Subject: Learning Mandarin
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Post at 16-11-2008 16:00  Profile P.M. 
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Learning Mandarin

Did some searching on the site and found that some threads talked about basic phrases in mandarin to use when talking to prc wgs but some may find it hard to pronounce with no fundamental mandarin learning background.

Found this site where one can listen and learn mandarin oral skills - http://www.standardmandarin.com/

Hope this helps to break that ice when talking to prc girls...
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Post at 16-11-2008 19:18  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 asia-play's post

i will check it out and see if it helps my mando... i kinda doubt this site will lead to kinkier sex with wg's... wtf? site isnt loading on my end???




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The site won't let you talk sexy to prc wgs...just an ice breaker.

Just checked the site and is down...
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Reply #2 5-htp's post

5-htp - Not sure if you had a time to visit the site that I suggested but its ok now
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Reply #1 asia-play's post

wondered for a moment if it's an ad ...

probably is ...

but actually does have a useful free bit - basic stuff, nothing you'd REALLY want to say but good for icebreaker.
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just google ' learn mandarin'

                  'speak mandarin'

                   'mandarin for beginners'

                    etc

im too lazy to learn. luckily mainland chinese girls often speak soem broken cantonese, and its more fun talking in sign language
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Post at 28-11-2008 07:48  Profile P.M. 
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its too much work to learn mandarin, I tried, then gave it up...hhe
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If Cantonese is your hard main language, it is very hard to truly learn Mandarin simply because you will revert back to speaking Cantonese at some point of the conversation.  If Cantonese is your second language, and English is your first, learning Mandarin through a college course is not hard at all.  That's how I learned it, that and dating tons of Mainland and Taiwanese girls.  I will never forget, de te ne le, bo po mo fo,... LOL.... those who learned Mandarin from scratch know exactly where I am coming from.
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Post at 28-11-2008 10:41  Profile P.M. 
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English is my first language while my spoken Cantonese is fine. But you're right, when I try to communicate in Mandarin, sometimes I have no idea what i'm trying to say myself.. haha, so I switch back to Cantonese, and then the girls have no idea what I'm saying.

But, while I do think knowing some Mandarin will help break the ice, sometimes, knowing none and trying to communicate in sign language or extremely broken english/cantonese can be fun. Sometimes they really do try hard to communicate with you and it ends up being playful which I like!
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Reply #8 sexpert's post

some words of mandarin sounds like hakka! i undsterstanf hakka, so sometimes can figure what they're saying!

mandarin is suppose to be the most difficult to learn for us cantonese people because its a tonal language!

a small change in pitch can lead to a differnt word meaning!


as cantonese already have 8 is it?? hence why its hard when we try mandarin and adapot another 4/5
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Post at 28-11-2008 12:03  Profile P.M. 
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didn't know that, I speak fluent Cantonese, maybe thats why I haven't fully got the mandarin down.  But my brother is pretty good in cantonese and mandarin...

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Originally posted by simplytheguest at 28-11-2008 10:54
some words of mandarin sounds like hakka! i undsterstanf hakka, so sometimes can figure what they're saying!

mandarin is suppose to be the most difficult to learn for us cantonese people because its  ...

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Mandarin was the first foreign language I studied; I thought it would be immensely difficult, but it turned out to to be the fairly painless. I thought Italian, my last language, would be easy and it turned out to be a real bitch. The reason being that Chinese grammar is remarkably simple: you only have a few verb tenses which are all formed in the same way. On the other hand, Italian, like most European languages, has an incredibly complex grammar with each verb declined into four distinct moods (indicative, subjunctive, conditional, imperative) with each mood having anywhere from 2 to 8 different tenses, many of which are irregular. To make matters worse, each noun has a gender that must always be remembered because of its effect on modifiers. The form of half the words in an average Italian sentence will vary depending on grammatical function.

To anyone used to the complexity of European languages, Chinese has no grammar to speak of; everything is determined by word order and the word order is similar to English. I understand that Chinese students receive very little instruction in grammar, whereas in the West, grammar is hammered into us almost every year of secondary school.

There is a necessary technique to learning a foreign language. Speaking a language is a behavior, an action, something you do. You can't learn to speak a new language only browsing websites, reading books, or sitting passively in class, any more than you can learn to play tennis or ride a bike by watching a video. That is why all these expats living in HK, Japan, etc. never learn to speak the local language in spite of hearing it spoken all around them for 30 yrs. You can only acquire these skills by actually doing them, and because language is a tremendously complex behavior, it takes a LOT of time and practice. That said, anyone can pick up a language if you go about it in the proper way, but most don't, get discouraged and give up.

I had 3 years of intense college-level instruction in the States before moving to Taiwan, but when I arrived in Taiwan, in spite of knowing the proper Chinese terms for things like 'industrialization' and 'consumer', I didn't understand what people were saying when they asked me simple things like if I'd eaten yet. After 6 mths in Taiwan, I learned far more than in those 3 yrs in the States with professional teachers, and I learned it just chatting with Chinese friends. It is instructive to note here that the foreign students who studied with me in Taiwan can be divided into two groups: one group lived among the Chinese, using Chinese, and picked up the language quickly; the other group lived in apts with 4 or 5 other English-speaking foreigners and found GFs/BFs who also spoke English - these people never learned to speak Chinese well, and after 2 yrs the difference between the two groups was night and day.

If you can already read Chinese, these two websites provide useful tools for learning to speak Mandarin.

http://www.pthxx.com/index.html

http://pth.linqi.org/pyzd_biaozhu.html




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Reply #12 Marsupial's post

so what is your first language???
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Originally posted by simplytheguest at 30-11-2008 09:58
so what is your first language???

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