1. About K-giving in non-reports sections, you got to be careful that it doesn't become a K-lovefest like it was previously with the Idle Chat thread. Basically, people who were participating there exclusively were moving up the ranks almost as quickly as those who were posting reports. Why make a report when you could just post in non-reports and move up just as quickly.  I am not too bothered about giving 1 credit for each post, but I don't see how giving K in ratings in non-reports could lead to more reports, which was the OP was addressing. There could be less incentive to post those time-consuming reports if there are other ways to get K bombs.

I think it was suggested that the OP should be the primary recipient of K for non-report threads. Perhaps I misunderstood that point. At one point in the past, the OP got K for starting a non-report thread while the people who replied got nothing.  Some dickwads who took advantage of this were posting several threads, with each asking a question. They got rewarded with the K, while the person who answered the question got acceptance points only.  Food for thought.

Perhaps, as a compromise, give one credit per post, but leave the rating system unchanged. That could result in morr work for mods, however, as they need to monitor non-reports sections more closely for one-liners. Alternatively, make it 5A=1credit, as stated, and leave the rest unchanged. The reports sections should remain the lifeblood of the forum.

2. I am not sure how allowing RA30+ members to neg will encourage participation. The problem we had previously was that newer members were being negged by multiple parties.  It only serves to piss people off, especially first-time offenders who are getting gangbanged left, right and centre by trigger-happy cowboys.  Policing the forum should be the role of mods first and foremost.  Press "Report to Mod".


Added sidenote: The ads and pop-ups are extremely annoying, but it is something we have got to get used to. Asking admin to delete them is not going to happen. It generates money. Admin was instructed by those higher up to make the report sections more open. That will nit change either. Luckily, we were able to negotiate an archives section at the time.  Trust me when I say this, be thankful that our forum continues to be independent from its Chinese counterpart. It could be a whole lot worse.

[ Last edited by  Thai-delight at 19-12-2017 18:31 ]

It doesn't but it might help with more participation on the forum and let's face it the forum couldn't possibly get any slower....


Sorry, what I meant was senior bros (maybe higher then RA30 come to think of it) can have the power to neg one liners to help policing these sections and help with the work load of MODS. Maybe senior members of an RA 60 and above? They shouldn't be to trigger happy as they have been around for years and know what is expected.


For the larger issues I agree but keeping an eye on repeat offenders trying to score a few Karma points with one liners could be done by senior bros.


"You can't keep doing the same things and expect different results...."

Obe

I think the initial intent when the admins removed the RA10 requirement to read the posts was to increase traffic enough to support advertising. I didn't like that zero RA level at first because of the privacy issue and google bot recording but once the privacy issue was resolved I thought that the advertising might help insure the longevity of the forum so I reluctantly supported it.

I'm beginning to think that the move for open access is backfiring and the no-RA model is counterintuitive. Readership may very well have risen since there is no requirement to post in order to view the posts but I think this is only a short term effect. However since there is no requirement to post in order view posts, the postings have dropped off. This means the readership may eventually drop off due to lack of content and, as we know... content is everything thing when it comes to the web.

I'm not sure what the best solution is yet but perhaps a return to a minimum RA to view some forums might help. For instance, keep the
"lounge", the information threads, "mongoring",  "newbies" and "rest of the world" open to the public but maybe require minimal RA or even just registration and one post for the rest. Walkups especially needs to be at least RA 10 accessible since this is where most encounters occur and where reports are most needed and also where they are most useful.

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Even with RA10, there is no requirement to post. As long as you register, you see RA10 stuff. When I was mod, I discovered that newbies could not put RA on their threads. I asked admin to enable that function, and he said no. Advertisers have probably signed up, expecting a certain number of page views. If threads become RA10 minimum again and page views drop, would advertisers be happy? It is not our website, so we must accept the final decision or move on to a website with advertising. If jake can convince admin to change, great. I just hope it doesn't lead to our side being swallowed up by the Chinese forum if the site becomes unprofitable.

obe: "You can't keep doing the same things and expect different results...." This suggests mods do nothing. Not correct. As twice has stated, we tried all sorts of things. I have no issue with trying other things if mods go down that path, but it is important that the K system in place is not significantly devalued. It was designed to encourage report writing, and writing reports should be the quickest way to move up the ranks. If Ks can be freely given everywhere and in huge numbers, why bother reporting? Sure, you are going to have loads of people chatting here, hoping to get +10K from overly generous seniors, but how will it promote report writing - the lifeblood. That has not been answered.

About giving RA30+ members negging power, that was in response to your reply in #11: "Possibly we should give RA 30 members and above the power to do a negative 1 Karma. This way the forum members can keep people in check in these sections who are clearly doing one liners to earn karma points."  Your proposal is not much different from what has already been implemented. Throbbing Titans (RA70) can neg. The reason given is mentioned in this mod announcement: http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... &extra=page%3D1


TBH, I think this is something MODS should be discussing. If you feel so heavily invested in this, join the team and be part of the decision making. It is very easy to tell mods what they should be doing, knowing you are not accountable for the final outcome. I will sign off from this thread, and leave it up to those in charge to make the decisions.

So senior bros can't suggest change? Very interesting.
I won't partake in any more discussion on this thread.

Obe

That is all you ever do. Easier to judge than to do.

added: Why do you have a hissyfit everytime people make a comment you disagree with?

[ Last edited by  Thai-delight at 20-12-2017 11:59 ]

Personally I think a bit of banter and passion on opposing points of view is also good for the forum - can't remember which thread but it might have been Twice who mentioned that the "gentlemanly" discussions like this also is good blood for the forum.........

