Subject: sex141 website "smashed" by authorities?
Thai-delight
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Post at 11-12-2013 18:23  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #40 nigel's post

As guests of this forum, we must respect the wishes of those who established and maintained it.  Whether the forum will cease to exist is irrelevant. If you want to know those other websites, ask in forums which don't mind such information being shared.
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Post at 11-12-2013 20:42  Profile P.M. 
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Originally posted by nigel at 12/10/13 10:52 PM
The way I see it is this site (at least the HK section) is never gonna come back. HK government won't allow it. Think about the news if this site is back up again how bad will the police and HK gov look... it'll be ridiculous.

SEX141 has been around since at least 2002 and has gone through at least three different sets of owners, all of whom had been previously charged, convicted and jailed. So either over time the site has been freed up (possibly through owners not renewing the domain name -- because they're in jail) or the site has been passed along or sold to new owners.

The site itself is irrelevant to the police in their case against the owners. The evidence is all in the books (accounting) and records the owners kept. The charges were for conspiracy to live off the avails of prostitution and for money laundering. In the latter it was because the owners were specifically involved in procuring girls. *IF* living off advertising from the site turns out to be an argument from the prosecution (which I seriously doubt because there are very strong arguments to be made for just providing a medium for advertising -- and there are many other online and traditional print media with ads for prostitution) then people will know about it during the trial.

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Post at 11-12-2013 21:11  Profile P.M. 
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by Freelancer at 11-12-2013 20:42

SEX141 has been around since at least 2002 and has gone through at least three different sets of owners, all of whom had been previously charged, convicted and jailed. So either over time the site has been freed up (possibly through owners not renewing the domain name -- because they're in jail) or the site has been passed along or sold to new owners.

The site itself is irrelevant to the police in their case against the owners. The evidence is all in the books (accounting) and records the owners kept. The charges were for conspiracy to live off the avails of prostitution and for money laundering. In the latter it was because the owners were specifically involved in procuring girls. *IF* living off advertising from the site turns out to be an argument from the prosecution (which I seriously doubt because there are very strong arguments to be made for just providing a medium for advertising -- and there are many other online and traditional print media with ads for prostitution) then people will know about it during the trial.

I was going to ask, but you answered my question.

"*IF* living off advertising from the site" that would mean craiglist is illegal as well.
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Post at 11-12-2013 21:48  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #43 johnny12's post

I don't think craigslist is getting any money from the girls...like a fee to post....



I think if you post a ad for a job, there is a fee but I am not 100% sure.
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Post at 11-12-2013 22:11  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #44 Weelock's post

No issue with craiglist. The authority do not go after fugly gals and LB. Owner of craiglist is off the hook from advertising or allowing the ugly gals to advertise.
Give these gals a chance to make a living fr free advert.




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Post at 12-12-2013 00:20  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #41 Thai-delight's post

he knows the other sites so that's not what he wants …

what he wants is something like this … a storm hits a town … the town is cut off from help … people in the town will start to pannic … they start looting, raping and doing things they normally would never do under the rule of law …

what  this nigel is proposing is to relax the law so that looting / raping is allowed until such time law and order is restored …

strange way of thinking for someone who's only been taking from this forum over the last 6 years

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nigel   12-12-2013 11:49  Acceptance  -1   kinda extreme analogy way to put words in my mouth
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Post at 12-12-2013 01:52  Profile P.M. 
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by twiceAweek at 12-12-2013 00:20
he knows the other sites so that's not what he wants …

what he wants is something like this … a storm hits a town … the town is cut off from help … people in the town will start to pannic … they start looting, raping and doing things they normally would never do under the rule of law …

what  this nigel is proposing is to relax the law so that looting / raping is allowed until such time law and order is restored …

strange way of thinking for someone who's only been taking from this forum over the last 6 years

Reminds me of the scene in The Dark Knight, where Alfred Pennyworth (the butler) tells Bruce Wayne/Batman..."Some men just want to watch the world burn."




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Post at 12-12-2013 05:07  Profile P.M. 
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There remain uncertainties about this website's future, but not its present. If this website was a target of the police, it would not still be operating. The only remaining questions concern whether those at the helm of this forum's software and servers are able to continue doing the fine job they have done up to this point.

On this question, we don't know very much. But we do know that the sex141 front page has been changed over the last week, and therefore, someone is indeed running things. We don't know who, and we don't know how the current situation impacts or changes their aspirations for this forum. But we do at least know that server actions can and have been taken on the front page of sex141.

So, reports of the death of this forum seem to be genuinely premature. In the future? Who knows. But for now, the forum is alive and well, and doing what it has always done: provide a medium through which people can exchange stories and ideas about sex.

Gherk

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gaoxing   12-12-2013 23:56  Acceptance  +3   Indeed!
driver888   12-12-2013 19:15  Acceptance  +1   
Tuffbod   12-12-2013 17:42  Acceptance  +4   Well said!
kaleu   12-12-2013 13:42  Acceptance  +30   Exactly! Well said my friend
nigel   12-12-2013 12:00  Acceptance  +1   I've seen another unrelated website die but the forum survived for a few years afterwards. Kinda strange but it happens
Mister   12-12-2013 09:22  Acceptance  +3   A thoughtful, level-headed take, as usual. Don't panic, and know where your towel is.
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Post at 12-12-2013 21:18  Profile P.M. 
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Just got back from a trip, and saw the posts. having read through all the previous posts, I would make the following suggestion.

1. bookmark the main Forum page. that's how I get in without the need of the DB front page.
2. while the website has its main emphasis on HK, the Forum is, in my opinion a much more valuable tool, and could if necessary stand alone. Perhaps we will see the forum continuing to exist as a stand alone product.
3. If it doesn't, then maybe the Mods and admins can come up with a back up plan, so that the Forum can continue its existence on its own.
4. I truly believe that the Forum is worth saving. The community and the Intel here are a true jewel in the world of mongering, and infinity better than Jackson's competing site.

Just my 2 cents worth
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Post at 12-12-2013 22:49  Profile P.M. 
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hi bros
have you checked the modified version of the website xxxxx
it has the same format as the sex141.
earlier this evening it linked to the english website when i clicked on the relevant link but now it links to the chinese 141 website.
but if u click the mobile version it links to the english database.
fyi!!! does this mean it is a matter of time????

[ Last edited by  angst at 13-12-2013 11:06 ]

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Post at 13-12-2013 06:58  Profile P.M. 
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by comatose67 at 5-12-2013 23:12
http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/realtime/breaking/20131205/51966234

Rough translation:

Police NTS smashed Hong Kong's biggest porn sites sex141, providing one-stop services to the group, arranging pro ...

coma -- any further information in the chinese press abt the outcome of the raids and progress of the case / investigation ???
there are changes happening to the 141website. so there is someone in control - it seems
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Post at 14-12-2013 00:56  Profile P.M. 
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The signin page and db are back! Amazing the Phoenix has risen once again.  

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obe   14-12-2013 12:17  Acceptance  +10   Wow so quick! I guess they had back up plans in place.
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Post at 14-12-2013 02:38  Profile P.M. 
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by doghead at 14-12-2013 00:56
The signin page and db are back! Amazing the Phoenix has risen once again.  

Nice.  The game of Cat-and-Mouse begins anew...

And something tells me the return of the sign-in page and database won't be contained in any LE press releases soon! LOL!

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obe   14-12-2013 12:16  Acceptance  +10   hehe




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