Apologies on the delay in writing this up, but it recently came to my attention from friends & other bros that she is letting people down lately, so here is what happened and other bros feel free to comment.

I have reported on Lina or 'Cinta Bella' - another name she goes by. I had an amazing night with her before. Report here: http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... 1418&highlight=

We always stayed in touch and I even helped her out recommending her to friends and even helping her post on some sites over the summer. She was due back first week of October from Bali. We confirmed everything all the way down to meeting early morning and spending the whole day together, I even booked a very nice hotel for the whole thing. I just got back to Shenzhen from meeting bros in Bangkok, then was planning on going back to HK to meet her. The day before we were due to meet, she messages me saying she has decided to stay in Bali for one more week as she has 'met a guy' she likes and he has paid for her to delay her flight! WTF?! we were due to meet in less than 12 hours!

I was seriously pissed! I could not even cancel the hotel now. No sorry or nothing, how long had she known? I decided then that I just would no longer do anything for her, she even messaged me after that to start posting on sites for her in HK, I did not even reply after this and she stopped messaging me.

I am sorry I did not post this sooner, but I have just found out off a couple of bros & friends she has recently done similar things to them in Macau. So a small warning guys, take what she says with a pinch of salt, do not go out of your way for this girl. I am not saying avoid her, but just be careful.

I'm writing my report in the Macau section as that's where she's been working of late. You can read it there.

We had an appointment today, made early in the week, and she contacted me last night at a work-related event to ask if I'd booked tickets. Of course I had and I'd sent her an image of the ferry tickets.

Lina's best described as a semi-pro, but so far has been reliable on keeping appointments. She's a bit eccentric but I like that. However, when she was telling me not to come to Macau as she was busy with another guy (I'm not going into circumstances, that's her business), I confess I was not pleased.

As Petay mentioned above, this isn't the first time she's done this, and she's had a host of other problems/excuses. In short: you should think twice before making a date with this freelancer. If she makes it back to HK and starts working again, just have a backup. But be advised that if you're making a special trip to Macau, she doesn't seem concerned with the expense and effort involved. Being brushed off like a fly did not sit well with me.

As ever, YMMV. And if the guy who created a macau.cracker.com ad for her sees this, maybe consider not doing her, or us, any such favors, thanks bro.

JtB

I'm normally a chilled-out guy but frankly, I was livid. Like many in HK, I've spent the past few weeks working damn hard on end-of-year tasks. Took Friday off to head to Macau. But on Thursday night I was at an event, work-related, with a lot of important people related to my industry. It's a fun time but it IS work--gotta go around, exchange the bizcards, all that.

And right in the middle of it I start getting these texts from Lina. WTF? I'm firing back quick texts and getting massive melodrama/sob stories: please don't be angry, I was wrong, I'll never do it again...sounding like some dysfunctional high-school girlfriend. My phone's buzzing in my pocket like some overcaffeinated wasp.

WGs from SE Asia know their ROI is much higher in Hong Kong, especially for slim & attractive freelancers who can speak English. Lina and I have had a lot of great fun--she's said she wants to earn funds before returning to Indonesia, where they will go a lot farther.  But she seemed to have forgotten to take care of her premier clients. Had she said: don't come to Macau, Jack--I got a high-roller here, that would have been fine. Instead I got this weeping heap of steaming excuses.

Of course there are plenty of WGs in HK and after refunding my ferry tickets, I went Kowloonside and looked up one I hadn't seen in awhile, she was very glad to see me. Had a great time.

Things happen, but compare my experience with Petay's and a pattern emerges. One advantage of this forum is we share information. Of course we mongers talk to each other, why wouldn't we? So if she returns, and you wanna toss the Lina dice, just be sure to have a backup plan in case it comes up snake-eyes.

JtB

[ Last edited by  JackTheBat at 16-12-2017 09:52 ]

I was meant to meet her friend at HK Café in Wan Chai mid October and thankfully that all fell through...
Mind you I had just come back from BKK and Pattaya and little Obe needed a break.

