"Sometimes I feel terrible when I'm banging these chicks, its sad and depressing that they have to sell their body"

I think the subject matter started off with melodramatic so the comments are not off wall at all.  Granted my comments about the power chicks have applies more to the states than it does for much of China, Asia, or any 3rd World Countries where guys have their picks with a large girl to guy ratio.  Girls who do make it to the states know their options and even those who prefer to be lazy can still snatch a guy.  I consulted for the government before and even the ugly girls (unfuckable no matter how drunk you are) are married and truely think they are attractive.  Girls who manage to reach the states know their options are better and exercise them.  Where else can a past KTV girl in china hook up with a doctor?

The selection of WG in the states are not that great and many keep getting shut down.  If anyone wants to know, PM me or something and I can start a new thread.  In summary, don't feel sympathy, it's pretty shitty in places where it's not readily available.  There's plenty of post of travelers who can attest to this.

I feel sorry for them if mongers treat them like shit, but I treat them with respect and they enjoy the sessions just as much as me for the most part, so  no need for me to feel sorry.

"Sometimes I feel terrible when I'm banging these chicks, its sad and depressing that they have to sell their body"

All that comment says is that Shizno thinks providing sex for money is "sad and depressing." However interesting it may be as an exploration of his state of mind, it says nothing about prostitutes.


I'm sure there are WGs everywhere who manage to find themselves a husband, but how is that wrong? Is it your opinion that prostitutes shouldn't be allowed to marry?

Really bro, this little cautionary tale of yours about vampire WGs girls "smashing and ruining" guys says more about you than it does about them. Your post is just another example of something I've seen time and again in these forums: guys dressing up their own moral prejudices as "objective" advice to fellow punters. You really believe this evil-whore nonsense or are you just trying to impress the boys?

Don't feel terrible. Be happy that you get to spend time with a gorgeous woman.

You're much more likely to be doing her a favor if you're positive and respectful.

Remember, she'll still be in that profession whether you visit her alot, it's outside your control.

I really think you're missing the whole point.  I'll just sum it up in lamens terms.  Girls can be evil, anyway you slice it.  Who says anything about dressing up my morals.  I'm f-ing deprived of hot chicks in the states and who cares about whether a WG can find someone to settle down with.  Do you?  Do any of us?  The point is that these WG, should you have any type of "sad" or "depressing" feeling towards, can eventually settle down with someone and if they are smart, they would head off towards the states and find a bunch of guys to settle down with.

The objective advice is to not feel sympathy at all towards WG girls coz outside of this profession, don't expect to get service, albeit good service, from a chick if you ain't got the dough. Now, if Saint Marsupial begs to differ here and have some good "objective" opinions about morals and how to get good service from chicks outside of the WG world, I think a lot of guys would pay money to hear what you have to say.  Besides, what is there to impress in these boards?  Aren't we all trying to share the experience with hot chicks so other dudes can get in on the action.

guynorcal - you are in real need of an editor, and you could probably benefit from a few sessions with a shrink as well. Go back and read your post #58 - that silly little lecture of yours contains every cliche ever written about evil whores. Interesting as it is as a statement of your attitude towards WGs, objective and unbiased it's not! I don't know what your problem is bro, but you obviously have issues with women that you need to deal with.

Dude, as long as that shrink has G cups , I'm there.  I'm here for the exchange of WG experiences although the little girly exchanges helps me build up my credits, I really prefer reading about hot chicks. nuf said.

[ Last edited by  guynorcal at 1-9-2009 11:52 ]

No pity.They got to make a living someway.The ones I pity are the ugly chicks that probably wind up being the street cleaners I see in the mainland cities.
Hell these working girls probably make enough to set themselves up good for the rest of their life.
They probably work a few years on and off until they have enough to buy a small shop selling whatever.
Im damn glad the system allows these girls to be available to us horny old guys.

I had no idea it was so easy for Asian WGs to "head off towards the states"?   It's not even simple or cheap for a Chinese girl to get into HK, bills to pay, only short time to make some money.

We get girls coming into AUS on temp "student' visas and they have to pay organisers US$3k+, no residency or benefits, and even if they do meet a potential husband immigration rules are very prohibitive, and drawn out.

Anyway, I agree with your point about exchanging information, so how about a report or two?

froddo:

i wasn't going to say anything about this but after i read this statement in guynorcal post, i could only come up with two words about guys like him who say stuff like this... TYPICAL and ARROGANCE... which to me is not even worth commenting as that kind of a statement can only come from someone not up to par...

i am saying this now cause i never hear nothing like this out of your mouth or many other foreigners who visit this board...folks who have a better pulse/sense in how things are in the world, a little more informed and certainly not so "domesticated" as our ranter guynorcal ...

i mean what makes people think that these gals want to go to the us of a???... what the hell is so wonderful there that would make these people who have family, friends, their culture, customs and habits just pack their bags one day because "the good old us of a" is just so fucking wonderful that they are dying to go and willing to just leave everything they have ever known or love!!!...   ...and lets just assume that for some reasons, some do, as they have certain aspirations, that involves in being in another country, to want to start another life in a western country or whatever, why would one assume the us right away and not elsewhere????...this is just typical bullshit from someone who is obviously ignorant and has no fucking idea, that is basically steeped in either fully conscious or the deeply subliminal, in believing in their grandfather's age old imperialist crud...

the truth of the matter is these gals, if they made enough money through being a provider, would take that cash and make for themselves a better life in CHINA...their money would take them a lot further in their own country and they certainly would not have trouble being accepted/judged like they would elsewhere...on top of that, these are by and large, not gals who are desperate to become the brains of the world, wanting to speak as many languages as possible, with all the ambition in the world to burn and to take on the challenges of survive and thrive in a totally different country...life is complicated enough as it is...

and lets just say they want to have someone take care of them, what makes people like guynorcal immediately think that these gals would consider a gwailo will treat them better than their own, that the challenges with such a "relationship" would be so much better or easier than one within their own clan???... the only gals i can think of who would immediately do that are those incredibly dumb arse biatches (and some are so fucking educated filled with all the brilliant and quality bullshit they are led to believe in through all the brain washing since being a child) who are simply prejudiced against their own people???...

