Hi bro Gweilo69,
I think u have yellow fever.
As someone who has almost 20 years experience in Asia I'd give you the following earth based notes:
1. U “love” her good, but a money-based marriage has nothing to do with love!
She is 42 and what u think how many customers she have already had? 1000?, 2000?, 3000?,
so how great is the chance that she just only loves you?
2. For her comes money first, then her family and then maybe u!
3. A long distance relationship (she in HK u in Canada) will not work.
What do you expect that she will remain faithful to the whole day in her shoe box apartment? That would be boring for her.
She has her social network (other WGs, clients, etc.) and an exciting nightlife just in front of her door.
4. She is a 42 years old WG, do u think you are her only regular customer?
5. What kind of relationship you are planning? A family with children?
Forget it, she is a 42 year old WG and her biological clock is running.
If so, then u look better for a woman in the age gap between 28-36.
Come over to Bangkok and I can show u in one day over 500 WGs they are willing to merry a nice,
rich foreigner for lifetime support. And I guarantee, all will fuck ur brain out for that Jackpot!  
6. Forget the myth that they must support their family (Exception: they have their own children living with their parents.)
and there was or is no other way to do it as a WG. How all Non WGs do it?
I mean the saleswomen, waitresses, Office workers, etc.
7. You do not have to “rescue” a 42 year old WG with ur money. 30.000 Hongkong Dollar are 3.800 US Dollar!
Ok if u have a lot of cash and 30.000 HK dollar are peanuts for u, then u do not need any advice.
8. Oh yes i had/have also longtime relationships with different sexy WGs (25, 29, 31, 33, 35 years old).
I get everyday these sms, emails, calls: I love u, miss u, think about u, bla bla. That means absolute nothing!!!
I bet, if u come over here and offer them 3.800 US Dollar a month lifetime support, all my girls,   
which knelt before me, sworn with tears in there eyes: “I will love u forever”,
will leave me in less in one second for that money!

But there is some hope: U must stay with her everyday and night, bring her to Canada,
Put her out from her WG life cycle, away from her WG friends and old customers.
From that point u will see how it moves.
Maybe she get boring, homesick in snowing Canada or she meets some new friends,
go out in discos and meet some good looking horny young Canadian boys. How knows?
I guess the success rate for that scenario is 95% fail to 5% success.

[ Last edited by  inbkk at 2-1-2012 12:25 ]

Another thought... what is this information going to do for you? She told you she is a WG from Hong Kong - I believe in a 141. That means that unless she was incredibly bad at it, she has slept with ~8-10 dudes a day, 5 days a week, for as long as she has done that. I am not sure what information you are going to get that's going to make that.... better? I mean - it is what it is. You can find out where she did it, see some websites, and so on... but that's the final answer - and she has already given it to you.

The more concerning thing is that it's about money now - and when a WG asks you for money... at some level, you're a client. I know you think you're different - but that's their job. To make you think you're different. That's why they tell guys "you're the only one who makes me feel this good" or "you aren't like the other guys I see" - do you think they make any money if they whisper in our ears "You're pretty much the same as the last 7 dudes I had sex with since noon!"

I could be wrong - I don't know the whole situation - but the natural inclination for men dealing with WGs is to thionk that they are all "the hooker with the heart of gold" - and I am sure a few of them are. But a hell of a lot more of them are smart, crafty women who have chosen a lifestyle built on making men feel good and taking their money. They may be nice folks, but thats what they do - and in return, we get to have sex with pretty girls. That's the deal.

I'd suggest seriously looking at your deal now, and asking what part of that is truly different.

(again, I reiterate - I have very little info, and these are just my opinions - take or leave them...)

NOTE: You really need to go read the thread mcclaim posted above. Was a good read.

[ Last edited by  Intenseslacker at 2-1-2012 18:52 ]

Maybe by posting her pics (with an RA of course), the threadstarter might be able to find out if she said the same things to other punters, with the same offer same deal. Then he'll know he is not the only special one that got string along....

u paying her 30k a month so she can retire is just another transaction between a john and a hooker
wat do u think will happen once u cant afford that amount?
that chick will move on.
y would u spend that much on a 40 year old chick that looks 25?
how about u get a chick that is really 25 or younger?
i know plenty of people in the US  who have had arranged marriages  with chinese or viet chicks
and their families were the onces that paid so their daughter could be a US citizen

paying 30k to buy an old hooker makes no sense at all to me

u will be in love with every girl in Rio or Sanado. please be realistic. since she asked u for HKD 30,000/month, i dont think that she is also in love with u