Obe

Ramont,

Did you have a similar experience or just moved on?

Warnings on unreliable WGs are just as important as reviews on winners IMHO.

Obe

Kinda booked her a few weeks ago when i was planning to do a Saturday in Macau and she was responsive but kinda hard work through the messaging.

She refused the overnight saying that she had a regular coming from HK (fair enough but a simple "I can't" without the details would have been enough) and was difficult to confirm the time/length of session saying I would have to leave as soon as the other guy messaged to say he was getting off the ferry.  

Was still going to give her a go but got fucked up the night before and ended up with an Indo freelancer (coincidentally) from Flame who was still rampant until midday the day after so was too tired to go - goddammit another report I owe lol. I messaged to say sorry with plenty of notice and got a "Whatever, plenty more fish" weird reply.

Think the next day she did a short notice cancellation on JtB probably because the other bro from HK offered her something else.....

If shes will around when I/m next in Macau will still give her a go and vent all the bro's frustrations on her :-)

[ Last edited by  aurufc at 16-12-2017 13:08 ]

Before we all start lacing up our Doc Martens, let's remember that transactions with WGs are always negotiated to some degree. Sex work is a job and seldom a career. But the workers are people and even though we're the clients (we get the invoice, what the hell else would we be?) and deserve respect unless they are so disrespectful that they lose that privilege. Even after that, while we might want nothing more to do with them, they're still people...hope you know where I'm coming from with this, I'm not trying to be philosophical, just presenting observations and opinions.

aurufc, she demonstrated her flakiness by not exactly making a plan with you but expecting you to understand circumstances relevant to HER, not to YOU. This is what I call being self-centered, which she absolutely is. However, you did message to cancel a not-fully-booked appt--good etiquette. I don't know what to make of her response.

Self-centered she is, but I'd not say she suffers from over-entitlement, joey88. I'm not going to go into Lina's situation, that's not appropriate. But her planning is scattershot at best. Yes, obe, there's a pattern.

More disclosure: I've seen this girl...more than a few times. She talks a lot but I enjoy her somewhat twisted view of life. She does not have it easy, and while some of her problems are of her own making, her circumstances are not ideal. Planning: last month I mentioned my phone calendar, she said what's that. I took her phone and showed her the calendar function. Semi-pro is one thing, not planning on a calendar is another--for a freelancer. Despite this, she's been prompt and honest with me, until this week. Flaky, yes, but not flaked-out.

I went to Macau the weekend before, got a hotel room (I have other reasons to go to Macau), she came over and we had a fabulous time. She was grateful I'd come over from HK. So I messaged her and said, how about a daytrip Friday, get a short-time hotel and have fun. It sounded kinda sleazy and fun and I need a break from work, and we're familiar with each other and what we like, so she was enthusiastic. Turns out there was some other guy (NOT a HK-based bro, aurufc) but she didn't tell me about this until I was at this work event because (I'm sorta guessing here, but not far off) she thought this other guy would be at work, then it turned out he wasn't. Self-centered & bad planning.

I sent her some sharp messages, and I think she then tried to clear her sched by lying to the guy she was spending the week with (possibly--guessing again). Later, when I'm going home via MTR, she sends me a message saying "you're coming to Macau, right?" As if she'd talked this guy into some imaginary disappearing trick (pun intended), was gonna rush to the ST hotel, fuck me, then go back to this other clown. I mean, maybe he's a swell fellow but he doesn't live in either Macau or Indonesia so if she wants to empty his wallet, then let me know so I won't buy ferry tickets and clear my sched.

"No." I texted her. "You made your choice." She'd been stringing this guy along all week (I guess) and he wasn't pleased. I think her failed ruse aroused his suspicions. So by trying to arrange things so could get everything she wanted, she ended up with less than she expected. Karma? Perhaps.

She sent me messages later, contrite ones. I spelled out the problem: you're trying to make money, and you have limited time to do so, and people like me are trying to help you (enlightened self-interest, of COURSE--I wouldn't pay her if I wasn't fucking her). Instead of chasing after unicorns, I told her, don't try to manipulate those of us who find your value-proposition attractive. From her tone, I think she got taken down a peg, and if so, GOOD. But she will remain self-centered and flaky, it's her nature.

