Subject: Unbelievable STD Facts from Medhelp
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Apologies if this should be added as an edit, further to my post regarding prevention i found this link (not sure if it is posted already so sorry if its a duplicate) which may help

http://herpes-coldsores.com/preventing_herpes.htm

its not scientific but has some helpful information/advice


edit: just a quick apology. been exploring the forum further and realised I should've added this to the previous message as its within 24hours. helpful note for other newbies;  read the etiquette thread if you have doubts!

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Originally posted by cp141 at 28-7-2011 12:07
I'm still freaked out because I caught chlamydia.  I will never again BBBJ and I am sure I caught it from a KTV girl in CP.  Girls are much cleaner in HK walkups and SN than their China counterpart

sorry, i disagree.  if you think about how many punters are going up to CP and coming back, and getting BBBJs themselves, the possibility for it to spread is great.  the fact that tons of girls in HK also offer BBBJ, your risks are always going to be high without protection.  from discussions with other friends in the states, std awareness/prevention in asia is generally lower, because girls are perceived to be clean.  i find that to be quite a fallacy, and would suggest using protection always if you want to reduce the risk of catching something.
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Originally posted by xusic at 4-8-2011 05:01 AM



sorry, i disagree.  if you think about how many punters are going up to CP and coming back, and getting BBBJs themselves, the possibility for it to spread is great.  the fact that tons of girls in  ...

Actually what I meant was 141 girls are cleaner because none of them offered BBBJ and all provided CBJ vs. automatic BBBJ in mainland....
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Do you become immune once youve caught something?

or do you get repeat infections?
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Reply #104 kw1579's post

HPV yes you get immuned. Chlamydia and gonorrhea, NO have to to take antibiotics all over again. I slipped up with a young KTV WG in CP again ...cuz I was too drunk and she was too hot... Have to get tested again although she looked and tasted pretty clean.....

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TheButler   25-4-2012 11:03  Acceptance  +1   No immunity on HPV, it can come back and there are over 100 strains
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5.  Oral sex is an "inefficient" way to transmit STDs.  Most are not transmitted this way.

While reading the link, it says the above.. STD will not be transmit thr oral sex? can the web answer be trusted?
sounds abit untrue.

the web keep on emphasizing sex workers do not have HIV or STD.
meaning to say if that lady has it.. all will be opposite of the results that stated?


Then are the ways STD or HIV can be transmitted?

I am Curious to know too..
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I always wonder about bbbj and how high or low the chances I think that it is low.of some sort of infection are. I think that it is low.
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The biggest concern with BBBJs is HSV-1. If you already get cold sores then you really don't have to worry about getting it on your "rod or johnson", as you already have built up immunity. Even if you don't get cold sores, there's still a very good chance that you are already seropositive for HSV-1 (e.g., In the U.S. about 60 to 70% of the population). HSV-2 is very unlikely with receptive oral sex.

HSV-2 is much more relevant during intercourse, as it is likely that a high percentage of HK WG have genital HSV-2 and condoms aren't that great at preventing transmission.
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As for HIV, just read pretty much everything Marsupial has posted and you will have the correct information.
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Just curious, where do most you bros go for your regular check ups in the KLN side?
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After the 6 Months guilt trip thinking that my GF got Gonorrhea after giving me a CIM..... i have done alot of research and thinking.

I honestly don't worry about HIV anymore as I never ever will fuck anyone without a condom period, and I dont get drunk because I dont enjoy drinking. A yes its easier to be Guy as the chances are for guys get HIV is lower than girls and even so with the protection its safe to say its highly unlikely.

I set some rules for myself after that scare:

1. I keep my mongering to as little as possible & hopefully I can get rid of the urge. Have not monger for 6 months , compare to 4 to 10 times a month in the past I consider myself being much more responsible than in the past already.

2. I only go for BJ (BBBJ or CBJ) now, firstly because its "safer" compare to vaginal and anal intercourse & call me an asshole the chances for the receiver of getting something is much less compare to the giver.

