Not exactly sure if this has been done before but I recently came across 2 WGs that seemed (90% sure) to have STDs and some bros suggested a list of these WGs to be made so here are the two that I encountered. ( I didnt get anything off them apart from a couple of sleepless nights before I got my tests back)

Sheung Wan.  
A regular of mine told me that she is in fact a carrier of Herpes.   So dont go near her ever again, there is no cure for herpes.
To read up on Herpes -----> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex

Tsuen Wan.  
She had cauliflower growing out of her anus, for more details check out "Anal warts" in the chat section.  No cure for genital warts either.  
To read up on Anal warts  ------> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genital_warts

[ Last edited by  Tyral at 12-6-2009 11:10 ]

There's been wide spread talk of the WG in Sheung Wan but you do not have proof
that she has STD, nor do you have proof for the second WG you listed.

I am editing the names out from your post.

what kind of proof do you need?  Do i need to have contacted STDs from the WG to be proof and just out of interest, Twiceaweek what kind of proof do you require I mean apart from getting the STDs, should I ask the WG's to fill in a form saying "Yes I am dirty, dont fuck me" or maybe find her doctor and get the doctor to disclose confidential doctor patient information?  I count myself lucky to have been to those WGs and still be clean but I guess thats no proof for it.    I saw the wart with my own eyes, but if you dont want them to know which WG, then I guess bros will just have to find out the hard way, good luck mongering.

[ Last edited by  Tyral at 12-6-2009 11:08 ]

Very caring of you to share this among the bros....
But maybe harmful to the gal business.

Since this forum is owned and is part of (well admin may claim it is separate) the 141 ad DB, anything discrediting the gals in the DB might have a commercial impact to the owner and the gal.

So, you can share with fellow bros via pm, private chat. For time being, we know which districts to stay away from......

Once I have a reliable intel confirming one gal with HIV positive and I got banned trying to share in Chinese forum. Don;t worry bout English forum, we are love to hear warnings and bad news..........

[ Last edited by  hunter at 12-6-2009 11:53 ]

well, guess u guys are right about ruining business so, if bros wanna know which girl then PM me.

I agree on this, if some wgs that have std should been known by the bros on this forums, im pretty sure tyral isnt just putting up names if the names of the wgs did not come up on this forums more then once. But i see what twice is trying to say, there is no prof of the 2 names that came up. But at the same time disagree with twice because i think that fellow bros on this forums should be aware of certain girls that try to spreed there fucked up virus just to earn a extra couple hundred buck. But you should put "if any bros want to know then please pm me" do it in PM that way no one would be offended" Just dont put it in the open topic. Thanks for sharing though

[ Last edited by  bmfknw852 at 12-6-2009 12:08 ]

Nobody needs to present any hard evidence or proof, this is not a court room.
It doesn't matter as long as the intel comes from credible source(s).....
Better Be Safe Than Sorry!!!...........

There are still so many WGs out there.....we can go fcuk elsewhere.

But I do not disagree that we bros should warn each other via private mails / pms.

Putting up names of the gals might be a bit tricky and u will be inviting a lot of queries, argurment and hooligans who just want to discredit us.

I knew when I took the names out I would get a lot of neg comments !

This issue can be thoroughly debated but i can tell you the outcome ...

The admin of this forum gives moderators a lot of latitude in running this English forum, and we in turn
have given members free speach with few limitations.
I do know if the Admin had to intervene he would do what I did or maybe even delete this thread !

OK, now to answer your comments ...

As part of this brotherhood I myself would like to know if a WG has any form of STD
but I need to decide if the info I read is credible or not (I'm not talking about you).

Recent case in point is, few months ago some idiot wrote a report on how he contacted some STD from one
of the girls and it turned out that he was trying to ruin her business because he wanted her for himself.

Now, for this girl you reported on in SW, you said a regular told you she had herpies ...
without proof, the only thing you could say is she is dangerous because she does not practice safe sex !

For the girl in TW, yes you saw the wart but do you know is it a genetal wart ?
No action was taken to your thread on anal warts because you reported what you saw,
but in this thread you are trying to tell us she has genital wart which you cannot confirm !

I think if a bro has concerns about a certain WG because he contacted some
from of STD form her, he has the right to report this here as its based on his fact.
I also believe if he bro can confirm that a got STD from a certain girl he should report it to the authorties !
... but I don't believe this has ever happened !

To create a list of WGs suspected of carrying STD is not going happen in this forum !

[ Last edited by  twiceAweek at 12-6-2009 13:06 ]

Wasn't there a thread many months ago, where it seemed that some asshole was accusing a WG of having a disease because he had a grudge against her?

A special section of the forum devoted to naming supposedly diseased WGs would be subject to all kinds of abuse: hearsay, mistaken diagnoses, willful slander. And how could anyone falsely accused speak out in her own defense?

And frankly, I've read so many dumb things written about STDs in this forum, that I would seriously question the accuracy of anything posted here by some unknown dude.

So the potential harm done by such a thread FAR outweighs any benefit that might come from it.

Not to mention that it would probably open up the site owners to a law suit.

Sorry Tyral, but however well intentioned, yours is one very bad idea!

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 12-6-2009 15:31 ]

I'm pretty sure that a herpes epidemic amongst the punters in HKG would be REALLY bad for business. Much more so than blacklisting a couple of suspected WGs.

I'm not sure how to get the message across the sex141 owners that it's better to cull the heard of disease than protect the ones that will infect everyone, but that message is useful and valid.

I think that incurable STDs should be a cause for delisting, and that a reasonable quid pro quo for safety vs. commercial viability would be an official way to submit a suspected WG directly via the sex141.com website. When that happens it should flag her DB entry until she gets tested and can show a clean bill of health. Maybe there should even be a field showing how many days it's been since each girl submitted a negative STD report.

