Subject: In love with 141 WG
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In love with 141 WG

I'm desperate to find out anything I can about a SP(WG) who works out of a 141. I know she advertises on the Internet but I don't know which site. Don't think it is sex141.com. I met her non-professionally, as a man might might a non-working girl. I invited her to come to my home in Canada. She did. We had a great time,  but then I found out she's a  WG back in her home in Mong Kok. She supports her needy family. I need more info to know how to proceed.
Any kind of advice/help would be appreciated. She's worked somewhere in Kowloon for years.  I'm thinking some of you guys know her. With me she went by the name "Kary" but she is secretive & nobody knows what she does. She will quit the profession only when I can take over supporting her whole family ($30,000 HK / month) as she currently does.   To know her one would never expect any kind of con. She seems very honest & down-to-earth.           But I'm not thinking straight because I love her (& BTW she is great in bed). She is 42 but looks 25. If I can figure out how to post a photo I will. Is that the best way to proceed?  Please respond. Thanks.

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Wow! I think you've made the right first step in finding her. Which leads me to ask, how did you lose touch with her??? It's great that you accept her for who she is rather than what she is. And, just because she's a WG does not have to mean she's dishonest or that there are cons to being with her. You sound like a good, decent chap and I wish you luck. Do be a tad careful though. I would love to see a happy ending to this fairy tale!
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Reply #1 Gweilo69's post

These WGs work hard to support themselves and their families so it wont be a good idea to tell her to stop working and shoulder all her needs just to be with you.
I think rather than taking over supporting her family with 30k HK$/month, its better if you can introduce to her other means of livelihood in Canada so she can work and earn money for herself thus diverting her attention of going back working as a WG.

about posting pictures, just click on [Edit] and you can see the option to upload pictures. its located below Uploading New Attachments [+] [-]

[ Last edited by  devilgodspeed at 1-1-2012 10:05 ]
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wat happens if you both agree to terms and she comes over
but a couple years later u cant support her family anymore?
doesnt sound liek a good idea to me
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Reply #1 Gweilo69's post

it won't work and in the end you will be hurt... sorry.

Come back to HK, go to Wan Chai, Neptune 2, Escape, Amazonia. You will find a hundred girls just as sweet (really) and just as devoted to you (really). Don't feel bad, you are NOT the first and will not be the last either (really).

NB. I realise you will ignore this advice so good luck finding her.

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Reply #1 Gweilo69's post

I can perceive from the tone of your post that you are very serious about this "quest" of yours.

First, about posting up her picture - actually I am of 2 minds on this. On the one hand, it WILL give others here a bit of basis for our various advise/comments and probably even some sort of confirmation as to her status etc - but on the other hand I would be plenty worried that such posting of pictures will only appeal to the prurient interests of some readers here...and probably makes it all that harder for you to actually proceed with the "affair" if you should be thinking about it....which I see you ARE!!  So, think carefully first FOR YOURSELF before you post up pictures.

Specific to your question - I think that the majority of us here - including MOI - will counsel you against proceeding with this.  There are just TOOOO MANY fishes in the sea, why would you even want to start with someone that has already got so many strikes against her? She's already told you that she's a WG - what more do you want?  That you're hoping that she's miraculously/somehow a vestal virgin?

And her "demands" even before anything else - $30k/month AND a commitment to support her family??  Man... $30k is only a START!! I guarantee you this! And 42 YO??  What are you thinking bro???  42 YO gals in Asia are ANCIENT and literally only priced at the lowest end of the scale!!

LOVE?? Or lust? Or worse - puppy love.....at 42 YO nonetheless!! Wake up bro!

Use the $30K to come and have a GREAT MONGERING VACATION IN ASIA! Whether Hong kong or other parts of SE Asia - or the Mother lode of 'em all - China - and FORCE YOUR EYES WIDE OPEN!!

You will see what your 42 YO angel is truly all about plus you will see that the world is really your oyster!  Coz that is what it is for ANY MALES in Asia.

