day. Very few of the hotel girls have costumes with them so they'll usually greet you in the outfits they have on in their photos on the site or in street clothes. Some of the walk-up girls will advertise on their webpages that they have costumes and there's usually a small extra charge, like HK$50. The most usual costumes are Japanese school-girl outfits which look like sailor suits, or nurses costumes or bunny outfits. Don't expect exotic costumes like Catwoman or a British headmistress. The walkup girls are likely to agree to wear costumes that you bring along such as fishnet stockings or crotchless panties. The walkup girls are legal in the respect that in HK locally resident prostitutes are allowed to work out of single rooms or flats (hence 141....one-for-one, geddit?). No pimps, protectors or even maids allowed on the premises and girls are not allowed to share rooms or work in pairs, officially that is.
The problem is occasionally with mainland Chinese girls working here while on tourist visas, which is not allowed.
In fact a huge percentage of working girls in HK are from the mainland and working illegaly.
I have never heard of raids on hotel rooms, but some hotels have been warned from time to time and will have someone checking visitors after 11 pm and asking who they are visiting and asking for ID.
I was caught in a walkup once with a mainland girl but was told that what I was doing wasn't illegal but that the girl was committing an immigration offence and that I might be called as a witness. My particulars were taken but I was never called about this.

As far as language is concerned, it is more of a problem than some of the bros have made out.
The walkups are fine as they have signs on the door which eeither say Welcome (in which case you ring the doorbell or knock) or Please Wait, which means the girl is busy being pounded by another bro. In some of the slightly remoter areas of town or the countryside satellite towns the signs may be only in Chinese, in which case you might be in trouble. Check the Q&A forum as I'm fairly certain some posted pictures of the Chinese characters.
The papas/mamas who handle bookings for the hotel girls vary from number to number as far as English level is concerned. The main problem will be understanding the name of the hotels. A friend of mine who visited always stood near a concierge desk and if he didn't understand the name of the hotel handed the mobile phone to the concirege for help. This has the added benefit of getting the hotel name and number in writing for a cabbie which is a bonus because the level of English among cabbies is not high. Of course you can also hand the phone to the cabbie.
Don't expect much English from the girls as they're almost all from Mainland China and not highly educated. If they're rocket scientists, their education is unlikely to have been in English!
Always have a list of choices on you. You may start calling ten numbers and finally only get through to number ten!
Here's a photo of a fairly typical hotel girl to whet your apetite.

Have fun!

[ Last edited by  Siklong69 at 22-8-2008 16:14 ]

Thanks Siklong69 for your help....well after talking with so much of you i think you all have the impression that i a english... when in fact i am englsh but i am of a chinese decent...so some will say i am BBC... its not that i cant communicate in cantonese its just i can express my self better when i speak in english..... anyway Siklong69 talking about Hotel girls i have already looked on the data base and came a cross a girl i really liked ( suet yee - TST)a week ago and to my horror when i was once again perving on the database to find my targets i noticed she (suet yee) had gone!!! now i understand what you lot mean when you say the dont stick round for long!!!
well to save myself from this heartache i decided to either 1. go to HK NOW or 2. dont look at the database until a coule of days before i go to Hk......

So Siklong69 do some of the hotel girls ever return??? good dam the suet yee was so fit!!! Oh another thing do the walk up girls work independently?? so they answer the phone directly or do they have mamas or papas?? As i am asking these quetions as i have never done this in HK before so need to get as much information as i can...... if in UK fuck me i am the king of this!!so if anyone needs any advice about whoring in UK then feel free to drop me a line.....

So Siklong69 do u know where is the best place to have a drink in a nice classy wine bar??..... not really into the nightcub sence now cant stand the noise. alot of reports have been on wanchai...is it reallly that good?? U a perment resident of HK or you here for business??... u dont need to answer if you feel that i am evading yr privacy mate.... Thanks