I think that this approach would be GREAT for business, it adds value, forces health screenings, and reduces risk for the customers. When risk is reduced, business increases.

-G

Herpes Epidemic?!

More herpes hysteria. Most of us (us being the human race) already have herpes but aren't aware of it.

Posting a few pics of the most extreme cases of a disease that is everywhere, dormant, and more often than not has no visible symptoms, does nothing but feed the hysteria.

So, should we call you "witch-hunt GARY" from now on? Bro they should never put you in a position where you have any kind of political power over others.

What Tyral wants is a court with no defense lawyer, the coroner has never been to med school, all hearsay evidence is good enough for a conviction, and there is no possibility of appeal.

This I agree and in fact everyone has a certain level of STD in our body. If any of you ever done a blood test, you should see that STD level is either acceptable, low or above threshold (Let me check this tonite in my report on the actual medical terms used).
I remember my doc advised me ..."all of us have it, but just not serious and above the tolerable level, just use condom and safe sex".



Edit - STD reading:

The term used in the report is

Herpes Simplex Type II IgG

Negative <=0.90
Equicvocal <= 0.91 - 0.99
Positive += 1.00

Heck, I don;t how my doc measures this but my level was 0.31, phew...............I'm ok!!

[ Last edited by  hunter at 13-6-2009 13:39 ]

If you must, then go right ahead with the name calling.

Upon reflection, I don't think that it's too much to ask that the WGs listed show an STD test to the sex141 operators so they can add a "Clean STD test on: XX-XX-XXXX" to each of the profiles. There's no issue of singling out anyone that way, and it would curtail unwitting transmission of all STDs. Anyone who didn't get tested regularly (something that they SHOULD be doing anyway as a sex worker) would weed themselves out anyway, since punters would shy away from WGs with out of date test results.

-G

Perhaps, the "witch-hunt Gary" quip was a tad unfair.

But from your suggestions, I don't think you understand this site's precarious legal position here in HK. Sex141 is a business, and the owners are naturally anxious to keep as low a profile as possible. There is a history of legal problems here that you are probably unaware of.

Gary ... I don't agree with anything you have said in this thread ... not one single thing !

In effect, what you're saying is for members of this forum, through the forum, to report to the authorities
on suspected WGs ????

You are also saying that WG's have to take mandatory tests ... give it to this site and this site to keep records
of these tests on the DB ???

The HK government has none of these requirements and you are asking this site to be a de facto health authority ???

Out of the 8 years I've spent in the 141 forum ... Chinese and English,
I believe there have been less then a handful of confirmed cases reporting catching STD from a WG in HK !
and even these confirmation were from anonymous but credible bros !

Even this WG in SW ... the one who bros repeatedly tell us she doesn't practise safe sex ... has there been anyone
reporting that she gave them STD ?

You have mongered here before, have you ever asked for certificates of health from the girls ?

I think we all need to be realistic and think of more rational ways of approaching this problem !

[ Last edited by  twiceAweek at 12-6-2009 16:17 ]

WG get STD test done on Monday morning.
Monday night, she gets infected by a customer.
Tuesday she gets report result and she posts on 141... "Clean STD test: XX-XX-XXXX"
Happy punters go visit her, thinking she is nice and clean.

i think STD comes part and parcel with mongering.
We don't want it, but there's always the risk.

Exposing the WG to the public isn't too fair to her.
STD just happens to be her job hazard.

What if a customer has some STD, the WG sees it, chases him out of the room, takes his picture from the door's viewcam, print it out, post the photos all over 141 flats to warn fellow WGs?
That's not something we want.

But of course the WG has the right to share info or photo of that STD guy with her closest WG friends.

Just like what we should do here.
See a wart? PM your punting buddies. As simple as that.

I agree with several arguments put forward opposing the name/shame, "black-list", compulsory testing/listing, etc., but IMO Mars and Twice sum it up pretty well.

We are all adults and should be aware of the risks and take our own personal measures to be as safe as we feel necessary. Condom use is promoted on this site and I have seen many postings where Bros will avoid a WG that a reliable and trusted  member has advised has a habit of providing bareback FS.

A compulsory system managed by 141 to test and publish results is absurd and unworkable. Even if this could be done, it  may have a negative outcome whereby some mongerers seek out the "clean" WGs and pressure them for unprotected FS in the false "confidence" they have no risk.

In this age of HIV I have only had one WG propose no condom for FS, several "equipment" failures have resulted in very upset and alarmed WGs, one even cried. I mention this as IMO the WGs are just as concerned as us for safe sex.

Even new to this forum, I have even tried Dan Dan in SW and she did both BBJ and then laster CG with raincoat.

I am sure that the WG is much most aware of STD and HIV. And nobody force you to f*ck w/o a condom. I have see some of you write that you even bring your own condoms.

After 35 years in Asia I have get bugs. And only 2 times. One time in Pataya and on time in Temple Street here i HK.

My friend 35 years ago did not use condom. He get Saigon Rose in Pataya and ended up in
hospital and his wife divorse him.

So I think the whole thing with STD is ridiculous.  And if anybody can report any girl you
can easaly hurt any WG business for other reasons.

I therefor agree to 200% that the names and the links shall be deleted if any report on STD and a WG.

The risc of missuse of this forum is high since we never know who is behind a report.

Thanks S, re Dan Dan I think you are saying she did oral without condom but suited up for penetrative sex? If so I see no issue.

I thought health checks were a good idea, but I see the kaka's point that it's not going to make a difference regardless of how timely the report is.

Twice, I wasn't really asking for mandatory tests, but I see how competitive pressure would virtually make it so.

OK, I'll stand down...

-G