A major reason why so many upgrades are being ordered is because the exisiting iPhones actually are pretty slow to load apps amd change from one function to the other and as a result people like the phone but know it's limitations. People want a better iPhone so they will upgrade and not stand pat.

I'll be using it to record my own Porno movies and taking HD pics to upload to here.
Try to anyways! Heehe should be fun.

It's expected that almost every aspect of the iPhone will be improved.  Battery life, resolution of movies, speed between apps, you name it

i like iPhone4G is just because it thin enough, personally don't like big thing on cloth.

Tried to preorder today heard that they fixed problem. It did not work.  Went to apple site and store.  Pretty bad when an apple does not work.  Kills the image

I am coming to Hong Kong in a few weeks. Can anyone suggest a good place to buy the new Iphone ? specific locations of shops ?

Bro the iPhone 4G has been officially launched in HK yet and the launch date is still not confirmed as of yesterday. Only grey market iPhone 4G US versions will be available at the beginning of July but will come with a premium price.

Man queues for iPhone 4 a week early
A DALLAS man is already camping outside his local Apple Store for the new iPhone 4, even though it is not due to be released until Thursday.
This is the third time that Justin Wagoner was first in line for the release new iPhone, but he said this year was different.
"I’ve actually camped out here for the past two years, but this year it’s more like … it’s just for the fun," Wagoner told myFOXdfw.
"I have actually been here since Wednesday evening, and I am going to be continuing to be here until the phone goes on sale."
Wagoner was prepared for his long wait in line, bringing with him a tent, chair, eight days-worth of food and water supplies, and extra clothing.
He admitted to receiving varied reactions from passers-by, "Some people think I’m crazy or insane for camping out here in 100 degree (38C) heat for seven days, and then there are those who think it is really cool.
"So I have my supporters and I have some people who think I’m insane!"
Link here:
http://www.news.com.au/breaking- ... rfku0-1225881752981

Definitely that goes too far.  Will the price drop in a few weeks or months.  Thatscwhat happened last time.

iOS 4 Has Arrived
Apple has just released the iOS 4 update for iPhone and iPod touch owners. The iPhone 4 might not be in stores until Thursday, but existing owners can take advantage of the new software features coming to the new device starting now.
iOS 4 is a free update and is compatible with iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS models, as well as second- and third-generation iPod touches. Multitasking will only work with the iPhone 3GS and third-generation iPod touch, however.

On the backend, iOS 4 has more than 1,500 changes or additions to the API, which will enable developers to build even better apps on these devices. We’ll be posting a more complete video overview of what is new in iOS 4 later this afternoon, but check out some of the highlights first:
        •        Multitasking — A combination of persistent-state applications and backgrounding functions for certain services. The end result means better battery performance when doing things like listening to Pandora while browsing the web.
        •        Folders — Organizing your iPhone Home Screen is easier now that you can use folders to store groups of apps in one icon. This is a huge time-saver and makes finding and keeping more apps on your device much easier.
        •        iBooks — First appearing on the iPad, iBooks is now available for iPhone users. Just like the Kindle app, your purchases and page marks are synchronized across devices.
        •        Tap to Focus Video — iPhone 3GS owners can now tap to focus their videos just like you can when taking still shots. The new software also includes a 5x digital zoom for the built-in camera.
        •        Bluetooth Keyboard Support – You can now pair your iPhone with a Bluetooth keyboard, which will make typing long documents much easier.
        •        Better Spell Check – The spell check utility now works across Mail, Notes, Safari and other apps.
There are tons of other new features in iOS 4 and we’ll be showing them off over the next few days, as well as highlighting some apps that take advantage of the new features.
Link here:
http://mashable.com/2010/06/21/ios-4-released/

I've downloaded the new OS for my iPhone 3G and my advice is NOT TO DOWNLOAD IT.

This first version is a bit buggy and I think Apple will come out with an update over the next few days.

Problem is, when you make a phone call with a number not in the address book and want to save it or add to an existing contact's database, it won't. All I can say is Apple better come up with an update in the next few days.

Otherwise, the multitasking feature is great.

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Also checked to see whether native contact manager will allow groups for contacts.   this is a major shortcoming for iphone.  still do not see that it allows groups.  if you have mobile me that allows groups but that is a paid service annually.  there are apps that have groups but then you need to go through and load the app--too much hassle.

the new os put all email folders in one view which is similar to blackberry.  must say had gotten usedto separate folders though at first did not like it.

Really...? I don't have that problem but I have the 3GS version.

they say there's an App for just about everything? Do they have an App for 141? ^^ if not its patented by me muhahaha but on a serious note i think the mods of this site should get together and create an app for iphone i think it'll be a real hit

There is a mobile version for the 141 Database but want to suggest to the mods to get a mobile version started for the Forum as well. You can then report right on the spot with pictures of the WG straight out of the shower.

