the best relationship you can get is to frequent daily and who knows by then you may be done with having to see her every day for 2-3 weeks a WG is here for.

And not to mention, depending on the WG you provide your info to, they could end up reverse stalking you!

so I've been chatting up one WG. She's actually married with kid (I've seen her kid photo). I got her gift from a holiday, she asked me out for dinner. So i'm going for dinner. But what sort of dinner do they expect? Surely it won't be Four-Seasons nor Ritz dinner, but what's expected? Obviously I will be paying for her. We didn't discuss anything 'after' but if we do end up in a room am I expected to pay for her service? If so, do I pay the usual amount or just small token say 200 buck and say "buy something for your child"? I think this could potentially offend her by paying, but that keeps the boarderline clear....

** as a side note **
I've dated WG before but that was WG in Japan so for me it was cheaper to 'date' her cuz each session costed 2k HKD... in fact best sex I ever had was with her... she asked for my fantasy, I said swallow, she did it next time but she hated it, with tears afterwards, but said "I did it because I like u, it taste like shiit but it's yours"... wow now that's something I didn't get from wife. haha....

Just a comment - with my Japan WG in past, when I offered to pay for her 'service' she got offended and refused. She said "I'm shagging you cuz I like you, not because I need your money"... so I think if WG are willing to see you outside they like you and see you. If they purely wanted the money, they will not bother with their time outside work.

Well Bro, it is far more complicated than that......  and be careful -- with your attitude a lot of WGs will play you like a fiddle!!  Men are easy.  They have a hottie swoon and say stuff like that and we crumble and buy them iPads!  (PS:  I dont!  Any gal ever asked me for gifts and she is gone!  Clearly just a player).  I have had  several long-time regulars ask me for help with some situations and I did help -- because there was no bulshit or lies or games and I WAS in a position to help.  So why not?

But be careful.  Some are after a bigger score than the session fee.  They could play the sick-grandma card, or whatever.  Happens a LOT.

Anyway, I have gone to many dinners with my WG regulars.  It is fun and a blast.  And No, dont take her to the 4Seasons or some other ungodly-expensive place unless it fits your  budget.  There is no point lying to her, pretending you are are more loaded than you are.  How could you keep up such as sham?  Go broke trying?  You are ALREADY FUCKING  HER, anyway.  No, just take her to a nice fun place (ask her what foods she loves) that fits your budget.  Like you would a hot civvie you are trying to impress.   

Some (many) are indeed just after some fun time as well.  A WG once said her life was "99% sex, 1% romance).  They like romance too -- just like any other gal.  Treat her well, enjoy the nite, have great sex, and.., at the end, if you feel uncertain about payment, you could ask her about payment.  Expect to pay, mind you, be prepared for that.  Ask her if this was a date or still work?   I understand the uncertainty.  I have been in this odd grey-zone where it is not terribly clear many times.

Actually I totally get what you're saying. I've recently had a punt where the wg and I had really good chemistry to the point where she doesn't even clock me like her other clients. She still charges me $380 obviously,  but then we fuck for like 3 hours after which we actually cuddle, pillow talk and go outside and hangout.

Have tons of WG who are older than me who starts to talk me up asking if I got a girl and mainly finding out that I am single trying to talk up for me to have relationship with her. But have to say that is probably most tactic of those older WG to try to get you to visit her more often. Asmostly the next visit they won't even remember who you are or that you had visit her before, unless you go daily.

But have to say probably not the best place to find a girlfriend. Just to got LKF and spend some big money and find a girl there as it be quicker with less strategy to get a girl to like you.

Let's just say that you can expect WGs to mix business with pleasure in most of their relationships. The business part involved taking money from you, and giving you sex and companionship in return. The non-business part overlaps with this, and so is difficult to distinguish. Both you and she may end up having feelings that fit nicely into both the business and non-business part of the relationship.

As many have said, the problem comes when its non-business to you, but business to her. And recognize that there is an ebb and flow to this in her mind too. Some days, she might be very willing to be your real GF. Other times, she won't want to put up with your BS without being paid for it. What? You don't have any BS to put up with? You're the nicest guy in the world (apart from me, of course)? Naturally, but even the best of us have problems from time to time in our non-WG relationships, and those are relationships we've been working on for years. They're also with women more mature and committed than your WG girlfriend.

So, what is she to do when she feels a tantrum coming on? Should she let it all out as she would with an ordinary BF? Or should she revert to WG mode, where she can put up with whatever it is that is irritating her, as long as she's being compensated.

Perhaps I can put it this way: In a non-WG relationship, when she gets bored/upset/angry, she can shout and leave. But in a WG relationship, she has another option: take you willingly to the land of the light wallet. So, know what you're getting into. The old saying "we don't pay them to fuck, we pay them to go away afterward" has a lot of merit. But it's true, they're still human, still girls, and still have needs you can fill outside the business relationship -- if you are careful.

Gherk