She is still Madamme but without the "Great".....

hello, some of you may remember a report about me falling for a very sweet Thai WG back in February...

Well you can just call me the Titanic cause she is now well and truely my GF... she stopped working in April and even though I suspect she maybe have seen some old clients in the afternoon while i was at work, she continues to have me sunk.

She is currently back in Thailand as her visa run out, and I am supposed to go get her in a couple weeks and bring her back on a 'visitors visa'...

Aiya, well in light of anything better to do with my time and money, i am still going with the flow... I know it is going to end badly one day, well lets just say i have a strong feeling about this.

And yes she has tapped me considerably, $30K+ over the course of a few months, something about needing a new roof for her famly's house. So yeah... actually if I work out the  cost per shag, it seems quite reasonable... Once or twice a day, 5-6 days a week for two and a half months... hum... she has the sweetest little pussy you ever seen and it tastes sooooo good...

Where do i change my Username to TITANIC, ha ha...

Let her RIP ha ha...

Good luck to you bro!  At least you know that you are making a mistake, but sometimes sinking ships will fuck you up like that.

ha ha ha ha ha ...

yeah I maybe laughing now... but ...

Remember: Only about a third of an iceberg is visible above water...

Madness.

This is a business, would never complicate it with falling for one! Nearly happened a while back when I ran into an Escort I but had the previous night, in a Nightclub, she told me she was going with her friends, didn't believe her, called her bluff, there she was dancing away, very much so the center of attention.  I clocked her and genuinely had mixed feelings about what to do: I liked her, perhaps I should offer her a Cocktail?! And her friends?! She said she really liked me, and would love to get to know me, but it would be awkward as I knew what she really did... I remarked Post Coitus that it really didn't bother me and we should meet up! Here we were, no clock watching, but an open social setting, I won't lie, I genuinely thought she was cool and this might work...

I snapped out of it: she is not, mine, nowhere near, she is not my friend, but a paid professional, went up, tapped her on the shoulder, said hi, she introduced me to her friends, I walk away and never text her again.

This is just business, yet, we are all human, involving yourself at arms length with a working girl, maybe Drinks, at most Dinner is as far as one should stretch it: falling in love with her, definitely not.

To those who are falling: Be strong, don't contact her, just leave it alone: I guarantee she will not call you! (The aforementioned escort never did contact me, ever again)

but she calls me 5 times a day.

and if i dont call her its all crying and getting upset... and its genuine. Either that or she is deserving the OSCAR...

Well like it or not, this is what i am stuck with. I know quite a few guys who have converted WG's into wonderfull wives/girlfriends.  

Most of these girls are in this biz cause the are DIRT FUCKING POOR, and if you offer em a way out of that, and promise to take care of their family back home, then maybe it can work out.  

Thing is you have to be very very careful, cause some of em are just lazy cons who just want a free ride...

I think I got one of the DFP ones, but just to be sure I am having a PI check her out before this goes any further...

NOT ALL PUSSY IS CREATED EQUAL, ha ha...

Listen test3, don't let some guy you've never met, some guy you don't know well enough to judge whether he's even worth listening to or not, tell you how to live your life, tell you who to love. EH3 knows nothing about you and he knows nothing about your GF, yet he would like nothing better than to end your relationship. What does that tell you about the guy? People love to judge and they like nothing better than to meddle in other peoples' lives; and an anonymous forum is the perfect place to do that because the meddlers don't have any facts to impede facile judgment, and they don't have to deal with the consequences of their interference. Everybody in this forum thinks he's a fucking expert on everything.  

You don't owe anybody any excuses, and you have no reason to be defensive.

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 13-7-2008 22:08 ]

test3,

Good luck, I think you're gonna need it.

One of the major elements you need to make a marriage work is TRUST. Pure, 100%, absolutely no-doubts
trust. Like you've never trusted anyone in your life before.

You have these things to say:














I guess we can forget about trust. Another major element is LOVE.

You say:


You seem to believe she's marrying you because she's DFP and wants a way out. And you're almost certainly
100% correct. And what do you think is gonna happen when she's no longer DFP? You'll be history bro. And
a lot poorer and probably as bitter as hell.

It's not too late bro, think about it.

Actually bro, it's only 10%.

The interesting thing about advice is that the less you know about someone, the easier it is to tell him what to do with his life. And forums are great for this because, in addition to not knowing fuck-all about the real people involved, you can also use your advice to advance pet theories and settle old grudges. It's a great game, and if your advice results in fucking up somebody else's life, and you can't know that won't happen, you can just turn off the computer and spend a carefree afternoon walking the dogs in the park.

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 14-7-2008 02:18 ]

Jake, you have some good points, ones that I am very much aware of.  

Marsupial, also you have some good points and thanks for the support both of you.

My issue is with TRUST, but really I cannot trust any girl as before my ex's was always cheating. So many times I have a girl and then after some time she gets bitchy or whatever and then she just leave and you find out after that she been stoopin someone else. So really can we trust anyone?