[ Last edited by  swan at 7-9-2009 04:38 ]

Swan,

I understand what you are saying, I agree with your points and I would appreciate not having my views mixed in and confused with guynorcal's statements. I am NOT advocating what guynorcal said, quote: "if they are smart, they would head off towards the states and find a bunch of guys to settle down with". The only thing I agreed with was that we should exchange information on the WGs so asked him to do a report or two.

If you read my post with the above in mind you will see I was being sarcastic, i.e. it is NOT easy to travel to the US or any Western countries to work. I do know such destinations are very attractive due to the significant extra money that can be made. I know WGs here in OZ that come here for that very reason and I know they send a lot of that cash back to their families. I've also heard of their friends, male and female, who make a reasonable salary doing non sex work, and the extra $$ are such an incentive they may work 2 or 3 jobs, seven days a week. They often work under the radar, the visas are limited length, and they will be deported if they overstay or get caught working contrary to the type of visa.

IMO there is no black and white answer on this. I agree with what you are saying as the general rule of thumb but it is not an absolute. I have met WGs who are saving to make a better life back home and want to return. They also look to do more than just one working trip here. I have met WGs who have managed to get provisional residency visas that also plan to make as much as they can and ultimately return home, even though they could stay on. I know people who like the flexibility of having more than one passport.

I know some WG's who married local men and are very happy here, and not just gwailos either, but of their same culture. One Thai girl I know divorced her gwailo husband and wants to return home but is being stopped by her children (they were from her previous Thai husband - deceased). They have lived here for ten years and travelled back several times with her to visit the Grandmother and relatives but the children say they feel Australia is their home now, the son is playing high school rep rugby and her daughter is starting a good career with a major hotel chain on a trainee management program.

There are very large Chinese communities here and the culture is welcomed and highly regarded by the vast majority of Australians. For decades now racism has been widely condemned and being labelled "racist" is considered very insulting (acts of racism risk jail terms). The Chinese community in Australia is the opposite of insular, I work and mix with many Chinese and Asian people that are in jobs ranging from your average office worker to people in very senior management positions, like senior Partners in the big four audit firms. The Mayor of Melbourne from 2001 to 2008 was a Chinese gentleman called John So. He was the most popular Mayor in the history of the city and I've seen him get massive applause at sporting events that humbled other politicians present who only received a perfunctory clap, or even the odd boo.

froddo:

thx for clarifying your thoughts...just to make myself clear, i made the above comment based on the fact that i know you are a gwailo from oz with a world view...

i understand (and appreciate, hence my response above) the sarcasm in your post #69 and in fact my response was based on the fact that a gwailo (you) made the comment about the ease of entry into a western country for the wgs that our friend guynorcal seems to believe is credible...

i am actually waiting to hear what guynorcal has to say about his statement...

300 rmd is the salary for a girl working in a factory from 8 to 8 and eating a bowl of rice. The WGs are earning that in 1 h , fucking. S

o it is a good trade off. I am actually felling bad when i reject them. I mean you do not even want to fuck a woman...but i am sure after 1 month they get used to it.


Most WGs are know they own whole buildingswhere I come from after 10-15 years of service, however some get exploited by pimps and becomre drugg addicts , but this happens even to non/WG girls.

Anyway I am still fucking WGs and will continue to do so...

At the end if the day, everyone makes choices whether it be good, bad, right, wrong, etc etc. Why beat yourself up over someone elses choice. I'm sure you have problems of your own to worry about bro!! Rather than someone elses.

So you never feel pity or compassion for anyone but yourself?

(btw, it's rather simple-minded to think that everything that happens to us in life results from our having chosen it.)

No, never pity them.  Understand that their job might not always be the best to do but only in the same way as everyones else.  Their problems aren't worse than anyone elses, they are just different.

Very true, but I think all the comments in this thread are made on the assumption that the girls have chosen to be WGs.

If it's not by choice, of course that's a different story.

i pitty those wg that work longer hours than me but earn less. not those who work less hours but more than me though!

you know, them escorts in london that charge 300 per hour! some have made so much money and is picking their customers now!

they even state clearly on their website that they will refuse you if they dont like the look of you

not that i look bad, but her cocky attitude had put me of trying heri!

to get rejected by a wg, how embarrassing it would be

you can bet your cash that's a marketing ploy, designed to pull in precisely those guys who are financially successful to compensate for their sense of insecurity, and need to prove themselves (to themselves) by spending it competitively.  OK I'm not saying she'll take all comers, but still the "look" she's evaluating is how much the client spent on himself as distinct from his genetically determined features!  

The shape of your wallet matters more than the shape of your nose ....

I hear what you're saying, but life is a lot more complicated than that. Not necessarily talking about WGs but people in general, what we are, the choices we make, do not happen in isolation from everything else that has shaped our lives. Life isn't fair. The poor are much more likely to join the army or become homeless.. The rich don't sell their blood or work as coal miners. All of those behaviors are on some level choices, but you can only choose from among realistically available options.

Then there is the fact that what we are is the result of previous choices we have made. A bad choice in the past can considerably narrow one's future prospects.

There are people who have things thrust open them and have to make the best of a bad situation. Many of the advantages we have result from having been born in the right country to the right parents. Before we judge others, we might want to take that into consideration.