Sorry, but I don't agree with that, the long history of China is one of boom and bust, numerous times.  During every bust the ones who suffer are the people at the bottom of the ladder, then along comes a warlord promises them a better life, and with their help becomes the new emperor....and where do these people end up?  still at the bottom, eeking out an existence.  China is booming now, but people know from history that this will not last forever (100-200 years maybe, but not forever and you never know when the end will come).

WG's, especially ones from the mainland are likely supporting a whole extended family, I don't think that's greed.

this is the thing i dont have a gf anymore, was in a long relationship for about 7 years got too bored of it.. im still young and i do the hobby because it is exciting.. i have some friends that are fuck buddys but you know this hobby is about that exciting feeling you get, its diff from a gf or a friend that will just fuck you.

the reason why i ask this is because

1) its a common question
2) i hardly do full service, most of the time in NYC I get a massage with a h/j or b/j and sometimes full service.
    i had this girl that massaged me about 7 years ago when I first started and recently bumped into her again and
    had her service. I saw her a few times in the casino losing all her money and when I was getting a massage from her
    we had a talk about losing/winning in the casino. She came from china to nyc and she sends money home to china to      support her family and 1 daughter, her husband left her when she was young. The reason why she gamble is because she is bored/and stress from her occupation and her life, besides working as a WG she really has no other hobbies. As for job, once you start in this field, you feel used and feel like an object that can be bought with money, it is very hard to go find a legit job once you have taken this road.

I pity sometimes but hey life is life, sometimes you feel its pretty sad and another day you dont give a shit. You know what i mean BROS ?

the relationship between "pity" and "prostitution" is alittle blurred i think. most people would pity a WG simply by virtue of the fact
that she is in the flesh trade. but WGs become WGs for all sorts of reasons. greed possibly, out of
what they believe are 'exceptional' personal circumstances or to make a quick buck to get out of debt etc etc.

what most people neglect however, is that some (and i stress, some, not all) of these WGs actually have no qualms about their
profession and in fact possibly even enjoy it due to its 'well-paid' nature? so how can we (or why should we even try to) pity them?
its like an architect or whatever, the person has no qualms about his line of work and actually does it because it pays well, we
wouldn't instinctively "pity" him would we? same concept, different occupations. we wouldn't even contemplate this question if he/she
was a doctor, lawyer or some other professional.

BUT, and now following from bro marsupial's quote, if the WG was either cheated or coerced into the industry, then yes of course
i would pity her. who among us would not? but it is not the inequity of the trade or its lack of respectability in society that would
lead me to pity her - it is because she was either foolish enough to enter or pressured into something she did NOT want to do. the same,
i would pity a doctor for example if he/she (maybe not economically, but socially or out of family pressure) enters into the
profession which he or she has no passion for.

when i think "prostitution", i don't think "pity" and lump it together by default. but when i think "cheated, coerced, pressured"
i would think "pity". Prostitute or otherwise.

Why would anyone in their right mind feel sorry for a WG in HK. They're a special breed and not many girls will freely give up their dignity and self-respect in exchange for money. But they've made their bed and now they must lie in it. And if it involves a little unpleasantness from time-to-time, that's part of the price they have to pay. They make very good money for doing very little and, if they don't like it, they can always stop, as I'm sure many do. I feel more sorry for many domestic helpers in HK who often endure far worse and are saddled with a 2-year contract.

I see dead people.  

I quite liked the comparisons at first, but now it's getting old and a little silly. I do have a mind of my own.

Yah? Well you have yet to say anything in these forums that doesn't read like a copy and paste of one of Jake's old posts. Even the contrast of WGs and domestic helpers is one of Jake's old talking points. If you want to continue with this charade, at least give Lenny a personality of his own - otherwise what's the point?

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I don't remember that and I don't have full text search. Can you provide a link?

Anyway, many bros think the same as me and I'm not gonna change my personality to suit you.

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You also forgot to mention they are suffering from lack or sex or most Nada.....people in HK tend to believe their looks deteriorate due to work overload......but they are so wrong.

lenny:

i have no idea where the fook you get these ideas in your head?...you think sucking and fucking 8-10 guys a day is easy ...maybe you should try taking cock like jake did before he died...he finally KNEW how tough it is before he died but sadly for him he could no longer repent for his shitty arse statements he made in his miserable life...

