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#1 Post at 5-9-2011 02:25  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L Caught with two girls in flat? Hi Trying to search the forum but not able to find anything. What happens if i get caught visiting a 1 wg , but there are two working wgs in the same flat? Ie two wgs are sharing a flat? Thanks

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#2 Post at 5-9-2011 04:30  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L You won't be in trouble but the girls will be in deep s.ht. Recent Ratings DaBestHK   5-9-2011 07:48   Acceptance   -2   are you absolutely sure?

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#3 Post at 5-9-2011 07:51  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L QUOTE: Originally posted by evilpanda at 5-9-2011 04:30 You won't be in trouble but the girls will be in deep s.ht. please do not give legal advice unless you're qualified to do so. from Wikipedia: Under Hong Kong law, it is also illegal to organize arrangement of sex deals for more than one woman; violators are subject to a HK$20,000 fine and seven years' imprisonment.[8] Therefore, if two women are found serving customers in the same apartment, it is an illegal brothel. This gives rise to the so-called "one-woman brothel" where one woman receives customers in her apartment, which is restricted by Section 141, which prohibits young persons to engage in prostitution.[17] This is the most common form of legal prostitution in Hong Kong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Hong_Kong from our own forum: http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... &extra=page%3D1 see posts 2, 3 and 6 Recent Ratings Petay_1283   6-9-2011 10:30   Acceptance   +1   The first thing you learn in Law is do not trust Wikipedia lol but you are right ...

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#4 Post at 5-9-2011 07:57  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L so walkups and hotel in calls are perfectly legal in hk?   didn't know that if it's true.

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#5 Post at 5-9-2011 09:06  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L Reply #3 DaBestHK's post Thanks for the reply so only the girls wull be in trouble? How about the clients? And how come places like 37d and kp are ok? Or am understanding it incorecctly? Post 2 and 3 says more than 1 girl in a room not apartment...but then poat 6 contradicts where it says Premises Thanks any answer appreciated

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#6 Post at 5-9-2011 15:11  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L I do think you will have problems as customer. 2 wg in same flat is illegal, and you went to that "illegal" flat. You cannot pretend you thought the girl was rich enough to live alone in a whole flat with 2 rooms. But it's sure the girls will be in deep shit. An article about a HK feminists group : You will be caught if you work together CRIMES ORDINANCE 200 - SECT 139 Keeping a vice establishment Penalty : Maximum penalty of fine $20,000 and imprisonment of 7 years Illustration (3) Close friend Ah Lan wants to work free lance from an individual apartment (“one apartment one woman”). Ah Hua rents out one of her rooms to her, so that both can share the rent of the flat. One day, an undercover police engages the service of Ah Lan, and discovers that another woman is working from the same flat. Ah Lan is then caught, and charged for keeping a vice establishment. Acts that breach the law : l     Having more than one woman conduct sex trade within the same premise. l     Customer or sex worker or anyone can be a witness to testify that sex trade was conducted on the premise. l     Assisting in management : e.g a person collecting money or directing customer to a room may also be caught under this provision. Caution : Although the law is usually used against bigger operations, sex workers who work from home or rented apartment have to be careful of how they use the premises to prevent breaching the law. According to the Crime Ordinance 200 Sect 153 ” Seizure and forfeiture in respect of vice establishment”, the police have the power on the direction of the court to seize and forfeit any item found at the vice establishment, and have power to close up premises which violate Sect 139, 143, 144 or 145.

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#7 Post at 5-9-2011 19:59  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L QUOTE: Originally posted by marcopo at 9/5/11 02:11 AM One day, an undercover police engages the service of Ah Lan, and discovers that another woman is working from the same flat. If two people share a flat much like cab drivers share driving a taxi cab [one person at a time] then this is illegal?!? QUOTE: Originally posted by marcopo at 9/5/11 02:11 AM Assisting in management : e.g a person collecting money or directing customer to a room may also be caught under this provision. There may be some gray areas if you say recommend your neighbor.  There may be some implied kickback between the WG's but after reading this then as long as it is not a direct fee for referral then it should be OK in my book. Bend Over Here It Comes Again...

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#8 Post at 6-9-2011 01:19  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L So is it okay to have a threesome with two WGs?

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#9 Post at 6-9-2011 08:57  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L Reply #8 fjackass's post No idea how you came to that conclusion ... I guess as long as you don't pay them - if it's a hookup with two GFs, on private premises that are not (ever) used for paid sex - it would fall outside the broad scope of the ordinance.   Otherwise, make sure neither you nor they are caught, under surveillance, or reported by neighbours ... Hear Ye!  The Mayor has spoken!

