far out why did you only stay 25 minutes for allowing hunter ? LOL performance anxiety?

just for fun, i ran the Apple Daily article thru Chrome's auto-translation, it's poetic...
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Anti-vice police command center pound prostitution
September 16, 2011
By Wu Dao

Police yesterday's "knee hit" neutralize a computerized prostitution, a residential unit in Tsing Yi uncovered group's command center, the backbone of the arrest of three members, seized more than 230,000 yuan in cash and telephone. Group survey found that the monthly turnover of up to 400 million, while more than in Tsuen Wan and Tsim Sha Tsui hotels, arrested 12 suspected prostitutes prostitution Mainland and Thailand.

Arrested three men (26-37 years) suspected of "managing a vice establishment" and "earnings of prostitution of others living", detained overnight. Three in Thailand and nine mainland women (19 to 25 years), suspected of "breach of condition of stay," later to pay the Immigration Department.

It is reported that the prostitution ring have gang backgrounds, has been active for six months, they first look for prostitutes in mainland China and Thailand to arrange their travel documents, passport, etc. to come. After arriving to take sexy photos Po put pornographic sites to solicit business on behalf of the hotel reservation, along with phone numbers, meat and gold ranging from 700 to $ 1,000, the Group accounted for Liu Cheng. Group also offers sex toys to prostitutes. Police said the pick up prostitutes daily from 5 to 15, an average of 10 passengers, 12 prostitutes monthly turnover up to 400 million.

Place a phone call arranged time
Group arrangements for a prostitute in a hotel room per person per stay, when clients call the reservation, call-forwarding to the command center, business center computer has a record of the prostitutes, "make a phone call, you know Drainage Die trading session location, and whether to make an appointment the time, or again scheduling, etc., both good systems. " Group cautious members of the hotel to receive a daily turnover when a prostitute, are out of a taxi to avoid the eyes and ears.

New Territories South Regional Crime Unit of the police a month ago by intelligence traced and found the group's command center is located in a residential unit Mayfair Garden, Tsing Yi, the prostitutes are located in Tsim Sha Tsui and Tsuen Wan four four-star hotel over ten room.

Police sent undercover to help take advantage of the earlier batch of "hotel prostitute" to obtain important clues, yesterday to take called "knee hit" action. Officers at 12:35, first caught up with the target unit Mayfair Gardens, the house arrest of three men and seized 230,000 yuan in cash, three computers, 20 mobile phones, cards and dozens of space into several paper; another group of officers were the target to Tsim Sha Tsui and Tsuen Wan hotel room raided, arrested 12 prostitutes.

Newspaper yesterday afternoon browsing pornographic websites and found that more than one "hotel reservations" in advertising prostitution, with prostitutes photos, information and reservation phone measurements, including two in Tsuen Wan District "Hotel Women" advertising, the investigating officers do not rule out the two women syndicates are smashed, the reporter want to call the phone according to the advertisement "undercover", but the phone has been unreasonable.

That's the thing though - everyone knows about the 141 site and how it works. So why do they only bust the raid once in a blue moon?

Heck - I'm certain some of the police force have used um...services...before?

Looking at the appledaily screenshot, I'm surprised that ppl are punting at 3-7am in the morning?! I thought services stop at 2am? Kudos to bro cheung for his big tool hahaha!! Wonder what other notes the HGs pass on?!

From what I THINK I know, and from previously chatting about this with quite a senior LE friend on the subject:

Basically, the approach of the Hong Kong LE is to not fix what ain't broken too badly - too much other things to worry about; This being the case, they're quite happy to have one eye open one eye closed as far as prostitution is concerned - even SUPPOSEDLY designating the Mongkok area and certain buildings/enclaves in the territory as being OK to exist; Just don't be doing things excessively and definitely don't allow problems to spill out to HAVE TO FORCE THEM to do something about it.

In fact, to go one step further, he told me that to a large extent, organized crime in Hong Kong (like in Japan as a perfectly good example) goes a long way to keep Civil order here; the reasoning being that organized crime wants and NEEDS to do business with the general populace for them to be able to make money; so its in their best interest to "self-patrol" their own areas/businesses to make it a safe and enjoyable experience for the general populace. Things like NOT allowing druggies, pickpockets, muggers, scam artists etc to bother John Q Public in their pursuit of patronizing the actual business of organized crime.

Anyway, I digress - I THINK what happened is that the Tsing Yi operation just got too big and too profitable for them to keep turning a blind eye - and perhaps even that there were complaints from guests of hotels etc (Tourists!! One of the Pillars of Hong Kong business!!) and thus they had to do something. Notice that some here have reported that there are now requirements for registration/key card etc in some hotels - perhaps another ploy they (whoever they are!!) have enacted to control the trade a bit better?!