No problem, Playtime, we've all been newbies here in the past. If you can speak Cantonese that will be a big help in getting info from the papas. Being ethnic Chinese will also help as some girls won't accept foreign customers because they think we have huge dicks which will mess with their internal organs. I have been rejected three or four times in the past. One girl who rejected me agreed to have a look at my willie first and as soon as she saw it was normal and rather cute, she agreed to take me on.
To answer your specific questions yes, some of the hotel girls come back. Some of them time after time. If you're a serious player, you might want to keep a little archive for reference of your favourite girls. Be aware that hardly any of the names you see on the database are their real names and they may change names each time they come back and work for another papa and sometimes even change names halfway through their stay.
If you're looking for Suet Yee closer to your arrival date, she might in fact be here, but under a different name, so saving one of her photos might be a good idea. In fact you can highlight sections of the database and copy and paste them into a format like Word which you can then print out. If you're in England now and even if you rushed to Heathrow immediately, there's no guarantee that any of the girls you see in the db today will still be there tomorrow, but there are hundeds of girls to choose from so you always have a choice.
Also be aware that many photos are photoshopped so sometimes the girls don't look as great as they do in their photos and some papas even 'bait and switch', so carrying some references is good.
My own general little rules are that I seldom, if ever, go for girls that are photogrpahed in a studio background or who have their faces pixilated or blocked out. I've had bad experiences with such girls.
I'm also a bit suspicious of girls who cover their bellies with their arms and hands in every photo as this might mean they're hiding tatoos or scars...or even sagging bellies. Also girls who are fully dressed in every photo make me a bit suspicious for the same reason.
Ages and other info on the db may also not be 100% true, so take everything with a pinch of salt and use your judgement. Check out the data often and develop a 'feel' for what is likely to be real.
Some of the girls who come back often, have the same info for several years. There is a current example. A girl called Gi Gi currently, used to be called Do Do and I have tried to get a session with her many times but she's always been busy when I was free. She was described as 19 two years ago and the photos have remained the same. I'm still curious and wouldn't mind shagging her, but I'm not expecting her to be 19 in 2008. Probably more like 23 or 24 by now. I think I remember some good reports about her in the early days of this forum.
That's another good guide for you....good reports. On the one hand you can read other bros' experiences but be aware that some girls who get great reports sometimes become so busy that you can get through.
ALWAYS have at least half a dozen choices or you might be disappointed. If you come armed with only Suet Yee's phone number you might be devasted when you call and can't get through time after time. There was a girl called Jessi recently who was very hot and none of the English-speaking bros in this forum could get through to her. If you also read Chinese you might find it helpful to check the Chinese version of the forum.
The walkup girls, as the name implies, may not take bookings or even have phone numbers listed. Many of the numbers only get you to a voicemail recording which sounds a littloe like those phone-sex lines, describing the girl and telling you to come over. If they take bookings, it will usually say so on her page.
Usually bros who go for the walkup girls go out armed with long lists of names and address and then try their luck. If you're shy about being in the same corridor with other bros all knocking on doors, then you're better off with hotel girls as they are 100% by appointment only.
Be aware that you will need a local mobile phone and show your caller ID as most papas here require to see this and will always tell you that they will call you back. Even some of the walkup or 'phone appointment' girls have written on their web pages that "caller ID is required".
There are many winebars and restaurants all over town. One of the best mongering areas is Tsim Sha Tsui where you will have many nice bars in the same neighbourhood as many of the hotels where the girls are based. One of my favourites is the Kimberley Road and Knutsford Terrace areas as you have many restaurants and bars as well as 6 nor 7 hotels within walking distance, some just minutes away and others within 10 to 15 minutes walk
Wanchai is a bit raucus for my taste and there are far fewer 141 girls available, especially hotel girls. Over 100 in TST and probably around a dozen in Wanchai. There are lots of bargirls and street hookers in Wanchai and many of them are Filipinas and Thais as well as some Latin American ones from time to time. Not my cup of tea and there have been cases of punters being drugged and robbed in Wanchai.
I have lived here and in Taiwan for a total of over 20 years and I'm in the engineering business here.

I'm almost totally into young, pretty Chinese girls and in London I've only seen postcards stuck in phone booths advertising women, but most of them looked pretty scary!
My business meetings in London are usually in the Soho area. Do you know of any services or direct lines to young Chinese girls and what do they charge?

Thanks Siklong69 mate for all yr helpful infomation..... Oh have to ask you this as i forgot lastime... you know on the side of yr picture and below there are Karma, Money and reading access.... what does this mean?? and also how can i access search on this site by "search mode" full text as i can not do this at the moment?? so i have to read alot of reports which i dont need to read about girls, which tend to be either very old and the girls aint on the DB anymore or dont provide the service i want.

Haha reading the last paragraph of yr post made me laugh as it reminds me of my first whoring days in London...looking in phones booths for cards.....well as i said i am the king of this in the UK, mate so here goes.....

Well u are very different to me as i prefer English girls....and i aslo find alot of English guys prefer their little "chinese Dolls" but dont worry as London caters for every taste as its one of the WHORING capitals of the world!!!

well the first thing you have to understand that you are in London so expect to pay London prices.... remember even a Budweiser will cost you about 5 pounds (75HKD)!!!!. so a girl will cost you anything from 150 pounds to 500 pounds (2250 to 7500HKD) for 1 hour. But dont worry the high end girls are really not worth it....trust me i know as i have had a few dissappointing services with them...... I tend to find the cheaper and middle ranged priced girls provide better service as they tend to think about repeat customers and sell by service rather than their "stunningly good looks" . As i reading from yr last post you are very clued up about yr whoring especially about the pitfalls.... well mine are pretty much the same but anyway i will highlight the main pitalls i have encountered in London....

