So here I am living in Hong Kong, happily married to a beautiful lady, kids , good health, good job....but I still like to visit WG's which risks all of the above!

Add to that I have just realised I am at the peak of my powers in terms of scoring women here in HK (Non WG). I'm about to turn 30 and have just realised how easy this whole 'dating' game is. When I go out to bars/clubs here in HK there are so many hot young things  plus plenty of MILFS to flirt with. Before I was married in my early 20's I would never have had the confidence to approach, but now I have to restrain myself and even not go out anymore as one day I might be tempted and it's just too dangerous - HK is so small! How do you other bro's restrain yourself and accept the grass you've got??

i heard it somewhere that women's prime target for gold digging are men from upper 20s to mid 30s. These men begin to have a stable job and well into their careers, at the same time still has their youth and their "stamina". So yes , you fit well in this profiling.

I should have got married later I guess!
On the other hand I have some single friends who often have ONS who wish they were married! It's a crazy world!

HK is a dangerous place for freshly-arrived from overseas couples.  

Were you married before you came to HK?  If so, you will need uber-discipline to control yourself, because there are temptations everywhere, bars/clubs, gyms, work, business trips, networking business functions, etc.  

Plus this is the most important thing I will advise you, if your wife is beautiful and still looks good for her age, you will have to worry about her too not just worry about yourself.  

I have seen many couples (dating/married) break-up because the gf/wife wants to leave the relationship, not the guy, and pursue a new relationship with that rich guy who is pursuing her.  Many of these girls really fall hard for that lifestyles of the rich and famous when a rich and powerful guy is pursuing her.  It is so addicting for freshly arrived girls to experience mingling among the elite and be treated as one too by the common folks that they don't mind the guy is much older.  Many of these rich guys don't care that the girl is in a current relationship as they believe anyone can be bought.  

Now you wonder how do some couples survive in HK?  Well, it goes like this, if the couple met in HK, there may have been a good chance the girl had already dated a relatively rich or successful guy in the past and was turned off by the whole experience because the guy was never around to do the normal dating stuff that all girls crave and enjoy or treated her like shit (or like a HG/mistress) because he could with his power and money.   

In conclusion, if you feel the temptations for extracurriculear activities, wait until you are on a biz trip and do it outside of HK.  Don't stay away from HK and the home too often and too long as the wifey may get bored and tempted herself too.  If you have to do it in HK, make sure you make it home everyday for the evening meals so at least you two can mutually check on each other.  

Some good advice doghead - I never need to go away for business and yes I normally make it home for meals and always spend the night at home. we've been in HK for a few years already but am always tempted. SO is hot and originally from China, she dated some rich locals on the mainland in the past and was treated just like you said. In Australia she got a lot of attention, but was too busy with babies! I think if anyone strays it will be me - what am I saying it already is me i've lost count of all the WG's ive had in HK!

I don't see a problem continue having your cake and eating it too.

Yes there are risks, but you have as you say "lost count of all the WG's you've had" all you can do is plan each whoring session carefully, there's lots of information in the forum which will give you tips on how to avoid detection.

If she did find out what do you think would be the repercussions? Are you sure she doesn't already know/suspect your little hobby?

Then you are fortunate lad.  

Like Atomic3d stated, it is easy to plan out a whoring session carefully.  It gets very risky when you are doing civi girls because eventually they want to meet up in places that put you in risk of being seen...unless of course you let them know you are already married and need the utmost discretion which they respect in the beginning until they fall in love with you.  

wrong forum to be asking that question Bro LOL!

Try this link. [CLICK HERE]

Hope it's helpful Bro.

She may indeed accept my hobby or perhaps choose not to see it. A few yrs ago she suggested moving back to her parents place with kids to save money while I worked in HK - in China this is quite normal but of course I didn't agree..but then I look back and imagine if I had said yes - my wife is a clever girl, she knows 100% I couldn't do without sex for 1 week let alone half a year.....

Doghead - I only THINK about doing civi girls, if I actually followed through it would lead to the end of my marriage and I still love my wife and kids after all.