She's back to Indonesia tomorrow, hopefully with enough $ until she can plan her next trip here, if she does come back to HK or Macau. I've gone on long enough about this, but I thank Petay and everyone else for contributing their stories. We should, as gents, talk to each other when things go wrong in the "floating world" we all enjoy. A good freelancer is a great experience, but with this one, make firm plans. And if she gets wishy-washy, FEEL FREE to say, hey, I'm on the 141 forum and I read that you change schedules and such, I dunno if that's true but that's what other guys say, so if you're not 100% sure you can make this appointment, let me know NOW as my time is valuable and I can't afford to wait on you.

That's my suggestions/observations, and thanks again for listening to my tale. Bottom line: had a great time Friday, didn't have to go to Macau in the cold, saved some $$.      

JtB

[ Last edited by  JackTheBat at 16-12-2017 18:33 ]

Mostly just moved on. I had 3 sessions with her and don't really remember any significant issues and to be honest, the sex was very good. One session, in particular, was the best or definitely top 3, that I've ever had. But I just sensed some of the "dysfunctional high-school girlfriend" and "self-centered" tendencies and decided to move on. Guess I was fortunate to avoid some of the other stuff.

Perfect description. Seems as though she never "graduated" from a certain level of emotional development. She's not vindictive, like another Indonesian WG from years past who also talked constantly (HINT: her name began with a "G"...).

And yes, the sex is fabulous IF she decides she likes you. This may all be academic as she's back in Indonesia and may or may not return to the region. Hey, I hope she finds some rich fool on some Indonesian island and enjoys a life of leisure spending his money.

JtB

What annoyed me just as much as actually cancelling on me..

we started talking again a week ago, she invited me to Macau (of course she did) I told her I was still unhappy after she cancelled last time, she got all apologetic. But she could not even remember WHY she cancelled on me, she told me it was cos of a guy in HK and she needed a rest.. I told her she told me she was in Bali..? Then she just stopped replying... WTF?!

Then later that night she got all apologetic again, I just stopped replying then and finally just deleted her.

My last comment on this whole thing...we're wasting a lot of text on a gal who isn't even around anymore.

But it seems clear to me--she's forgetful. She probably forgot her excuse, then realized it was a different situation.

Her blanket excuse, which maybe worked on her parents when she was younger, is a barrage of apology: "so sorry...never do it again...blah blah." Well, you did it to Petay, then me. So it's not like you'll never do it again as you already did.

Anyway, deletion seems appropriate, she's going to continue this behavior and she's not in town.

JtB

If only I had a $ for every time I heard this from a Chinese WG or Chinese Civvie!

Anyway time for us all to find the next dysfunctional, self-centered and compulsive liar WG - Hang on, that's most of them!

Obe

Exactly.. too many lies to too many guys and she has forgotten what she has said..

You were apparently in Bali when you "Lied to me".. then you tell me you are actually in HK?? stupid woman.

I have seen her a few times and have had a great time with her, but yes you have to put up with the stories of her life and all her customers and boyfriends/husbund.

I take it with a grain of salt and move on as I'm just paying for her time to have sex, and she delivers on that.

This girl is a little scatty and I could not spend a lot of time with her. She is a nice girl and not a bad bone in her body, I think she is chasing a dream of landing a big fish that can provide for her and her family.

From following her we chat she has had problems getting into HK.

From when she was in Bali she hooked upped with one bloke who later flew to HK with her to get her in. I had a booking with her and she told me she wouldn't be there and hooked me up with a friend of hers. ( terrible fuck ) but props for that.

Saw her on my way back through HK and all was good.  She had to go to Macau and could not get back into HK, Last I saw on WeChat she had hooked upped with some Italian dude who she was in love with

Now I see she is back in Bali.

it not ur wife it not ur gf it only pro do what she want who plan of thier words in dont got mad when they wrong.....
contine for next one...