Subject: Losing virginity to a WG - yes or no?
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You are 18 years old and can't remember whether you lostyour virginity at 15 or 16?

  I was about to make the same comment but you beat me to it !  

I can remember everything about my first time and I'm sure most bros ... in fact, most men and women will remember their their age when they did it their first time !
2 years on and not sure ? that's bull !!!

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SexNavigator   1-8-2012 14:33  Acceptance  +1   Sorry dude. But I will be more specific next time. It was when I was 15 & 3/4 ye ...
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hmmm

I can't help but think some peeps are confusing "special" with"memorable".  My first time was memorable, but certainly not special.  I think ths same is true for most men. plus you'll likely be clumsy, awkward nervous-which is the memory she'll have of you!  

Sex, with a woman you love is special indeed -but not whether it's you're firsttime or not.
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Reply #20 WWHK's post

It was actually when I was around 15 & 3/4 years old. Gave it a thought after reading your post.
I didn't use to have regular sex with WGs at 16 but I did try it for a couple of times with WGs at that age.

Are you a westerner? I am planning to go to one of the mongering bars and since I am an Indian, most likely I will have to pay the cover charge. We can meet up sometime and this way I won't have to pay a cover charge and you can clear all your doubts. What do you say?
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Reply #23 SexNavigator's post

Haha I don't see much of an upside for me, however drop me a pm when you are heading to wanch and if I am about I will show you around

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As it all happened so long ago for me can I make one last comment and then withdraw.

Perhaps the OP is undergoing another rite of passage at the moment, learning to drive a car, just like many 19 year old men world wide.  While it is an experience to get in the car, turn on the engine and pull away for the first time.  You need an instructor by your side.  More exciting is when you have passed your test and are qualified to drive alone.  You have achieved a great deal and you will always learn more as you gain experience.  More important you have earned the freedom of the road and a whole new world is opening up for you.  It no longer matters what car you were driving when you first took control of a car.

Similarly, from my own experience, the very first time was memorable.  MUCH more IMPORTANT looking back, was the first time I brought a woman to a climax!.  Not many men discuss this!.  Marginally less important were the first oral and anal orgasms.  The freedom to drive to me was very similar to the joy of my partner's climax.  You have joined the adult world.  Make the most of it.

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My few renminbis worth here. I think it's ok to fuck WG for your first time if you reallythink you won't get any civvie sex in the near future. The way I see it, even if you've already lost your v-hole to a WG, you'll still remember the first time you sex a civvie.ncivvie sex is always something one remembers. Also, by getting more practice with WGs, you'll for sure be able to perform better the first time you do it with a civvie. If not perform better, at the very least last a bit longer. Just remember that when having sex with civvies, don't expect the sex routine to be a) catbath on back, b) nipple sucking, c) BBBJ followed by d) penetration. Maybe the routine is similar except YOU are theone initiating everything.

Cheers.

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xiaodidi   22-8-2012 09:38  Karma  +1   you speak the truth
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@Wander..... It's because I have a PURE heart! PUWHAHAHAHA =)~
Pure. and Innocent. Yeeep. that's me. totally.

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Don't take this the wrong way: but for a forum full of men who do things deemed "immoral" by much of society, you guys are probably the most insightful & wise men I have encountered on the internet. If I asked anywhere else, I would've been ridiculed & given some condescending, self-righteous advice from some schmuck who's probably more interested in impressing his internet buddies than helping me.

I'm not caving in to peer pressure, but ever since I first connected to the internet from those AOL discs in the mail I've been curious about sex - the lion is coming out of the den if you know what I'm saying.

DArtagnan, your post is on point - it might be better to go for a massage and see how I feel about it, although my response will probably be positive. That "creep" vs "wuss" thing was too real...all I think is "Is this girl DTF?" & "If she says no I'm going to look dumb"...my mind is pretty blown. Guess I need to start that "mental workout".

OH and e151sqlover...I AM learning to drive this summer...just got my HK license.