3. Stay Healthy & encourage your partner too, a strong immune system can suppress some STD's like HPV.

4. Check up every 3 months, if you monger more frequently, a check up monthly is advisable especially you have a wife or in a serious relationship.

5. Facts:

Sorry to break it guys. MOST SEXUALLY ACTIVE PEOPLE HAVE HPV. Just that only 1% of people have outbreaks & woman is harder to tell as they need to do a pap smear to find out most of the times. HPV or warts is more like a Skin disease, its easily transmissible even with protection. The good news is that a healthy immune system can 99% of the time suppress that dam thing. So as I mention stay healthy guys. the 1% that experience an outbreak are normally people with weak immune system. As a result please always encourage your partner to have a Pap Smear check up occasionally, as HPV outbreak can hide in your body for years waiting for your immune system to weaken so they can break out. The better news is that even if a woman get infected with HPV it normally take up to eight or more years before cancer will develop to a deadly stage, as a result 3 years 1 time pap smear test is frequent enough. If you Monger its your responsibility tell your wife or your GF to do a pap smear (hell even tell your mum who knows if you got your mongering genes from your dad or not )

Gonorrhoea, Chlamydia, Syphilis are curable so get check up boys frequently, the incubation period can be up to 3 months, as a result for example, I got  BBBJ only ytd So i should check up Feb 12th 2012 to get the most accurate results. During this time when me and GF do it, I will make sure that I have no cuts on my bro, wash it clean (dont fucking scratch it), protected at all times and I would even turn down a BBBJ even if my GF offer me one. THere can be many excuses for turning down a BBBJ, "we just did it". "I want to fuck you more" (Make sure you wear condom correctly too). Make your partner as wet as possible to avoid possible tear in their vagina, if you got a big dick be gentle when going in and slowly thrusting for a dozen time first (it also makes the girl feel a bit romantic when you do it slowly initially & they get wetter too ).

Herpes: Scariest of All: You could be a silent carrier, medical check up is not exactly accurate, you can have it they can still miss it. You can get HSV 1 & 2 whether oral, vaginal or Anal sex.  HSV 1 & 2 are deadly but HSV 2 is the one that is scariest. I don't want to sound like an arse hole. IF one day you and your partner show results for HSV 1 positive, and you are too scare to tell her that you got it from mongering, HSV 1 can sometime be mixed up with chicken pox virus, so you may come up with HSV 1 positive but actually not having it depending on which method the clinic uses to diagnoses you.

The guilt trip got me thinking. I want to hold it and not monger but unfortunately its my nature to spread my seeds. Work pressure is a pain to both partners in Hong Kong and it can severely affect our sex lives leading to dull and uninteresting sex. No matter what reason when you monger you not risking just yourself (REMEMBER). I monger alot in the past going to thailand, and many other parts in China to monger too, & I love BBBJ's and luckily my latest test show all negative. But then again don't count on it. I personally accepted the fact that I got HPV already as the chances are totally against me unless I have sex with only one person in mylife and that person has me as her only sexual partner too in her life or no sex at all. Getting drunk and doing stupid things is bad & I am not kidding. I took a friend from America to Monger in GZ, he was drunk and after the session finish he told me he went bareback because they girl insisted. I was so mad I just wanted to push him down the stairs and kill him. If you can't hold yourself together when getting drunk dont fucking fuck around period. Go home, sleep at the fucking toilet, don't monger if you drunkess can make u go bareback on vaginal & anal sex. He got check up lucky for him nothing positive when he got back to the States, but fuck this shit & I mean fuck this shit... he got me worried even though he is single.