Here's a review of iOS4. The reviewer seems to have come to the same conclusion as you. Wait a few weeks till the bugs have been ironed out.




Is it worth installing iOS4 on iPhone 3G?
June 22, 2010 - 6:35PM
Comments 15

iBooks running on the iPhone.
What does the new iPhone update offer old iPhones?

Apple's iPhone 4 handset is about to hit the shelves to usurp the iPhone 3G S but I'm sure there plenty of people out there, like me, who are still using the two year-old iPhone 3G because they're on a two-year contract that's still got a few months to run. I'll almost certainly buy the new iPhone 4 handset sometime this year, but today Apple released the iOS4 software upgrade for the iPhone 3G and 3G S. iPad owners need to wait until August to get their hands on the update.

The original iPhone 2G never went on sale in Australia, but if you imported one (also like me) you're out of luck with the iOS4 software upgrade. You'll need to stick with iOS3. I think that's reasonable considering Apple has been surprisingly generous with its iOS2 and iOS3 updates for older iPhones (with a few annoying exceptions such as Bluetooth voice dialing). The Lady of the House is currently using my old iPhone 2G and it's still going strong, although the phone will probably be retired later this year in favour of a newer model.

So what about upgrading to iOS4? If you own an iPhone 3G S the upgrade looks very appealing with the addition of new features such as multi-tasking. The temptation is to jump in head first, yet I'd suggest perhaps holding off for at least a week to see if problems emerge requiring another update. The introduction of iOS2 and iOS3 both saw older phones take a performance hit and suffer major stability issues that were only resolved with further updates. It generally takes a while for Apple to even acknowledge there's a problem, so don't rush in. Just as with desktop operating systems, I'd be tempted to wait for the equivalent of iOS4 Service Pack 1 before upgrading.

It's also worth a Google search to ensure all of your mission critical apps play nicely with iOS4. If there's an app that you can't live without, see what people have to say about the iOS4 update in the forums and on the iTunes store.

If you own an older iPhone 3G there's far less reason to upgrade and I'd certainly recommend holding off for a while to ensure all the bugs are worked out of iOS4. I took the plunge this morning and my iPhone 3G is certainly more sluggish running iOS4 - it's noticeable but not unbearable. It's too early to pass judgement on battery life. There are lots of little improvements to the operating system, but I wouldn't say any are so amazingly amazing that you need to rush out and upgrade as soon as possible.

The most noticeable changes for iPhone 3G owners are with the email client, with the addition of a unified inbox and threaded messaging. The unified inbox allows you to see the email from your different accounts in the one inbox. Personally I'm not that interested in the unified inbox option because I prefer to view my work and personal emails separately, but I can see why this would be appealing to some people. Unfortunately it seems to be an all or nothing proposition, you can't pick and choose which email accounts are mixed together.

I don't like the fact that there's no easy way to tell which account an email is from. Even when you read an email it's not clear - you need to tap on your email address to view your Address Book entry - the email address in question will be marked in blue. Thankfully when you reply to an email it uses whichever email account that email was sent to.

The threaded messaging option sounds more promising, although it's perhaps not quite what you expect. Emails which are part of an ongoing conversation will appear in your inbox with a number alongside them. Only the most recent email appears, which helps compress your inbox.

If you tap on a threaded message you'll get a list of all the emails in that conversation, with a preview of the first few lines (depending on how you set your preview preferences). Yet if you tap on any one of those emails you'll only see the content of that email, not all the emails merged together. It's not like Gmail's threaded messaging implementation, which trims away the text from older emails to give you a clearer view of how the email conversation progressed.

With the iOS4 update you can now move or delete multiple messages at once from a list of search results, which is certainly useful for those who rely heavily on mobile email access. You can also delete an entire thread at once, although I'd use this with care in case the phone has accidentally merged multiple conversations with the same subject.

Other OS tweaks available to iPhone 3G users include;

- spell-checker
- option to set Google, Yahoo or Bing as default Safari Mobile search engine
- search the web or Wikipedia from Spotlight interface
- create folders to group desktop icons
- 5x digital zoom on the camera
- option to use password rather than PIN to unlock phone
- option to disable cellular data access
- create and edit iTunes playlists
- install iBooks

The option to use iBooks is obviously interesting. Just as with the iPad iBooks not pre-installed, you need to download it from the iTunes store (assuming your country has introduced iBooks). Once you've installed iBooks, you can use the new Books tab in iTunes to sync books to the phone. iBooks on the iPhone uses the same interface as the iPad version, although it's more sluggish and you don't get the two-page view when you turn the phone to landscape mode. Instead it just rotates a single page. You're also offered the option to sync bookmarks and notes with other devices via the iTunes store.

All up iOS4 is a tidy incremental update for iPhone 3G users although, perhaps apart from iBooks, there are no real show-stoppers. Unless you're an iPhone fanatic who can't sleep knowing they haven't installed the latest update, my advice would be to hold off for a few weeks to avoid the inevitable growing pains of the new operating system.