To everyone who posted, thanks for understanding where I'm coming from, and giving me legitimate advice or your own experience...it has helped a ton.

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Reply #28 WantThisForever's post

i am def not the younger ones on this site but still earned a lot from many people here.  One thing I'll tell you is most people here are open & not judgemental.  Its almost DUMB NOT to ask if it wasn't brought up before.

Almost anyone can just have "sex"....but if you want to do well, you just have to build your craft.  Having game with women is far more more rewarding.  I have seen so called fat men have game out their ass.  Yeah, it does help if you got cash protruding out your wallet but there is no better sensation to have women eating out of your palm.  Just remember it takes a lot of trail & error....even the best guys gets turned down.....just keep on going & don't start the self pity  like I am fat, i am ugly, i am short, i am stupid, etc....

[ Last edited by  sirtiger at 1-8-2012 13:26 ]

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UncleDad   2-8-2012 03:09  Acceptance  +2   Yeah...?! Well...You'RE DUMB! haha...j/k j/k. totally (not) judging =)~
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Originally posted by sirtiger at 2-8-2012 02:22
but ever since I first connected to the internet from those AOL discs in the mail I've been curious about sex  ...

er ... you're 19, right? ... OF COURSE you've spent every waking minute (and most of your dreaming minutes) of the past 5 years thinking about sex.  That's what guys do!!!

Relax, it'll happen

but do bear in mind it's a bit like going to the movies.
I mean, you know those movies that your friends rave about and say you absolutely MUST go and see?  They turn out to be a bit lame ...
... but the movie they say was a bit so-so and they won't watch again, turns out to be utterly hilarious and hits all your buttons.

Sex is very individual, very hit-and-miss.  Until you get some practice that is   You need to learn to do it, just as you had to learn to walk, or talk, or (actually) everything you do today aside from screaming and pooping.  And it DEFINITELY gets better with practice.  WHICH MEANS the more comfortable you are with failing, and the more often you crash and burn today, the quicker you arrive at the day you succeed.  

BTW ... don't get jealous of hot girls who seem to be in the driving seat, and making all the choices ... actually you might want to feel sorry for them ...
truth is girls mature about 10 years earlier than guys do - which means they get into sex / marriage / etc much earlier and easier.  

But your day will come

A girl's "golden years" are from 25-35 ... those are the years she is best-looking, most attractive, and her career and relationships fly

A guy's Golden Years are from 35-45 ... the years you become a hot property that everyone wants to employ, and - yes - everyone wants to fuck

So be sorry for the poor girls, who are going to be over the hill, and starting to experience true rejection for the first time, just as you're getting traction and being chased by flocks of precisely those younger sexier girls who aren't giving you a second look today because they're trying to snag someone twice your age.  A 40 year-old girl is wondering what she did wrong, and why she isn't getting any attention any more - while a 40 year old guy has been through precisely the cruicble you're in now, and is a hot property who (if he was determined and resilient) already learned the skills to make it work for him.  

Go for it, take the shots you get,

knowing that if a girl turns you down, it's her loss not yours

If you're on the internet, search pickup artists, there's a TON of free stuff out there, and you only need a little bit of it to have the edge.

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Reply #1 WantThisForever's post

If you fuck the WG with condom, that doesnt count as losing your Virginity.....

It needs to be bare, no restriction, skin to skin........and full creampie penetration. That;s losing your virginity in the purest form.

So, think about it.....the risk vs pleasure vs reason to lose V

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DArtagnan   2-8-2012 15:46  Acceptance  +1   Hilarious as usual!!!
doghead   2-8-2012 12:49  Acceptance  +5   By ur definition then some of us lost our virginity on our wedding night




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i dont think losing ur viginity shud be put on such a pedestal
if u WANT to bang a hot WG, then go do it
10 years from now, u wont really care how it happend

if u want to get it over with just to get it over with , then just do it
but make sure u let the WG know u r a virgin and maybe work out a multi-shot session or extra time
u dont wanna P.E., pay and then have that feeling of, what just happend
u wanna walk out feeling like it was a good experience
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Reply #32 jsmithj88's post

I regret I lost my Virginity to the wrong gal.
She became another bugger's wife!!!