Naaahhh... not a good idea for you to even contemplate this - in fact its a downright lousy idea IMHO.
Good luck in prying your eyes open though! I've seen too many puppy eyed suckers get into this road to self destruction. Just too many!!

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 1-1-2012 14:06 ]

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Reply #1 Gweilo69's post

If you got to know her welland you intend on seeing her again, then you must have her contact and will be able to find her ... so what advise are you asking ?

checking today, the name Kary is not in the Mong Kok  DB of any sex site in HK but just to let you know, almost any 30 - 40 year old walk up would ask for $30/month to become 'exclusive' ... above 40 the price comes down to $25K

Since you can't formulate your question, no one here can give you advise ... at most, the only thing we can do is, after you tell us where we can find her, one of the bros here will take one for you and visit her to see if she's the type that offers herself 'exclusively' to any tom, dick or harry ...
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Reply to #7

"almost any 30 - 40 year old walk up would ask for $30/month to become 'exclusive' ... above 40 the price comes down to $25K"

I would be very, very interested to hear you say some more about that sentence... $30/month? You mean 30K? And... how would you even know they were exclusive...? I mean... I am having trouble getting my head around this whole idea... I had no idea that was even an option. Can you tell more on that? (purely curiosity...)
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Reply #8 Intenseslacker's post

yes 30K/month - HK$

the girl would start off being 'exclusive' for you, and if you provide accommodation, she'll move in there, and if its convenient for you, you live with her ... a few months down the road, while you're working or on a trip, she might get bored and meet up with one of her regular client, and unknown to you, she becomes 'non-exclusive'.
But, of course, there is a chance she'll remain faithful to you ... at least, that's what you want to think ...

I strongly suggest you consult someone in family planning rather then seek advise here ... good luck !

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Reply #9 twiceAweek's post

Thanks for the info. I'm pretty sure that would be a rather hairy option over the long term... not to mention highly non-cost-efficient. Not something I'd ever be interested in... but it's always good to learn new things. The diversity of WG options around the world is really amazing. Something different in every country...

Sorry to derail the original conversation.

As to the original thread... I have to say, justa gut check: If you're on a forum like this asking "should I be making long term financial promises to people I barely know"... I think you already have your awnser as to how bright a move you're making - emotionally and financially. But - as stated above, I doubt strange unknown mongers are gonna change your opinion on that. Good luck.

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Reply #2 Scorpius62's post

Reply ti Scorpius62's question about "lose touch": misunderstanding was my fault. No we have not lost touch. As I write here in Canada, Kary is a working in Kowloon somewhere. We e-mail every day. I know here home address & have been there many times. I know the homes of her entire extended family. No we're still in touch,  but I feel I should know more about her professional life --avout which I am pretty  ignorant.
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Reply #3 devilgodspeed's post

Reply to DGS: thanks for support. Yes she works hard --including (I found out recently) a stint working illegally here in Canada on a visitor's visa & then being refused  re-entry as a result). Now this complicates her coming to Canada again. Perhaps years from now if we were married --I don't know, but helping her find other work in Canada in the short term is I,possible. So I've tried to help her find other work in   Hong Kong unsuccessfully.
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Reply to DGS: thanks for support. Yes she works hard --including (I found out recently) a stint working illegally here in Canada on a visitor's visa & then being refused  re-entry as a result). Now this complicates her coming to Canada again. Perhaps years from now if we were married --I don't know, but helping her find other work in Canada in the short term is I,possible. So I've tried to help her find other work in   Hong Kong unsuccessfully.
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Reply #4 jsmithj88's post

Reply to jsmithj88: yes, this is fraught with possible unpleasant scenarios --I know. However her whole family appear to be reasonably comfortable --perhaps at Kary's expense. Seems to me they are exploiting her terribly.