It is encouraging to see so many replies and so much input to this thread though they're almost all from the most active members so that is good in that senior input though the limited number of contributors does indicate that maybe a tweak of some sort is needed to get more activity from the junior members?

I am in CET & UTC for next 10 days though work dies down at the weekend so will try to collate all the suggestions into 1 reply if folks think that would be helpful (and yeah yeah catch up on a couple of reports!!)

My 2c;

*  This place should be a fun place to visit but it's too focused on reports and K's, Sure that's why why come her but it should be fun also.
        On many forums there is always the core subject but they all have other sections where you can enjoy some banter , jokes, sport ect  and this generates mateship. This does not happen in here.


  *  Forums are also a old platform and there are many more easy ways to find a punt on your phone these days, and thats also against us.


  *  The vast majority of Mod's don't even post reports or for what it looks like don't even punt these days.


And that Sexbook shit that was plastered all over our screens and pop up windows was a complete fuck up

The statistics provided by p0isen are quite eye-opening and only reaffirms my belief that there are many lurkers on the forum. I think there needs to be more of an incentive for members to post reports and provide information. I write-up reports when I get the opportunity but I must admit it can be onerous if you are short on time. Some reports generate views in the hundreds yet attract a disproportionate amount of Karma - something that I notice has been declining in recent years. 5 years ago the same report would have attracted double the amount of Karma simply because of the number of active contributing members

I agree with what a lot of bros have said here. This is indeed the driest spell I have ever seen on the forum.

I am guilty of being a senior member & ex mod and not writing reports, truth is I have not actually punted for a long time & the punts I have done are the same girls at same places so I did not see the point of writing the same report again.

I agree with one thing obe said. Possibly reduce acceptance - karma to 5 or 10 instead of 20. This might encourage some bros to start talking more in none report threads. You are always going to have some bros take advantage of some loop hole in the system. I am sure some people here remember the "Idle Chat" thread & what happened. But lets not stop old wrongs prevent this forum moving forward.

Instead of having some senior bros (me included in the past) negging newbies or lurkers for breaking the rules, lets report them to mod and try to encourage them to follow the rules.

We had fun competitions in the past which rewarded Ks: Match the tits or pussy to the girls face and get 50K! These were great little competitions.

"Best report of the month gets 50K! Vote for your best report!" - Mod or senior bro chooses 10 reports and we all vote on them, no harm or no foul, just good fun.

I stepped down as a mod due to my job being crazy & poor health. I have offered to come back temporarily to help out but not heard anything back yet. I am more than willing to help this forum where I have met many good mates over the years.

Make it fun and encourage participation like you guys did in the past. That is offer a monthly / quarterly and / or annual themed contest with a certain amount of credits as a reward.  Requirements could be a minimum or two or three pictured reports.  For some reason the Obe Granny challenges come to (or is it more like I can't get them out of my) mind.  LOL.

[ Last edited by  bohica at 21-12-2017 10:32 ]

One reason I don’t write as many reports is that I am 99% SA in the states. While there is always money involved, these girls are part-timers at best.

I’m back in Asia next week and will put in some reports of my Thailand and HK adventures as they unfold.

As far as feedback and opinions from members, I personally appreciate anyone taking the time to put in their perspective. I have been a mod a year or two, actually, probably more than that by now and I like feedback.

I am a member first, mod second. I don’t see it as my place to tell anyone what they should or shouldn’t comment on in regards to the board. We all have our own levels of involvement we are comfortable with supporting. I am fine with everyone being as involved or uninvolved as they choose. Compelled involvement seldom delivers passionate outcomes.

Contests are a great idea. We have done them before with good results. I will take a look and see what I can come up with along those lines.

Finally, this may not be popular, but I will say it anyway. This forum is about a hobby. Unless you know something I don’t, there is no profit in it for any of us normal members. I joined for information, I reported to pay back the info I obtained, and I took a mod position because I appreciate the vast majority of members I have had the chance to meet and interact with on the forum and saw this as a way to pay back at a different level. There are days I don’t drop in here. Some times there are multiple days like that. But overall, this is the best forum for this type of hobby of which I am a part. Best members, least drama, even if I cause some myself, and most mutual respect amongst the membership. That’s why I stay and that’s why I want the best for the forum.

J

How about fair ratings across the fields.
I noticed ROW reviews get very low Ks compared to other reviews in Asia.  I know 141 is targeted to the Asia region but come on guys we are hunters too.  You may benefit ROW reviews when you in our neighborhood.
Just my 2 cents.
141 is ROCKS!!!

Take it or leave it, however i think the mod's got too serious around 2013/2014......Prior to that there was quite a lot more activity.

I am not sure if it was the MODS who got to serious or senior bros negging newbies who were tyring to partake in discussions.
We do owe a lot to MODS like Twice and TD who have done a tremendous job keeping things in order here.

However, other forums I am on have not experienced such a drop off in report activity and general activity like this forum has.
Why? I don't really know but this forum is quite sterile compared to others as it lacks banter between like minded bros.

Banter should be encouraged.

Obe

And the occasional grannie joke is welcome...

[ Last edited by  obe at 23-12-2017 09:21 ]

Awesome and thanks... I got the joke.

8 years ago, this day (if my memory serves me) bro SEAJ started his war with the mods

Merry Christmas everyone !  

Can we be enlightened on what happened?  Just wondering

way before your time but I miss the old fart

You two were the same age, right?  Give or take a decade.


No. I met with him regularly. On the forum, he could be annoying. But, in person, different. Online persona. I met him the same week he got banned. At Queen Victoria, if I recall. He was happy to take a break from the forum.

obe: You asked earlier how I remembered when I became mod. I still have that PM. The earliest one that I kept.