Link here:
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-li ... /20100622-yv2v.html

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This is a round up of some of the professional reviews for the new iphone so far. Apart from a few small quibbles, such as being tethered to AT&T in the U.S., they would seem to be all giving high marks.

iPhone 4 verdict: Apple does it again
ASHER MOSES
June 23, 2010 - 3:43PM
               
The big US tech reviewers have delivered their verdicts on the iPhone 4 and all offered resounding praise, hailing it as the hottest smartphone around right now.
Apple's new device goes on sale in the US on Thursday, and is expected to arrive in Australia late next month.
Walt Mossberg, of The Wall Street Journal, said the iPhone 4 was enough to keep Apple in the lead in the smartphone wars.
"In both hardware and software, it is a major leap over its already-excellent predecessor, the iPhone 3GS," he wrote.
"While its 3.5-inch screen, once considered huge, is now smaller than those on some other smartphones, the high resolution packs in a lot of material and makes text appear almost like ink on fine paper."
Mossberg was impressed with the iPhone 4's new iOS4 operating system, which adds missing software features such as "limited multitasking (the ability to run apps simultaneously); folders for grouping related apps; and, for email, a unified inbox for multiple accounts and the ability to present messages as threaded conversations".
Existing iPhone owners were this week able to upgrade to iOS4, but many iPhone 3G owners complained the update process was extremely slow and error-prone.
Engadget described the new device as "the best smartphone on the market right now". Notably, its chief rival, Gizmodo, does not appear to have been given a review phone, having most likely fallen out of favour with Apple after buying a "stolen" iPhone 4 weeks before launch and revealing most of its secrets.
"The combination of gorgeous new hardware, that amazing display, upgraded cameras, and major improvements to the operating system make this an extremely formidable package," wrote Engadget.
The New York Times's David Pogue remarked on the iPhone 4's fast processor and thin design, which consists of two glass slabs on the front and back wrapped by a stainless-steel band. Apple claims the new phone is 24 per cent thinner than its predecessor and has the world's highest-resolution smartphone screen at 960x640.
"The result is beautiful, and since there's no more plastic, it feels solid and Lexus-like," Pogue wrote.
Pogue said the iPhone 4, with front and rear cameras, was the first phone to make "good video calls", thanks to Apple's FaceTime software. But you'll need to be in a strong Wi-Fi hotspot and both ends of the call need to be using an iPhone 4.
And he also noted that voice calls have been improved, "thanks in part to a noise-cancelling microphone and an improved audio chamber".
Battery life has benefited from the new design, with Boing Boing's Xeni Jardin getting four days of juice under light use and a full day under heavy use, including video recording and playback, instant messaging, email and data tethering.
Jardin tested the camera, which includes a built-in flash, extensively and described the speed at which you can take shots "nothing short of stunning". She liked the ability to tag photos and videos by location, allowing users to browse their shots plotted on a map.
"The higher definition video [720p] is spectacular, and far better in quality than what was possible with iPhone 3GS (or, as far as I've seen, with any smartphone)," Jardin wrote.
USA Today had only minor issues with the device, such as the lack of Flash support, lack of removable battery and the inability to expand memory.
"Cutting through the hype, Apple has given long-time diehards, and first-time iPhone owners, plenty to cheer about," reviewer Edward Baig wrote.
The only major downside mentioned in many of the reviews was AT&T's slow and congested network, which frequently drops calls. This is only a problem for US users and largely exists because Apple insists on offering the device exclusively through AT&T.
Others were critical of the limited multitasking, which works only with certain apps. Apple says this is done to conserve battery life.
"iOS4 permits multitasking of certain important functions - for example, internet radio can keep playing, and GPS apps can keep updating, while you work in other programs. Other apps go into suspended animation when you switch out of them," wrote Pogue.
Link here:
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-li ... 8x.html?autostart=1

Its too bad though that apple has overmarketed the multitasking feature.  there is not true multitasking as apps will go on hold while running another app, except for a few apps like pandora.  they have the technology to multi task, of course, but the battery life will not support it.  so instead of trying to sell it based on multitasking which is an overrreach they should just say what it is.  people will still like it.  now its not clear whether apple is upfront in their marketing

OMG after work i stopped by to check out the applestore, and there was so many ppl in line for the iphone 4g. i know its a nice phone but jesus christ you couldn't pay me to wait in that line lol. well you probably could, but it would have to be atleast $1,000+

Design flaw in the Iphone 4

When you squeeze, hold, the antenna areas on the outer case of the iPhone 4, the sign becomes weaker.  You have a much worst reception.  There is even a possibility of your calls being drop.

When they designed the Iphone, they used the outer case as the antenna. If the outer case is not blocked, the sign is mush stronger.  I am sure there are other minor problems as with new products.

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