Subject: Might have STD
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Post at 19-11-2011 10:47  Profile P.M. 
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The risk of transmission from oral sex based on statistics I read before is very low.
For it to happen, the girl giving you the BBBJ must have been bleeding or coughing out blood. It is not transmittable through saliva so you might want to rethink what other girls/activities you have been doing.

Anyway, what's done is done. I am sorry to hear your situation but life will go on. I also think the girl's name should be disclosed since it shouldn't be kept a secret for the sake of all the bros here.
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Originally posted by robotto at 15-10-2011 14:51
Chlamydia is curable with antibiotics so not too much to worry about.

Only when it is not too late and you are suitable to take the prescriptions, so anyone who suspects of having it should quickly see the doctor.
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Post at 19-11-2011 11:03  Profile P.M. 
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For HSV-1/2, it is enough with saliva even with no symptoms of a rash. If someone has a STD, spreading it is easy.
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Post at 20-11-2011 00:33  Profile P.M. 
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Originally posted by owen10 at 19-11-2011 10:47
The risk of transmission from oral sex based on statistics I read before is very low.

True. And, even less for giving oral rather than receiving oral.

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Anyway, what's done is done. I am sorry to hear your situation but life will go on. I also think the girl's name should be disclosed since it shouldn't be kept a secret for the sake of all the bros here.

Why should her name be disclosed? She clearly had oral HSV-1. 80 to 90 percent of the regular Chinese population has oral HSV-1.
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Originally posted by Nudiesn at 19-11-2011 11:03
For HSV-1/2, it is enough with saliva even with no symptoms of a rash. If someone has a STD, spreading it is easy.

Not true, Nudiesn. To my knowledge, no STDs are transferred by saliva. HSV, particularly, will require vigorous skin to skin contact, which is why the transmission potential is much higher for intercourse rather than something more passive like genital-to-genital apposition.
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Originally posted by HH34 at 20-11-2011 00:33


True. And, even less for giving oral rather than receiving oral.



Why should her name be disclosed? She clearly had oral HSV-1. 80 to 90 percent of the regular Chinese population has oral HSV-1. ...

Are you saying the risk of getting HSV-1 (Or including HSV-2?) is less giving oral than being on the receiving end? As to say, giving oral on a girl is less risky than getting oral from a girl?
Yes, you are correct, I misread about HSV-2. Thanks.

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Are you saying the risk of getting HSV-1 (Or including HSV-2?) is less giving oral than being on the receiving end?

Yeah. And, the consequences might be considered comparatively less severe. If you were to contract HSV-1 from performing cunnilingus then it would result in you getting cold sores like 80 to 90 percent of the regular Chinese population. And, if you recall, once a person has antibodies for the specific type of HSV, then it is very difficult to contract the same virus type in a different location. In a high oral HSV-1 population like China, very few regular girls or WGs will have genital HSV-1 because they are likely to already have oral HSV-1 contracted from childhood. Thus, if you don't already have oral HSV-1 antibodies then receiving oral sex will be somewhat of a risk from any girl in China. And, it makes the idea of disclosing that this WG has oral HSV-1 absolutely preposterous.

HSV-2 is possible but extremely unlikely for oral sex in either direction.

And, just to clarify, there is no real difference between the inherent transmission potential of HSV-1 or HSV-2 (i.e., neither are transmitted by saliva). The difference simply relates to how often each type will shed virus outside the presence of lesions in either location.

And, if you are this concerned about HSV then I might put off any mongering. You'll just drive yourself nuts after any exposure.
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I see. That is true.

http://www.umm.edu/patiented/art ... mitted_000052_3.htm

To infect people, the herpes simplex viruses (both HSV-1 and HSV-2) must get into the body through broken skin or a mucous membrane, such as inside the mouth or on the genital area. Each virus can be carried in bodily fluids (saliva, semen, fluid in the female genital tract) or in fluid from herpes sores

Oral herpes is easily spread by direct exposure to saliva or even from droplets in breath. Skin contact with infected areas is enough to spread it. Transmission most often occurs through close personal contact, such as kissing. In addition, because herpes simplex virus 1 can be passed in saliva, people should also avoid sharing toothbrushes or eating utensils with an infected person.

People with active symptoms of genital herpes are at very high risk for transmitting the infection. Unfortunately, evidence suggests about a third of all herpes simplex virus 2 (HSV-2) infections occur when the virus is shedding but producing no symptoms. Most people either have no symptoms or don't recognize them when they appear.
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Originally posted by Nudiesn at 20-11-2011 01:16
I see. That is true.

http://www.umm.edu/patiented/art ... mitted_000052_3.htm

To infect people, the herpes simplex viruses (both HSV-1 and HSV-2) must get into the bod ...

Nudiesn. You gotta be a bit careful with your internet sources. Most are bad and some are just absurdly conservative. If you are interested, look at somepapers by Dr. Anna Wald who is probably the best there is when it comes to HSV.

There is a difference between the theoretical chances of transmission and actual transmission risks. For instance, the CDC will probably tell you thatthere is a real risk of getting HIV from blowjobs. Most top researchers in the field would say that there is no compelling evidence that getting a blowjob has ever transmitted HIV to the recipient.

Same goes for transmission of HSV by way of saliva. If it happens it is too rare to measure or worry about. And, there are very few situations where saliva would be involved without skin to skin contact. The only situation I can think of is a girl spitting on her hand and giving a HJ, which has surely never transmitted HSV.
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Post at 20-11-2011 02:24  Profile P.M. 
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Thanks for the information, really helpful.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/444308

Now where to buy Valacyclovir in HK
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Originally posted by Dasani at 15-10-2011 08:24
But if I come clean now, maybe we can work through this? I am not sure, please God help me!...

Focus on yourself first.

I would agree with wander NOT to come clean with your SO just yet until all the facts are in.
What I got was the same as wander. Penile Yeast Infection, but the emotional shock was the same as getting anything else during the first week.

You get to worry about your SO, your work, keeping up your spirit and not letting anyone know about it. And it's very hard to do and I remember looking at my penis from time to time thinking: "it's over for you, my little one". A life-changing moment for me.

I was luckier than you as my SO at the time didn't have very regular sex with me. Okay, perhaps once a month could be called regular, but that (rather sad) fact gave me ample time to focus on myself and have less stress during the first three weeks of clinical checkups.

Like any kind of relationship-breaking bad news, the initial reaction for coming clean is that of betrayal and not of sympathy.

I would say the better way to "break the news", if this is ever needed, is to hold out until you have no choice but to let her discover something is happening to YOU. Ideally, the clinical results are found to be favorable before her discovering anything.

But if the results should turn for the worse (and I'm praying that it won't for you), you would have accumulated enough remorse and her "discovery" of your "shame" (if you want to call it that) would be met with sympathy and (hopefully) worked on by both parties.

I could be wrong, this is just hypothetical.

There are many things you can tell your SO, but this one in particular may not be something easily forgiven as they would OBVIOUSLY consider you had unprotected sex somehow.

EDIT1: Really sorry to hear the result was not in your favor.

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This thread is getting way out of hand

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