If I look at it this way, then at least I know what I am getting, so no need to TRY to trust her... some of you gonna say, "this no way to live" but my experience has been what I already explain so...

As for her being DFP and then not, well i dont think that will ever happen cause if I was ever to marry this girl, (WHICH IS LONG WAY OFF), she will have to earn her bread with get a job (real job) and contribute to cost. Also she would have to sign a prenup so she knows that if she ever leave me she will not get very much anyways.  

Is any other brothers out there ever marry a WG and how did this go.  I like to hear any success stories?

You already don't trust her.  So according to Jake you are already on the losing end.  But if you want to dunk your head into the water in the name of love and just simply ignore the signs then it is your prerogative.  You say, you know it will end badly but yet you are still in it for LOVE not SEX.  I am with Jake, it is about trust from us to them.  There is a double standard obviously because Jake and I are chatting in this forum but I whole heartedly trust my wife simply because I do love her and believe that Jake does too.  You can do what you want but my stance on this subject is a definite NO NO because I am cynical like that.  I have no stats but if I were to guess, success rates between marrying Johns and whores are not that great because a majority of these Johns who think they have it in the pocket are actually getting played for money, emotions..etc...

sexpert, why on earth would you think that Jake loves your wife?!

wow Jake.....u seems to be a real gentleman and setimental over this week....talkin bout TRUST and LOVE..........

Really admired ur mood swing and u are so unpredictable.

Marsupial carries a very good point: we are but meddling with what should be a decision with far reaching consequence, and operating on incomplete intelligence. We can only acheive two things: to reassure, or to contradict.

We do not understand the gravity of the situation. By seeking the varied viewpoints of our peers we do not make better decisions: have read a study recently which supports this, something about instinct prevailing...

In any event: listen, read, hear, think, decision is yours.

I'm kinda like sexpert in this regard. Talkin about GFs/Wives and talkin about WGs is just a million miles apart.
I just can't even imagine thinking of them in the same way. WGs - no love, no trust - just a cheap, pleasureable
fuck.    

Bro, sorry to hear about your previous bad experiences with GFs but that's just a part of life and I don't think you
should give up and settle for a WG that you don't trust and don't love. I mean, what's the point? OK, she has a
sweet pussy now - but for how long?

Bro, I'm pretty sure every married man will agree that wives bring a shitload of problems. And there's got to be
some serious compensation - and I'm talkin about a lot more than just pussy.

No one has any doubts about how you and sexpert view WGs. The question is whether or not your advice has any value to someone who doesn't view these girls as you do? That fact that you might not be able to imagine loving any prostitute has no relevance whatsoever to someone who can or does feel love for a particular WG. It just fucking amazes me how you can reel of this intolerant bile as if it were the undeniable wisdom of the gods! If it were just a harmless political dispute, that would be one thing, but you presume to tell the guy to break up with someone he cares for because you can't imagine loving any WG.

Everybody has his pet opinions. There are guys here who will say married life is great. Others will say never get married because it brings nothing but heartache and grief. But only a fool would decide or not to marry a particular girl based on what some clown says in an anonymous forum about the institution of marriage.

When guys spout off on marriage, they're just expressing their personal experiences and prejudices. The advice you get in this forum on WGs is no different. Jake and sexpert are merely expressing a very deep-seated prejudice against prostitutes (or to use Jake's preferred term, "bitches"). They believe that any girl who sells her body for sex is not worthy of love, end of story! Everything else is just bullshit invented to convince themselves and others that their opinions are rational; but there is nothing rational about the belief that a WG can not make a good wife. Every time this topic comes up in the forums both Jake and sexpert betray the true reason underlying their feelings against WGs with the inevitable, "how can you love a girl who has had a thousand dicks in her." That is the sum total of their thinking on the subject, the only thing you need to know to assess the validity of their advice. The rest is just smoke and mirrors.

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 15-7-2008 00:36 ]

Bro, not for the frist time, you have TOTALLY missed the point of this thread and you're still discussing previous threads.
Try to keep up OK. In this thread I have never mentioned WGs. I don't intend to and I don't need to because test3 is
already smart enough not to trust this girl.

He already suspects her of fucking ex-clients while he's at work; he's gonna have her checked out by a PI and he's gonna
have her sign a prenup. So why are you preaching to me about how WGs are no different to any other girl - preach to test3.

The POINT is - a guy shouldn't even think about marrying a girl he doesn't trust 110%. And that's ANY girl, not just a WG.
And, for further clarity, we're not talking about me and sexpert not trusting WGs - were talking about test3 not trusting
this particular gal. Got it now?

So now maybe you can give us your reasons why test3 should think about marrying a girl he doesn't trust and doesn't even
seem to love. Forget the fact that's she's a WG. I don't know - maybe you think it's worth it for the free pussy.