Thank you for the thoughtful responses.   Indeed she did get into 'the Game' out of need & has been taken advantage of by her deadbeat family. This is the major        cultural difference between us. Such exploitation would be less likely in the west.     Re: "ending badly", yes I have the same sense --& when you hear the same subjective opinion over & over again enough times, it virtually becomes a statistically valid sample set. Seems this relationship presents a spectacularly bad down side,     & I wouldn't give it a second thought --were it not for the fact that it also comes with aspectacular good side in so many ways (not just sexually).       Two easily imagined scenarios as a result. First: We hook up, I bear the costs, & it goes bad & I either escape soon enough to dodge that bullet or it drags on & is painful & expensive.       Second:  I choose not to pursue the relationship further, in which I am sure I will    imagine for years to come thar she retired with the next guy to come along & she   ends up making him happy by being a wonderful wife. Just as likely a scenario.
FYI our 14 year age gap is not dramatic (despite her youthful looks) because I'm
youthful myself in teems of lifestyle, mentality, appearance, etc.      She's very Westernized & seems to understand both cultures, so we have good conversations (in English).  To meet her, no one would guess her source of income.

This advice has been helpful to me --thanks!       The better info I give it seems the advice gets more useful. So FYI: I've never been her client & never intend to be.     I've never given her any money at all. We'd go & I'd pay for dinner, taxis --that's it. In this sence everything is very standard.      --except for one thing: (as a bro in an earlier post correctly quoted) "oh & by the way I'm a hooker".      Which she said in the same way one as one would say "I have a dog".
She has not asked for $ & I have not offered, the HK$30k figure refers to what she feels she needs to give her family every month --which she says is the ONLY reasonshe is in the Game. She says she is not addicted, does not like it, & would very      much like to settle down with one man & have a "normal" life.  I believe her & I'm  pretty sure if not with me, then this is what she will do with the next guy. She's easy to fall in love with

I didn't expect to get such good advice as this when I dirt posted,  so I don't know what I would stand to gain by getting even more advice / info --for example by posting photo & getting a field report from a bro. Maybe it would be the kind of real     confirmation I would need to dump her. It is possible that she says to me tomorrowthat she was only joking about being a 141 WG. No, this is not going to happen, butstill having anther bro say to me: "yes, I know her, nice girl, but she is shagged out& wants to quit" or "yes I know her, she's an incredible scam artist who knows just what the guy wants to hear.      Her MO schtick is to meet guys & not charge them, then take them for a bundle later." Both responses would be useful.

Here's the thing: $3,800 USD/month ain't all that much.  If the scam is: "I'll quit my job, move to Canada and give up everything" and THEN a month later you send Papa a fat check, well, that's just not a very efficient scam and so I think she's not trying to play you.  Now on the other hand, if she said, "Send me plane ticket money and money for my family first . . ." well, you see where that is going.

If you're game, you could always give it a trial run.  Have a very upfront conversation with her and tell her that you're honestly shocked and disoriented by the working girl thing, but that you love her enough that you trust her and want to try and work through that.  Don't beat around the bush, be considerate but lay out the two sides of things: the practical side (living arrangements, money, etc.) and the emotional side.  Discussing both very openly will allow you to come to some mutual agreements that will limit your financial downside if it all fails, and still be emotionally supportive by reaffirming your feelings for one another.  You don't want to talk about just the practical side, because that will sound like you don't trust her and the next steps will be a test of her fidelity, etc., but you also don't want to just trust blindly to love.  Be clear about the practical stuff, and reassuring about the emotional stuff.

If it works, then it was a chance well taken.  If it fails then you're out $10 or $20 grand, and she can easily get her old job back.  There will of course be heartbreak all around, but at least no lives or livelihoods will have been lost.

it's a tough tale and an even more difficult choice to make.
if a million brows said it aint a good idea, it proabably aint.
it's a toss between your heart and brain.
logic says no but love says yes....

sleep on it for awhile and if your heart wins, sleep on it again...

Thanks to all the bros for their advice --& it won't be ignored. I do have the opportunity to sleep on it for several months as we were not planning on seeing each other for several months anyways. I have my job here in Canada & she has .... well ...... another thousand of you guys to bang. But I will see her regardless of what i decide (whether my brain or heart carries the day) so will be needing a place to stay.  Any recommendations for a stay of about a month?

You may wana check  Room for Tourist at Mody Road Lyton Bldg TST.
Rooms ranges from 300-400 HK $ a night.





[ Last edited by  devilgodspeed at 3-1-2012 20:17 ]

I do have to ask, how did she arrive at a figure of 30,000 HKD/month?

At 42, it's hard to imagine how she could earn that amount by turning tricks, unless she is doing 5-7 guys a day, everyday and that's without expenses.