Some of the STDS are actually skin diseases, the fact is if you are in a serious relationship, lower your mongering to a level of necessity or even try to get rid of it all together. I only do BJs (as little as possible too) now for selfish reason as I dont get it as much from my partner as she is tired, and its lower risk compare to Vaginal and ANal sex, & for my selfish reason the giver is at higher risk than the receiver me. Even so Check up three months each time at minimum, safe sex with partner, drop the manly ego of being rough on your partner, you may hurt her physically and those physical wounds can get her infected if you caught something. Be responsible encourage them to go for pap smear, and together stay healthy together. I supply her with Mix vitamin and also eat salads with her as much as possible (since i need to loose some weight too). If possible during the incubation period avoid BBBJ and there are safer ways for sex. Having her suck my balls while I jack off on her face instead of BBBJ (dont shoot her fucking eye by the way). I finger her until she cums, sometimes multiple times, I get her so tired after that she will just falls asleep and I just let her sleep..... if vaginal sex the old rule, wear condom make sure its property worn, and make sure no tears on your penis & don't be rough.....No matter how small the risk is...its still too big, being responsible afterwards is really the only thing to do, its not a justification to monger but just to be a responsible human being and lower chances to even lower......

SAFE MONGERING GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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markarl   30-3-2012 22:42  Acceptance  -1   i think people just need to use some common-sense and make their own choices. p ...
owen10   29-1-2012 23:40  Karma  -1   Post can be very misleading to readers
issacbleeder   14-11-2011 04:35  Karma  +3   Excellent post
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Do any girls provide results from regular check ups? Asked in another thread but this place is more appropriate to post. Of course in between the test and now, she might have gotten a STI but it is a lot better than nothing. Love 69, love going down on girls,  but I'm so scared of STIs from WGs.
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still always be safe by wearing protection
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Good post Bchung, I try to also always adhere to condom at all time rule, well for BJs i'm 50/50 about using one though ... ;)

P.S. yeah no cum in eyes, but also watch out for the nose of the girl...
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I just wanted to share this link because previously I saw some brothers on the forum implying to others HIV-1 is not a big deal and quite common among WGs. So here is some info on it and why they are equally dangerous. HIV-1 and 2 are both serious stuff.

http://jacoblee123.hubpages.com/ ... e-Major-Differences
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Owen: You are confusing HSV (herpes) with HIV (well, umm, HIV). I imagine most people consider either strain of HIV to be very serious.
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honestly I really doubt the accuracy of the statistics. If u really want to play safe, please always do it with RUBBER unless you can 100% ensure the gals are virgins.

Anyway, in hong kong it always goes without saying "you go to play, you expect to pay""
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Had a check up done in HK after a "scare" a couple of months ago.  Doctor stated in HK from his experience (this is at Neo Health Care in Central) that 50% of chlamydia cases come from BBBJ.  I asked him why the "medhelp" website in the US state that std from BBBJ is very low risk.  His answer was that in his opinion/experience since CIM is much more prevalent in Hong Kong than in the US which might account for the MUCH higher rates of infection from BBBJ.

My scare turned out to be negative.  Had Chlamydia type symptoms but all tests came back negative.  I had a HG girl (who was amazing BTW) who did WBJ/BBBJ for a long time before we capped and went at it. I tried to prolong the pounding and ended up losing my erection.  She very kindly and tenderly said she'd take care of me.  She first started to HJ and CBJ me with the same condom we had used for intercourse.  As it kinda got in the way she rips it off and continued to HJ and BBBJ me until I got hard again and came all over her tits ala porn movies.  My mistake was in allowing her to use the same hand and to BBBJ me after CBJ on a potentially contaminated condom.

I didn't realize my mistake until after I was symptomatic.

Luckily for me every test came back negative...

Moral of my story is to ALWAYS be safe...especially if you have an SO!!!
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If you were symptomatic? then what where your symptoms?

and then if it wasn't chlamydia, what did the doctor say it was? and what did he prescribe anyways?
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Chlamydia type symptoms...burning while pissing and some drip.  Even got tested for basic bacterial infection which came back negative as well.

Got treated with antibiotics, and also for possible yeast infection from different doc.

May have just been a yeast thing...doc was stumped.

Read on line that some NSU infections don't have a test for them but have similar symptoms as chlamydia.

Medhelp.org has a forum section with many posts answered by actual docs who work at STD clinics.

Many NSU's can be simply caused by the differing bacteria in a giver's mouth while receiving a BBBJ.

Rarely, vigorous sex/masturbation can cause symptoms similar to bacterial STD's.

For me the timing was too coincidental for me to ignore.  CBJ's only from now on...scared the hell outta me
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