1. Remember the main thing here is that you are the customer and there are plenty i mean PLENTY of girls to choose from so when you call them remember make sure you get what you want eg services like BBBJ, Uniform, CIM  etc.... As i have found from my first days of this hobbie i tend to see a pretty girl on the website and  i just wanna bang her so desperately i forget about the service i want (BBBJ) and when i get there she is not willing to perform what i want....however many girls especially independent ones will list what services they offer on their websites but as for agency girls always when calling confirm with the receptionist that they offer what you want!!!

2. As said by you I never... ok a lie, i very rarely go for girls which have their faces blurred on their websites as i have been in many occasions when i have seen the girl i want and the services i want and  i head over there and find that the girl on the website is totally different to the girl i see infront of me.....you can just tell!!

3. As you already know that alot of pictures of WG's are photoshopped and that they can also be old in a sense taken over 5 years ago.... example of this was I saw a really really really pretty girl i wanted so much i didnt evey look at the price... u know that kind of girl you always wanted "supermodel" looking type.... anyway my gods saving grace was something happened so i couldnt go and see her.. so a few weeks later i checked on this website (dont worrry mate i will give you later) and find reading the reports saying she was shit and the pics were old and new pics was up and when i saw her new pics i was so relieved!!! So look for tell tale signs... such as glamourous settings in photos, the girl looks like a suppermodel etc.... but dont worry you will be able to spot theses.....

and now the good stuff u have been waiting for!!!

Ok in the whoring or as you would call in the mongering scene in London there are lots i mean lots of website but there are only 2 you will ever need..... 1. punternet.com and 2. captain69.com. However i have never been a great fan of captain69.com so i only ever use punternet.com...... trust me this is all you ever need to know its like sex141.com but 100 times bigger. Punterent is very useful and user friendly as you will find out and there are lots of things you can look for such as reports, registered establishments, forums etc but a quick user guide for you is as follows.... (especially if you like me wanna look at the goods straight away)

1. once in the site  click "enter punternet"
2. Then scroll down and click "field reports" these are the reports from fellow bros....
3. Then this is section is separated by 3 different catergories... index by name, index by location and index by author.... as u are new to this just click index by location...... but index by name is very useful as i will explain later. so for you (siklong69) click C for central london..... and magic as you can see there are over 6000 yes 6000 reports on WG just in central london.....
4. Once you see the reports (listed by dates....earliest first) there is also a link straight to the WG's webite..... fucking good or what!!

Have a look around mate you will find what you  want here..... oh as you have helped me so much mate here is something that i am sure you will like try this Kasumi girl..... she is on the reports if you cant find her she is on www.japanese-asian.co.uk she is meant to be very good as decribed by other bros.... however her face is blurred.... nice huh?? now you might understand when i say i rarely go for girls with blurred face pics....however i have never tried her as i said i am more into my English girls!!!

Oh just one more tip on this site for beginners once you have narrowed down the girls you like you can then search for them by "index by name" (step3 from above) then you can read the reports just for them..... trust me fellow bros this site is DYNAMITE and everyone should look on this site just to see how good it is..... Remember this site is set not for money but for information purpose for people like us!!!

Oh just one more thing as you would probably encounter anyway in London there is more and more "parties". this is a orgy or bangbang where an establishment will arrange about 8 girls and have about 10-15 customers ( like u and me).... a good and famous one is called ladymaramlades parties in central london..... use index by name to find this on punternet for more information. This place has very very high recommendations and is cheap about 150 pounds (2200 HKD) for 3 hours of shagging!! but this has never been my thing so i cant comment on this......... anyway enjoy mate and let me know if you need anymore help......

Oh 1 last thing dont ever go to Soho again as this place is shit and a rip off and for peolple who dont know where to get good WGS from..... abit like Mong Kok in HK.....

Thanks! Will check this out the next time I visit London.

Bro Playtime.....A fiver a beer...... ...

How are crackdowns on the asian WG scene......i know because a lot of ones i have used in the past are closed down and sourced some info from internet/papers etc...........
Seems the whole of UK too the way it looks especially the private ones....
Punternet is a good source for mongering info in the UK but i do feel there is alot of ads in it by WGs & pimps...As for Captain69.....its a paysite to read the reports......
Agree with you in Soho about mongering......very rough and you do feel intimidated in the area although i do find the less seedier areas of Soho, the bars/rest quite good to chill in...
Phonebooth cards......forget it!.....I thought these were cleaned up?

btw: Did you ever come across a Korean bar/rest/karaoke place near tottenham court road........? Lots of students which chill there and underground basement with rooms to sing/drink with very dim lights
No Wgs operate but who knows.......