i am addicted to the offroad experienbce of DH hunting. i have been 109, players, in sunday mng/afternoon for DH hunt. but i have found that not all were open to idea of sex when i invited question of going to a hotel. some girls who are so eager for money, will offer before i ask. but last weekend i ended up buying lots of drinks (darn she went for rich shots too!!) only to get back a response that she doesntl sleep with guy easily.

well 2 questions - 1) are these girls in wanchai really some do not want to have sex and purely enjoy dance scene. i might have prejudice but they must expect an element of paid sex being in wanchai bars if not there are lot other healhier options? i was a tad annoyed for spending more than the cost of donation on drinks without getting it. well, that:s part of the DH game they are normal girls so i anticipated, but what are your experiences....

2) with DH should you just pop the question early on to stop out on a bad pick. I:m not there to find a wife/gf, i want mutually beneficial casual encounter. but asking them do u want to go to hotel within first 5min sounds gay too... what is good way to avoid disappointment at the end...

Yes, there are many, many DH gals that head to Wanchai only to dance and party with their friends.

And yes.., it can be frustrating to party with a gal for hours and then get shut-down when you expect to leave for a hotel.  It happens to everyone.  

There is only one sure way to avoid it...  ask her early on. This can backfire too, mind you.  Many of these gals, especially Filipinas, are very religious and want to believe they are "good" girls that would never do something like this.  So if you boldly ask them they have to say "no" ---  even though they would have if it progressed in a more natural way.

It is part of the game, the challenge, the dance.

I remember one older, super-religious Filipina I met in Wanchai.  She was with her possee of gal friends.  She was a MILF, and bloody hot, but super straight.  Had been divorced for some time and had not slept with a man in over 3 years.  I spent the next hour or so telling her that her world-view was wrong, being celibate was a crime against god (hehe) and that I was going to make love to her to teach her a lesson!  haha.  

It worked.  She was the most nervous woman I have ever made love to.  She was shaking in bed when I undressed her.  She was completely willing, mind you, but had never had sex outside of her married life.  It was sooo damn fun getting her off...  I saw her a few more times after that and she thanked me so many times for "opening" her mind and allowing her to enjoy life a little more.

Ahhh, good times.  I miss Wanchai.

As Wonder said, you gotta ask early and often.  I have been to Wanchai many times with different friends that are girls and they just wanted to come along for drinks, dancing and partying.  They had zero intentions of leaving with anyone but me when I was ready to go.

Some are going to be shy, real shy.  Girls that have been DH's for a while and partied plenty of times will tend to be more accepting, but they are Filipina and will be shy no matter what.  LOL!!

I cant comment on Indo DH's, because I have never had any.

If she is dirty dancing on your pole and DFKing its a sure thing she will come back (Indo DH has just left )
This type of girl I have never missed out on. If they are more reserved in the bar its more of a quess and my advise would be to ask earlier rather than later (maybe an hour and minimum a couple of drinks) especially if you have doubts about getting a happy ending.

Ask early. If you spoil a chance with a girl who MIGHT have gone later had you asked different... No big loss. There are dozens more to choose from and SOME of them will go for you right off. Don't waste all your cash and sobriety on girls that you are not sure you'll end up shagging.

Agree 100% with Intenseslacker.

Ask early. As long as you are polite about it, the worst that will usually happen is that you get a no thanks.

Almost all of the girls who are in places like that won't be offended, as long as you are polite about it.

Common sense and respect is all it takes.

Cheers.

thx... another day went by in search for Philippine soul (not into Indo, they are sex machine no challenge no fun not my cup of tea) and failed at last minute.... I will try all your suggestion to ask discreetly... now that's 2 weekends gone without success. Maybe i'm trying to pick up a way too modest type....

So far I have never had a dud at 109, Makati or the old Neptune II. For me it is the eye game and for the last xx years it has worked for me. It is a more raw derivative version of what I used to do at singles bars in the US when trying to find a ONS of GF.

Walking up to cutie just because she is there is one way to do it but you never have any inclination about her sense of attraction to you. I've only had marginal luck doing that so I quit. By looking at a girl in the eye, usually while she is dancing, you can tell by their responding gaze whether you should even bother going further. I also don't always go for the most beautiful. As long as I find them attractive, I go for the look in the eye and the sexual vibe they give off. Some have been wild sexual beasts and others subtle and sexual in reserved but intense way and others simply a nice friendly fuck, but never a failure.

Take your time and sus it out. In my experience. the ones that want to fuck you will let you know, without saying a word, before you buy a single drink. This approach, for me at least, has the advantage of occasionally snagging a cute freebie as well.

Really???

Personally I believe if she's talking to you, she's interested

Yup.  Girls don't mess around, they want your attention.  There isn't a girl alive who doesn't want to be wooed, seduced, and fucked to a jelly ... the key is to notice what it is she's responding to, and avoid doing everything else that triggers her yuck factor.  

Stay close, hold her attention, and do the courtship ritual, and she will escalate.

Yeah... what works for me is simple as hell...   just be fun.  

Some guys may have "game" to play a James Bond type mysterious role...., whatever and good luck to them.  

I just play  "me".  Fun, travelled the world, so ask me anything.., and horny.  

Being blunt works best.  The times I have been lucky are almost always the times I was the  bluntest -- "I want to make love to you".  Hell, even if a gals says no, they usually flattered so it almost never ends badly.

Be bold Bros.  And get laid!

wander has some very good advice. Noting feels as good as being able to be yourself and enjoy. Being around beautiful women can be intimidating. Its good to know that you don't have to be Brad Pitt in order to have a good experience.  

I've chased DH off and on when visiting HK over the past ten years. Love the sport, but one needs a backup plan. Ten years ago I found it much easier to get a decent looking one for free at the laguna. But more recently I have found it impossible to get a decent looking DH for free or small tip. I'm sure if it is because I'm now over 50, or the scene has changed, or both. I think ten years ago the scene wasn't as known as much, and it was easier to snag one. Anyone have similar experiences?

But those memories from ten years back...Total, extreme GFE, horny as hell.

It's not uncommon for DH to ask for 2000 short time - This is usually targetted at guys who are tourists - Some DH think they can charge more than Professional ladies - They live in a different universe.

absolutely not
unless your own perceptions have changed

the surprising truth is that girls care a lot less about age than guys do ... what they DO care about is confidence, and a more sophisticated approach.  They WILL fuck the alpha, and prefer you over young bucks who don't know what they're doing.


It's a market, and a very illiquid one.  You can meet super materialistic DH for sure - after all, they left their home their family and their friends behind for the money not for the job fulfilment.  The smart ones make their visit to HK work for them in every way.  But the vast majority want to relax and feel taken care of, nothing more.  So it's a matter of the buyer beware.  

Know when to hold 'em, and when to fold 'em.