Look... this has nothing to do with the ups and downs of China economy..

i know some WGs have to support a big family back at home.
but do u know it's really cheap to support a big family in a typical China rural village?
a family of 10 can survive on less than RMB 2000 a month, not in the most comfortable way, but at least sleep under a roof with full stomach.

a standard worker in Guangdong with minimum wage of RMB 770 + OT pay can earn about RMB 1600 a month.
for a big family of 10, at least 2-3 siblings will be working in the city, that net them at least a total income of RMB 5000 a month..
minus all the city living costs for the working siblings, the whole family will still have plenty of money to "survive".

i personally know many many China women who work in factories/restaurants/offices earning less than RMB 2000 a month, but still can send money back home for her husbnad, child, parents and grandparents.
if these normal women can survive, why can't the WGs?
because it's no longer about survival..
it's abt earning the most money in the shortest time.
Put it in a good way, it's called SMART, bad way? GREED.
no difference to me.
nothing wrong with being smart and greedy anyway.

Pity on these WGs?
Yes i pity them for being born into a poor family.
But i don't pity them for being WGs.
They chose this path.
The easy path.
In fact for some, i applaud them for the things they are willing to do for their families.
But they don't need pity from us.
Self-respecting WGs will not appreciate the sympathy from us anyway.
Those who seek your pity are just taking you for a ride.. at your expense.

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Yes, I agree, but it has nothing to do with being used...  All of the WGs I have known well have painted a very clear picture of what it's like to try to leave the business.  Once you get used to sucking cock, it's not so bad -- particularly if you exercise control on whom you take as clients.  When you want something special -- like a new Kate Spade bag or a trip somewhere -- you just suck a few more cocks.  But in the real world, you bust your butt at a mundane job for several weeks (or months) to afford such a luxury.  It's hard to find a legit job simply because they have been spoiled with the freedom and the ability to earn large amounts of discretionary income.

The only reason I might pity a WG is that they become trapped and cannot afford to leave, until they simply fail to be able to make any income at the profession.  Very, very few of these girls have an exit strategy...

Have fun, CGP

they do..
their exit strategy is to hook a rich husband...

but they forgot we men have our own EXIT STRATEGY too!!!

Anyone who has pitty on WG Please see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x ... rom=PL&index=22  That is just ONE prespective that i am sure MANY WG's share!!! I am sure after watching it you will feel less pity.

ALSO,
Can anyone please tell me how much dose a HK WG actually make???? In this thread people have claimed they make ALOT, but this is contradictory to sometimes(In Reports!) when I hear that papasans share is too much so they "tipped her extra".

Depending on which province the WG is from, most of them have to pay HK$8-15k just for the entry permit to HK.

They need to earn at least 30k a month to make the trip worthwhile.
any less, they are better off in China.

Don't know about HK WGs but in Canada if she is hot she can make 7000 to 10 000 CAD for 1 week work that's 49 000 to 70 000 HKD this was told to me by a hot WG commission to the house already factored in. Oh and she charges 200 CAD minus 70 to the house.

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Wow, really?! That comes as quite a shock to me! They actually make so little.. But I guess it is considered wayyy above the average HK income? But when you consider what WGs in Australia, and Canada - as kenli mentioned make, it is Nothing! But still no pity for them. We have to live with market conditions, and so too do the WG's need to let supply and demand set the prices.

it's not comparable.
different living standards in these countries..

AU$5k in Australia... you can't do much.
but RMB 30k /month in China, u can live like a King.

being a wg isnt as easy as you think! you can have the looks to attract, but you must also be able to take the pounding of 10-15 cocks a day.

some can earn £1-2k per week, but a trip to the clinic will cost around 1k. i know cos thats how much i paid for a wg. twice in total, costing me 2k in the space of 6 weeks!

in the end, i suggested her to quite this profession.

those who can take the pain, may not be attractive enough to compete with the pretteir girls!  

good money doesnt mean easy money. most people cant seem to distinguish the two.

You need to distinguish what type of WGs

Walk ups already have IDs so no baggage to start of with ...
a popular walk up will make $4K - 5K a day, their expenses are room rent and washing towels ...
their take home pay would be around $80K/month