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#10 Post at 6-9-2011 09:48  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L QUOTE: Originally posted by bohica at 5-9-2011 19:59 If two people share a flat much like cab drivers share driving a taxi cab  then this is illegal?!? I think it's illegal. It's far to be comparable to cab drivers. Instead of saying prostitution is legal, I'd better say that it is tolerated on the edge. QUOTE: Originally posted by bohica at 5-9-2011 19:59 There may be some gray areas if you say recommend your neighbor.  There may be some implied kickback between the WG's but after reading this then as long as it is not a direct fee for referral then it should be OK in my book. Guess you're correct. As long as there is not referral fee, and that the girl is not "solliciting" for herself, it seems to be OK.

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#11 Post at 6-9-2011 23:31  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L Reply #6 marcopo's post Second this post btw. Not 2 WG's same flat, not even if split into separate bedsits..then there's precedents about what constitutes partition walls etc but basically that's it.

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#12 Post at 7-9-2011 02:42  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L QUOTE: Originally posted by DaBestHK at 5-9-2011 07:51 which is restricted by Section 141 So that's where the name of this site comes from.  I always wondered about that. $20k HKD...Seven Years?  Ouch.  A 3 way with WG just dropped off my things to do in HK.

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#13 Post at 7-9-2011 09:49  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L QUOTE: Originally posted by blakerighter at 7-9-2011 02:42 $20k HKD...Seven Years?  Ouch.  A 3 way with WG just dropped off my things to do in HK. The penalty stated is for the girls who got caught, not for customers.. But as it's so heavy for the prostitutes, I guess the customer can't get away without penalties.

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#14 Post at 7-9-2011 13:41  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L QUOTE: Originally posted by sexybastard at 5-9-2011 07:57 so walkups and hotel in calls are perfectly legal in hk?   didn't know that if it's true. No. This thread is talking about "one floor one" walk-ups, not hotel girls. Hotel girls are illegal in that they are PRC girls here on tourist visas, thus workng illegally. My penis mightier than the sword

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#15 Post at 11-9-2011 04:01  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L well.. honestly PRC girls that are working in HK is "practically" illegal.. cause they do not posses a working visa.. but since Hong kong is now part of China ......... would your passport be stamped! hmmmmm just slightly off topic... but its still about China.. I have heard if you monger in china and get caught.. YOUR PASSPORT would be chopped? Why would the chinese authority want to do that and humilate that particular person the is going to have fun? well.. i have just heard but not sure how this thing works.. can anyone confirm this as well.. then wouldnt it not be "SO SAFE" for us to punt.. imagine a major embarrassment from the immigration in your own country while checking in? Regards

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#16 Post at 11-9-2011 04:35  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L Reply #15 exit11967's post I would take the risk with 2 WG in HK. It just feels much safer than being caught with  1 WG in China and risk being put in jail for 15 days.   No more chops on your passport as I hear....

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#17 Post at 12-9-2011 13:49  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L QUOTE: Originally posted by exit11967 at 11-9-2011 04:01 honestly PRC girls that are working in HK is "practically" illegal.. cause they do not posses a working visa.. but since Hong kong is now part of China ......... would your passport be stamped! PRC girls need to apply for an entry-permit to come to HK for "visit". And working in HK for them is really illegal, why just "practically" ? Actually, it is easier for a foreigner than for a PRC to come to HK for visit or work. QUOTE: Originally posted by exit11967 at 11-9-2011 04:01 Why would the chinese authority want to do that and humilate that particular person the is going to have fun? I don't know if they chop your passport, but I wouldn't find it unbelievable (from China). First, because prostitution is illegal in China, so it's normal they will sentence you. Second, they will be happy to humiliate you so that you don't do it again. I understand Chinese people may feel humiliated to see foreigners coming to their country to fuck their girls, they don't want their country to be seen as a Whores house. QUOTE: Originally posted by exit11967 at 11-9-2011 04:01 then wouldnt it not be "SO SAFE" for us to punt.. imagine a major embarrassment from the immigration in your own country while checking in? It's not safe to punt in China, it's never good to play with Chinese authorities. Getting a shame chop in your passport is not the worse you can get. As already discussed in another thread, you may be sent to jail directely.

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#18 Post at 17-9-2011 01:31  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L LOL..... OMG.. JAIL sentence is a bit too much... Now I am scared.. I remember the times when I read reports that only Viet people try to con you over with money when they supply you with underaged women and then the women call the cops to catch you... Well... Now its even worst.. So how is it safe to punt in China.. You know most men tell me China is a good place to go for cheap sex and beautiful women ahhaha Oh well.. having second thoughts now..

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