TonyToro - Thanks for the link, interesting reading - perhaps this isn't the best place to ask advice on monogamy! Although i'd be interested to hear from older bro's who have left their SO's after kids and other family constraints are no longer an issue, perhaps to retire in Thailand or the Philippines Is the grass actually greener? (apologies for over using the gardening analogy)

and for what it's worth it's a Saturday night and I'm staying in! Tony - I have been reading about your Hari's bar exploits and am severely tempted to make an appearance - SO  is away and going out to watch the world cup would be the perfect excuse but i'm restraining myself! Think if I met up with other bro's I might go too much and get caught out. Pretty sure some of my friends here in HK are also doing WG but some of us are old school friends and know families quite well - for all I know one of my best mates could be reading this very thread!

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No matter what, stay away from all civi girls. If you persist on seeking out civi girls this will surely be the end of your marriage and you don't want your kids to have a fractured family. There's plenty of good WGs in Hong Kong and the HGs are perfect in your situation as they have a decent room and it only takes an hour and you won't be missed. If you cannot resist going after civi girls, you'll have to wait another 20 years when your kids grow up. then get a divorce and go after as many civi girls as you like. Institution of marriage was meant to last a life time but back then, 500-800 years ago, most people died in their 40's Now, 60 is the new 40 and with the help of viagra and other drugs you'll still be able to have sex all the way to 70. You've a long way to go so for the sake of keeping your family together, stake to HGs or walkups.

Thanks for the sound advice geoduck! I will definitely not risk my marriage on a civi girl - I actually haven't done a HG yet as haven't got myself a second sim card to call agents with. Might be better to go to a Hotel as doing walkups I'm always afraid of meeting someone I know - I know so many people who could be anywhere in Hong Kong at any time! At least being in a hotel I could make a decent excuse rather than when coming out of a dodgy building with a pink light on Shanghai street!
Think when we're a lot older and my wife is no longer interested  she might let me have some fun. My 80 year old great uncle started taking solo trips to phuket a couple of years ago - 'the food is amazing and the sea is so warm' he told my mother...

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My theory is that if you love your wife, that's all that matters. Sex is just sex, so it can be overlooked. Now if you start banging civis', that's a whole different ballgame, as emotions might arise, which is when I draw the line.

Keep your head straight!

It's human nature to consume more, just know when and where to take the risks or else lose it all.

I've always found Chinese women to be a far more pragmatic bunch than women in the west, it could well be she does indeed choose not to see. In this is indeed the situation, then it is even more important that you be discrete, as long as she doesn't loose face in front of family and friends and your extra activities in no way threaten her tranquil position as head of the household, then you are in an enviable position. My congratulations


You may want to reconsider this, not for ease of whoring, but for the health of your kids. HK is situated in one of the heaviest polluted areas on the planet, this has a negative impact on the developing brain/body of children. I read an article not that long ago that the Pearl river delta middle class were sending their children to other areas of China for just this reason.

Do your in-laws live in one of the low pollution areas of China with access to decent schools?

Hey come on man, to bang a twist in the replies so far let me ask you this; Just imagine if your wife is going to bars/clubs, all the rest, and is cheating on you behind your back. How hurt would you be? Can you try to imagine your feeling - this may help to decide what you do next and whether you continue on the path you are.

I'm fully aware that I do not know the state of your relationship, but hey - lifes short, do what makes you happy

You're starting from an incorrect premise, that being that woman and men want the same thing.

Gooners wife has what she wants a  couple of beautiful children, a stable home and a good husband. If she wanted to go to bars and pick up, she would. As long as gooner doesn't threaten these things then why shouldn't he be able to do what makes him happy??

Agreed I guess wouldn't be happy. However like so many others on this board I cant stop looking and thinking about fucking around. In fact the oldr I get the worse I am!

Atomic - my wifes family live in a place which makes the pearl river delta look like Sweden! At least here there is some pressure from the hk media and foreign firms like foxconn who at least pretend to care. Think state run coal mines and lead processing factories, I lived there for a year and can't remember seeing blue sky! Anyway at least people there are getting richer, lots of new empty shopping malls and grandiose govt buildings the govt officials who sold the land to build them having fled to Canada long ago!

Your 29 and with a job, wife, and kids I'm surprised you even have any time left to go out and find civilian girls. If you wanna keep safe then focus your time with your wife and kids, especially since your kids are still young. My friends that are married with kids are lucky to even go out and have a drink once in a while lol.

I don't have time. The only reason I can post on here is because my wife is only away a week - the rest of the year I just browse the reports and go for quick afternoon walkups.