Like I said, just pure speculation on my part - but a good topic for a lazy Saturday afternoon?! LOL!
SEAJ

form an outsider's perspective, i believe its a publicity stunt
authorities are simply flexing their muscle to show (society) that they're still in charge and on top of things
they've carefully picked a syndicate to make an example of them
certainly don't think its at random, perhaps hitting two birds with one stone
where there 'may' have been (a) complaint(s) in regards to this party in particular
and they've been victimized by random

its certainly the case here in australia where authorities were clamping down on hoons
in particular the import scene because the other 'big boys' where fuming as their car sales were plumting
and customers were acquiring imports as they were more cost effective for performance
at the same time, (and i know this for a fact) state government had (back then) just purchased a whole swag of new speed cameras
and needed excuses to install them at random locations
i can vouch for my sources as i actually know of the guy who took the state governments order for the cameras
they made a mint!

my 2c

IMO

Someone didn't pay protection fee

What with this fascination/fixation of yours about "protection Money?"
This is not the first time I've read you writing accusing such.

I find it very disturbing that you now make these statements about Hong Kong.

Do you have irrefutable evidence?
Do you have any basis for making such statements?
Do you live in Hong Kong?
Do you know that much about Hong Kong?

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 18-9-2011 01:42 ]

No one has "evidence" and neither do I.  My "opinion" is based on the fact that there is a lot of money involved in this business and passing some to the right people will likely happen if thats what it takes to keep the business going. Anyone in this business has to be aware of the ever present LE threat and will grease a few palms along the way if that is what is required. Not unheard of. Could be some other reason, who really knows.

What do you think might have caused this SEAJ?

Ahhh...So..... just another uninformed opinion/your trademark blithe remark!

We in Hong Kong are quite proud of the fine work being done by our Independent Commission Against Corruption and the fine tradition for the past few decades of quite clean government.  Yes of course corruption still happens some times - but I (and I think most other Hong Kongers) do get upset when claims such as yours gets aired.

All your supposition are just that and deserves to be challenged and exposed for its total fallacy - which is what I am doing.

So please, next time PRIOR to going around posting trite remarks FOR WHATEVER REASON, please consider first that such blithe remarks may actually cause offense to others here.

Thank you.
SEAJ

I was actually going to call James for some Fun time myself, do you bros think he will leave and be unscathed? Or will he be deleted back to PRC? Thanks

Any precedents on previous raids where the agent/computer was also confiscated?

In the category of learning something new everyday - I just Wiki'd your term "Hoons" and this is what I got - if anybody else is interested:


Perhaps that's what it is - we've got Hoons on sex141!
LOL

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 18-9-2011 13:43 ]

*off topic*

...lol...
i don't think ppl are anti-social on this forum
certainly there are pessimist, optimist, incoherent, coherent, charming, deluded, convoluted, opportunist, capitalist, cynical, generous and many other facets available
makes poignant read at times and never fail to entertain
many reasons why i personally frequent to pass time
i'm sure you'll agree, this is by no means a hostile environment to be in

well, the article says the group has been operating for 6 months, but james has been in business for a few years now.

Punters are safe. They are not out to get the punters anyway, they will at most ask you for a statement.

remember, James got shut down before, and his team split up and formed their own operations... so it is quite accurate that James restarted his organization a few months ago

So the possibility that amongst the various splintered groups there may have been dissension/conflict and one putting the word out about the other one?

SEAJ

I think some of these statements can be applied anywhere... not just HK. In reference to your specific questions Joe...

(1) Do you have irrefutable evidence?
That it happens in HK? In terms of money, goods, privileges?
YES. Not necessarily talking about paying LE or Govt. However for things to run smoothly, the right people need to be considered and when they are over looked pressure comes to bare. However, do I have irrefutable evidence that it was the specific cause of this specific raid. No.

(2) Do you have any basis for making such statements?
YES. See (1) above.

(3) Do you live in Hong Kong?
No. And actually I don't believe relevant in this case.

(4) Do you know that much about Hong Kong?
Well some would say because I don't live in HK and because I am not Chinese I don't know much about HK... however the answer to a question such as this really is a matter of opinion rather than a statement of fact.

I also know that in Beijing late 2009, a change in key government personal saw the "new guy" arrive with a point to prove and subsequently much to my frustration the chain of Mongolian girls Ulanbataar >>> Beijing >>> Shen Zhen >>> HK was broken. As I am sure you know too well Joe, that can also be an explanation.

About 10 years ago, I was walking through the Mong Kok market looking for Nintendo games for my son. There were none to be found. I asked a few people who are involved in the area and I had gotten to know quite well what the problem was and they explained Nintendo had complained and a RAID was due. So I replied "fine but the place is full of Levis, Billabong, Ferrari, Man. Utd etc... what about that?" to which he smiled at my naivety and said "that's OK... they didn't complain this time".

[ Last edited by  TonyToro at 19-9-2011 08:32 ]

Can any brother ID what some of these 4 star hotels are?  I like to stay along Nathan Road when I am in town and I am wondering about what hotels I might also be using the same as some of these girls.