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Reply #32 jsmithj88's post

... there are different points of view ... which are contrasting not contradictory ...

in my view sex with someone who WANTS you is a very different experience compared to sex with someone who's WILLING to be fucked by you, for money or for some other non-sexual benefit

yes, an orgasm is an orgasm, and any orgasm is better than no orgasm
but to me an orgasm inside a pussy is much more fun than an orgasm into a fist (yours or another person's)

AND an orgasm inside a girl who is also having an orgasm at the same time, who is doing it for no other reason than her desire to have that orgasm and her desire to give you yours, is in my opinion a peak experience ...

not disagreeing with those who say that sex is sex paid or unpaid: for those who feel that is true, it's true,

just sharing my own fetish    which is a bit different




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QUOTE:
Originally posted by DArtagnan at 2-8-2012 15:52
just sharing my own fetish which is a bit different

You've stated/defended your opinion three times now in this thread (quite eloquently as usual), and I think your opinion is shared my more than half of the readers.  

So I wonder why you feel your point of view is different or in need of such defense?
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This is one of those two-sided arguments that you could keep considering until your last breath!

The upside is it 'could' help you build confidence (could, not will...) and it takes some of the social pressure off you

BUT

depending on the girl a good time isn't a given. The same is true of non WG's but the psychological aspect of this might be something tha may, as others have said, impact your sexual development for years to come. I know several friends who are very odd in their behavior towards women and sex in general as their early experiences were, in their words, pretty bad.

Possibly the worst outcome is that you don't get any confidence from the experience and it hangs over you. Maybe you end up thinking that it isn't 'real' etc. and you struggle to build the social skills that are necessary in a 'normal' (if there is such a thing?) relationship. As a result it could take you longer to come round. Another issue is that it isn't 'makinglove', it's just 'sex'. There's a big difference.

The good outcome is that it helps you leave behind your previous self-image concerns and enter relationships with women from a position of confidence and lose the stress of being a virgin.

Ultimately, only you can make the decision. My choice would be to socialise and maybe meet girls in a social environment (bars, clubs etc.) but I've made plenty of mistakes in life so have no right to say which is the right one for you.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by hunter at 2-8-2012 15:50
I regret I lost my Virginity to the wrong gal.
She became another bugger's wife!!!

I'd regret losing my virginity to the RIGHT girl. One pussy all my life! although...i suppose tho i wouldn't be on this site if that were the case. hahaha =)~

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I say wait and give yourself a chance to find a gf.  I mean ur young and already put some effort in building confidence by getting in better shape, why not just give yourselfa chance and try finding someone first...I know the curiosity of having sex is probablywhy you want to go with a wg, it's a quick and guarantee thing but I recommend waiting and really try getting out there and meeting someone...what the worst that can happen? A girl says no?  Then move on to the next one and try again... Good luck!
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Reply #10 e151sqlover's post

Do guys have a cherry to pop? Anyway, I agree with you. Virginity is terribly over-rated for a guy - a girl doesn't know if you are or not, so it's not sth physical that needs preserving. I lost mine in the back of my car to a fat skanky blonde bitch with big tits, who had the habit of putting out her ciggie in cups. Do I regret that? Hell no! Got the first notch off my belt.  Same thing if I saw a pro. Get it out of the way.
Wander: at 12? your first wank doesn't count mate.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by DArtagnan at 2-8-2012 15:52
... there are different points of view ... which are contrasting not contradictory ...

in my view sex with someone who WANTS you is a very different experience compared to sex with someone who's WIL ...

yea but how often r u gonna give a chick that type of orgasm on ur first try?
he will prolly be done in a minute, haha,  so what ur describing is the absolute best scenario for him, which is prolly unlikely
most people arent gonna stay with their first g/f or sex partner, so i say just do it
he will have some sort of experience when he meets a civie chick
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