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Reply #11 Gweilo69's post

You're in love with a girl and got thrown a little curve ball of, "oh, by the way, I'm a prostitute."  I understand the need to find out more about her and her life but you should ask yourself why you want to know.  If it's because you're now uncertain about the whole thing because she told you about her WG status, then knowing more isn't going to make you more comfortable in your original decision.  If you're trying to decide if she's addicted to the business (many girls are) rather than just doing it out of necessity (again, many girls are) then this is probably a good thing to know.  She could legitimately be one of those girls who got into it out of need, and have been stuck there ever since by a deadbeat family sucking up every dime she earns.

I'm not troubled by her query on your ability to support her family, per se.  This is just part and parcel of the culture, and whoever in the family has the means is the one that usually pays for the parents, school for brothers and sisters, help starting new businesses, etc.  You'd have to shoulder that same expectation whether you married a WG or a non-WG.  As long as you're comfortable that she's not scamming you on the 30K HKD/month, and that it's legitimately what she's paying to support her family, then I don't see this request in anyway out of the ordinary.

However, as others have pointed out, most of us have the impression that these marriages tend to end badly.  As far as I know, it's a subjective impression, not an objective one based on empirical, statistical data, so we could all be wrong.  I would suggest that the fact that she's 42 would work in your favor for a successful marriage (in theory) as the only disaster marriages that I know about between gweilo's and asian girls have all been ones with very large age differences.  A 50 year old bald, fat dude (see D'Artagnan's avatar ) marrying a 20-something hottie is going to have a harder time keeping it real than two mature adults who choose to marry: adding a huge age gap to a wide cultural difference in a marriage is just making things doubly hard.

Good luck in working through this.  You are brave to try, and regardless of which choice you make, just be certain about it and don't look back.

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Reply #1 Gweilo69's post

Hmm, I can kind of understand your position here. I've pondered over this before whether to support my favorite WG. However, I've come to a decision not to do it. I'm still young, and there could be better choices for me in the future. And supporting a WG would not be the best thing for me to do, even if my financial condition allows. At least, that's how I feel.

I always remind myself of this: "Keep your wallet, and your heart in check" when you're dealing with WGs. They are out there to get your wallet, and you are out there to get her unload your LB. It's a business transaction. Leave your heart out of this.
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Reply #12 Gweilo69's post

She's used to earning Huge amount of CASH everyday working as a WG in Kowloon so finding her another job in HK wont do any good as she will always be tempted to go back to being a WG when she's bored with the lower paying office work.
She's 42 and close to expiration being a WG so in due time she will certainly give it up and will like to live the rest of her life being loved by a decent man.
She should be the one to initiate those sacrifices in exchange for a LOVE THAT NEVER ENDS.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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Reply #6 SEAJ's post

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Yes, thanks for the caution, I have mixed feelings about posting a photo.     Risk of some unforeseen problem versus the possible benefits that might come from one of you guys recognizing her & then passing on some useful intel.
Again, sorry for misunderstandings which came from my trying to be brief.  I'm not seriously considering spending $30k supporting her & her family.  That's a figure she just mentioned in regards to what it would take for her to be able to retire.  She has not demanded this from me, but realistically i would be her replacement source of    income because she can't seem to find anything else.   And her  retirement, not any "exclusivity arrangement", is what she wants. I do have serious doubts about this    and am not thinking it would be as easy as in "The World od Suzie Wong". Which,
by the way, I have not seen mentioned on this Forum. Is it not relevant to you
guys? And BTW to me she really does look 25. I would not be surprised if I were to find an airbrushed photo of her on one of these sites in which she looked 20.
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You reminded me of my own story.....

Albeit she is not really a WG, but a veggie masseuse

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What are you after?

She told you she's a hooker.  Ummm, what more do you want to know from us??  How good she is at it?   

Be thankful she was honest with you and didn't state "I love you and have quit and am waiting for you... Pls send me 30k".  

So...  What exactly is your question?  Her WG-name is likely different than her civiliian name, so without a pic we can't help anyway.
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