Subject: Could you offer money to a civilian to have sex with her ?
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Could you offer money to a civilian to have sex with her ?

Hi bros,

I've already came accross someone asking this question on one forum and the answer was quite a consensus. I'm not telling you what was the answer, I's rather know your take on this question.

Imagine you know, from one source or another , a young cutie (more than 18) who was in need of money. The girl turns you on. Could you offer money to her
to have sex with you ?




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Personally for me, if there were legal issues to it, then no.  I am not willing to risk jail time or fines or anything like that for sex for money.  If I am not violating the law, then time to look to see if it is a fair deal.  If I think she is working the moneys and goes along with it with out any drama sure.  I am lazy and do not want repercussions.
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I dont pick up civilians because I want to keep my life as simple as possible. I dont want others finding out about my little indiscretions.

WGs are as close to 'no strings attached' as you can get because they generally don't want their private lives made public, and, by their very nature, girls who sleep with men for money aren't considered reliable sources of info.

By paying a civi you create a situation with too many uncontrollable variables. Secrets get out, she plays the victim, Prince is dethroned
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Post at 6-3-2010 19:14  Profile P.M. 
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Could you?  Yes.  Should you?  No.

Aside from the potential ramifications in your personal life, in the forums here it seems that this will probably bring up the whole sugar-daddy relationships...which in turn will lead to the frowned upon "compensated dating" discussion.  Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but I say this topic/thread should probably just be left alone.
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Post at 6-3-2010 19:35  Profile P.M. 
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Yes no maybe perhaps?.


As said Yes you could but would you no!

There will be strings attached, and FFS some girls to protect their dignity will say you raped them and that will get YOU in a whole world of shit. I've seen this happen fat ugly girls who go with fat ugly men who wake up in the morning and are embarrassed to shit about having consentually slept with that guy. Or don't want to be thought of as slags, in the 1990s where was a case every week in the papers about such rapes, it always boiled down to one person's word vs another's.

In the UK it is particularly harsh as many people here still believe the adage of no smoke without fire, and even when it goes to court and the man is acquitted, narrow minded people STILL believe he did it but got away with it, which means they lose their homes, jobs and evetything  and have to start again.

Curiously in the UK even if you are accused and acquitted of a rape you STILL are put on the sex offenders register

You fuck 'em they suddenly can blackmail you into giving them more money or they will tell your wife. WGs by enlarge don't know who you are etc so this is less of a danger.

Christ in the UK lots of women have sex with footballers then they turn round and blackmail the footballers saying if they don't hand over money they will report it as a rape.

So stick to WGs it is safer.




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In the words of George Carlin "Buying is legal.  Fucking is legal.  Then why isn't buying fuck legal?"  Aside from paying the civilian with cash, there are other ways around it.  It could be through other services rendered, favors granted, or generally good will.  That's the messed up part about our society, you could buy a expensive dress/jewelry or dinner for a chick in exchange for sex, but when you try to cut the middle man out by giving her cash, then it becomes illegal.
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I think it depends on where are you and the culture.. in japan.. the living expenses are pretty high and yet you can see the students there are crazy about branded stuffs.. most of the time they tend to resort to selling their body in exchange of branded goods.. they will tend to depend on how much you are paying and if you are good looking..
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tempting, but like princeandnpg, better to keep life simple since the circles this girl may be from could one day haunt you from the indiscretion lol
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Very interesting replies. Actually, I've seen this question asked in two forums and I've never read such replies. Thanks for all your contribution.




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there is a papason in zhuhai that would do that for you.
you would have to tell him who and where she works.
he will send a girl and try to get her to do it for a price.
any girl you see in (hotel,bar,shops,restaurants,ect.

i asked him to get me a border enforcer, but he said no no no cops. lol
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Reply #1 conqueror77's post

I would say it all comes down to how you do it.

If you say, Prostitute yourself and sleep with me I will give you this money!, first off, she'd want to really need that money, because most 'normal' girls, even when desperate, would see prostitution as something they would not do. I wonder how many girls on the game got into it because I guy asked them, or because they were desperate and their (female) friends told them about it. I would guess the majority would be the latter.

Some very un-subtle hints and offers to help out with her problems would be the way to go. Let her justify to herself - I am not a prostitute, I'm doing what I want to do; this is a one-time thing... I don't think I could just call her and ask her straight up, it might take a few visits or calls... In which case, I may as well just go date a normal girl and forget about the money altogether - which I'm sick of, so it would all come back to "Why bother - just hit up 141 and avoid so many problems!"

Interesting discussion. I don't think legally there is a problem. What makes a girl turn to prostitution in the first place; how desperate does she have to be.. Oh no, that's right, they're all just doing it because they love sex and the money is a bonus!

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Reply #1 conqueror77's post

I think the question really is, would the girl be willing to have sex for money?
As I am sure, since most here pay money to hookers for sex, they will more than likely pay a civilian - where raw sex may be possible due to lower risks and knowledge of sex partners etc.
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Reply #12 cbd's post

I'm not so sure most bros are likely to offer monay to civilian. Not many people read this thread, so we cannot really know what could do the majority.
In the two others forums where this question was asked people answered no. In one of the two forums most people showed contempt to the member who enquired on this matter judging he has low morals. In the over forum, one member wanted to know if it was ok to offer money for sex to a girl who was looking for a babysiting job. The few members who replied advised him not to do so on morals ground but also because of the legal consequences, threats and family break-up it could lead, just like other bros have said here.