You should ask how she managed to survive so far without such a generous offer.

Most of the time when you hear this in Manila, "I need x amount to support my family", they can't break down the figures for you, either in earning power or in detailed expenses.

Seems as if you're being taken for a ride here.

Hi bro Gweilo69,
yes the better the info then more clearly the situation.
Well, that you ask the brothers here, so you'll get many opinions.

To understand the situation better:
How many years experience in Asia / with Asian women do you have?
Do you know how many years she has worked as a WG?
How long she stays with u in Canada?
How many days/weeks/month u spend already in HK, at all together?

Notes:
1. Yes that is true: Many, many WGs are looking for an exit option, especially when they are at the end of their career.

2. Good that you give her no money so far for sex (No client status!). But be carefull,
some WGs know to play a game long time (lure u in cheap, grabs you emotionally and after comes the bill).

3. Good that u try to come to HK for a month and may stay together. Check out her family!
They are all lazy and do a good life with the money from her WG daughter, or for what is that money 30 K / month used?
Does she have already children? Check out her friends, and so on.

4. Try to find out how she makes money. If she needs 30K for her family and around 10K for her self,
then she makes 40 K a month. If she is an apartment WG then she needs min 80 customers/month,
if she is an overnight freelancer then she needs 20 overnighters, or she have already some overseas sponsors,
or is a mia noi from some rich HK guy. It is good to know her better.

So your position is not so bad.

[ Last edited by  inbkk at 3-1-2012 23:01 ]

You coming over to stay a month is your best bet IMHO.  Make sure that you just show up and NOT allow her to make any pre-preparations etc for you; you want to know/see her for what she is regularly.

Also, instead of spending a month just in pursuit of her, make sure that you also use the time to really monger around - in Hong Kong as well as other parts of Asia. Get all that good sex with her ONLY out of your mind and just screw around with others as much as you can. I THINK you'll find that she's not anything special; that's just how things usually are.

Also, prior to you going, do find out what are the chances of her EVER being allowed back into where you're at. You said something about her already being deported and not allowed back in etc.... chances of you ever being able to sponsor to emigrate in would I think be quite minimal.  So maybe your choice is already made for you.

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 3-1-2012 23:51 ]

Yes bro Seaj,
we do not know how bro Gweilo69 affair ends, but i think he must promise us,
before he marry her, he must spend exactly 30 K for other sexy asia WGs,
so his decision to marry her, will then surely be better balanced.

please post her picture.
and hopefully someone here recognise her and show u the way to her door.
and when u have finally found her，may u 2 live happily ever after.

Thanks to DGS foe this hotel recommendation. I think I know this area --just East  of TST. There are some good bars along the waterfront, & good views of the highly  light show. Which is about the second best entertainment I got in HK. Kary was #1 & there was no #3. no punting. But I tell you. After I have been reading these reports (thanks guys) I'm thing the day I break up with Kary will be the day I start
punting. And HK seems like a good place to do it. I mean punters go where there are good WGs but visa vera, good WGs go where there are lots of punters. Right? Lasttime I stayed at the Rai Lai Hotel, 648 Nathan --which was okay. Right close to Mong Kok --which I understand is an excellent area for 141 walkups. What about Mody Road? Also good for 141 buildings? Is it walking distance from James Lee Mansion,  Champagne Court Block B,  37 Dundas,  19 Jordan,  Long Wah Building,       ABCD Mansion, & the Holiday Inn (47 Nathan)? Because if it turns out that I do punt, I willreally punt --I mean walking up to my hotel room carefully cradling my poor          overworked balls.

Thanks to Ka Ka. Still mulling over the advisability of posting her picture. + & -
About showing up at her door. She seems to have been very honest with me
(eventually) in that she did tell me she was a very busy WG. She used the words "working ALL the time & never getting a break to rest. WTF? I don't know what         means. Does it mean a dozen guys per day? More? So I might show up ay her door & she would not be alone. I would feel like shit. I mean intellectually I know. But seeing it would some how be worse.

Thanks to markreyes. That figure is just what she said her family of deadbeats        needs in terms of monthly support. She says this is what she provides. I don't know if she was averaging,  or exaggerating, or what. In terms of past experience, she     says she does almost exclusively Chinese men. Few gweilos. What can I glean from    this?  Does this mean that she does not work downtown? She keeps everything a    secret from her family so perhaps she travels out to the New Territories to work.     And how the he'll does her family "not know"???  Where do they think she is getting all this money? I don't think they ever ask.  Something about "goose & golden egg".Hey, do you guys mind if I vent my frustration about this?