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does factory girls or sauna girls count? in that case yes
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Easy money for them sure why not? If you've ever smoked some herbs, im sure u paid for that, which counts as illegal activity
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Originally posted by Tristiany at 6-3-2010 23:23
I think it depends on where are you and the culture.. in japan.. the living expenses are pretty high and yet you can see the students there are crazy about branded stuffs.. most of the time they tend  ...

So in Japanese culture, it is acceptable for young girls to go out and have sex for money?  I'm sure there would laws against that.  The main concern for government is human trafficking.  Since these girls are doing it willingly for buying brand stuff, I have no objections to paying them for sex.
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with enough money you can buy anything, but do you really want ot deal with all the headaches that could come with it?  since they're not professional they might take it seroiusly and think of this as a real relationship.
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Reply #16 agamemnon33's post

of course the law part is a touchy issue.. the young girls part is also depending to what is your "young" liking.. above 18 or etc etc etc..

people tend to be evasive on this but if you really want to play safe and cover your own ass, you might want to do some homework before trying.. one is such as Singapore, to my understanding it is legal for prostitution and it is illegal to solicitate for sex..
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Reply #13 conqueror77's post

WTF, that seems really stupid. It is not like you are forcing yourself on the girl against her will - and I should make it clear that that is the point where the line is crossed and you would deserve all the consequences you would (hopefully) receive! Are these other forums even mongering-related?

So these guys are happy to pay for sex once the girl is already prostituting, but they would not want to be the one to start her into it? Personally I don't differentiate between working and normal girls, but obviously the guys on this other forum make moral judgements between the two. How can you be happy mongering and then say it is immoral to offer a girl money for sex? That makes no sense to me!!!

Personally, so long as the girl is not forced into anything she doesn't want to do, I have no problem with this, and I would certainly not berate a bro for doing it. If anything, I would give him a thumbs up!   

I would expect those responses from the wider community, who as we all know like to fool themselves they are better people on the higher moral ground!! Seems like some of these people on the other forums have (not well) hidden guilt over their mongering. Are they even real, active mongers?

As for the other risks mentioned, there is no difference to any 'regular' mongering or even having an affair - and we know bros do that stuff all the time!
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Reply #19 lister01's post

Thanks bro for your insightful reply.

Yes, those two forums are mongering related. The first one is particular. Actually, it's a forum about prostitution in France and it's is host by an legit forum talking about any issue related to health. The member on this prostitution forum has members who are customers of prostitutes, prostitutes as well, and people who are neither customer nor prostitutes. The forum is controlled by a small group of prostitutes and some moralists customers who slag off and despise anyone who hold a different view from theirs. And everybody seem to surrender to their dictatorship of views but a few people. I was just a lurker on this forum, I didn't want to waste my time debating with them.
The second forum is my Mecca !!! I mean, it has become a kind of holy place for me. That's the forum where I discovered mongering and its full potency, late 2006. It's even through this forum that I discovered sex141 two years ago. I was like a child when I discovered that forum and they guided my paths into this hobby. Only a few people replied to the question of the guy who wanted to offer money for sex to a gal looking a baby-sitting job saying it was not on. So, it cannot reflect the view of the majority, and nobody showed contempt to the questionner.

I fully agree with you when you write

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So these guys are happy to pay for sex once the girl is already prostituting, but they would not want to be the one to start her into it? Personally I don't differentiate between working and normal girls, but obviously the guys on this other forum make moral judgements between the two. How can you be happy mongering and then say it is immoral to offer a girl money for sex? That makes no sense to me!!!"

As far as I'm concerned, I would not offer money for sex to a civilian for the only reason I wouldn't feel confortable doing so. Otherwise I would have already done it. This is because there's great chance she would feel offended and I'm only bound to get insulted for this move. There's no benefit with this kind of move. It's like going to a girl and saying: "Hey...you wanna fuck ?". You know all you gonna get is at least a "Fuck off...looser !!!".
Now, if one is a skilled talker and can find a way to offer this without the girl to take offense...I say lucky guy...but I'm not that kind of guy, thus I would refrain myself to do so.
I would feel more confortable in a situation where a girl that I fancy (and we're not goo friends) comes to me with a sob story asking me if I could lend/give her a significant amount of money (I mean equivalent to what an average escort would ask). I would let her know I don't trust anyone enough to lend them money and I don't give anyone the money I had hard time to earn. I let her know I fancy her and I'm willing to satisfy her need of money if she satisfies my need of her charm. There's still big chance she gets offended, but in this case she needs the cash, so she might put her pride aside.
So, the only difference is, unlike the other situation, here I might offend the girl but still get what I want if that's the only way she thinks she can get the fast cash she needs. In the other situation, I would offend the girl needlessly in as much I know it's almost impossible that a civilian girl not in need would accept money for sex.

Cheers.

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