Subject: Different Mongering Styles...
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Those bargirls give some of the best GFE anywhere.

We'll after you rock their world I'm sure some would like to be your permanent GF is they could - especially the sunday girls.

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One question I have for your Bros in the GFE camp.  Do you always pay/tip/compensate your girl?

My mentor (one of them anyway), who showed me the ways of The Monger, taught me to always pay.  Even when they don't ask/want any money any longer, I was trained to always pay.  Now, I've found ways to make it less obvious...whether its sneaking it in their toilet kit, or slipping it into the pocket as "taxi money" last second, or given simply as "I don't have time to take your shopping, please buy yourself something nice"-money.

I have found this method works well for me.

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obe   8-12-2015 18:35  Acceptance  +10   Always
jake.houston   8-12-2015 11:44  Acceptance  +8   Always pay, or you will end up paying in another way. Amount and method can vary, but pay.




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Reply #22 jetsetting2much's post

Yes, typically (but there are exceptions).

I typically use the "go buy yourself something nice" line myself.  Seems softer and sweeter....
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regardless age or race,

everybody has very different mongering style and taste
some people can be sadistic bastards, while some are pussy gentleman
alcohol can affect mongering style too.

and most important of all,
what a person write on this board does not necessary reflect his real life mongering experience.
most online stories are bullshit, written to gain karma or "respect".

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jake.houston   11-12-2015 13:07  Acceptance  +8   Haha, cynic? Or mirror to yourself?
wander   11-12-2015 10:37  Acceptance  +1   This from a mod? Kaka have a bad day?
cass   10-12-2015 21:13  Acceptance  -2   Bullshit.
obe   10-12-2015 20:40  Acceptance  +1   Really?
Thai-delight   10-12-2015 17:37  Acceptance  +1   hmm ok




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Originally posted by kaka at 10-12-2015 14:01
most online stories are bullshit, written to gain karma or "respect"

Most? So we should view your reports with suspicion?  Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but I trust they are real and what people say is the truth unless proven otherwise.  If not, then what's the point of this forum.

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JackTheBat   10-12-2015 22:36  Acceptance  +10   "So we should view your reports with suspicion?" Good question.
cass   10-12-2015 21:11  Acceptance  +8   
obe   10-12-2015 20:39  Acceptance  +10   Surprised a MOD would even suggest this.
roasted   10-12-2015 18:17  Acceptance  +1   
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what a person write on this board does not necessary reflect his real life mongering experience.
most online stories are bullshit, written to gain karma or "respect".

So your suggesting a high percentage of posts on this forum are bullshit?

Also a big statement coming from a long time MOD.

Obe

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by kaka at 10-12-2015 14:01
most online stories are bullshit, written to gain karma or "respect".

Really not sure about this on this forum. Most reports are quite honest, sometimes written with a bit of over-enthusiasm and candeur but nothing unbelievable.

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JackTheBat   10-12-2015 22:36  Acceptance  +10   Mine are. If not, what point would there be?
cass   10-12-2015 21:12  Acceptance  +8   Ditto
obe   10-12-2015 19:43  Acceptance  +10   Exactly
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Reply #24 kaka's post

Maybe what he wanted to say was "most online stories are bullshit", but the ones in this forum are not....
It'd better be!
I do not punt a lot but I promised myself to write a report every time I punt. I spend hours on each report, because I want to capture my exact mood during that punt. That is something very important to me. Now, to have a forum moderator saying that "most online stories are bullshit, written to gain karma or "respect"" is extremely disappointing.

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obe   10-12-2015 20:37  Acceptance  +10   I feel the same bro! Very disappointing.
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Reply #24 kaka's post

I resent that, given the time and care I, and two others I know personally, put into writing accurate, useful (and hopefully entertaining) reports. I'm sure most on this English forum are like us. Should we not bother to report, if this is what a mod thinks?

[ Last edited by  cass at 10-12-2015 21:21 ]

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JackTheBat   10-12-2015 22:37  Acceptance  +10   Ditto.
obe   10-12-2015 21:44  Acceptance  +10   Totally agree Cass!




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Reply #29 cass's post

I spend quite a bit of time writing up my reports as accurately as possible for other bros enjoyment and also for myself. By posting my punts here i have an online database of my conquests which i can look back on anytime on a safe and secure platform.

I cant keep photos of working girls on my laptop as my SO uses it.

I am offended a mod would suggest I / other bros post purely for Ks or worse respect. You must be kidding people come to a forum like this for respect.

To be honest K counts mean fuck all to me, I am here for the interaction with other bros and if they think my post is worth a K or two thats great.

I have met several bros from this forum who have became very good friends to the point they sit at the restaurant table with me and my SO. I would never had met them if it wasn't for this forum.

Not sure what to feel now when a mod says its all bullshit. Should I just stop reporting?

Fucking disgraceful.

Obe

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austin821   11-12-2015 18:52  Acceptance  +2   100% with you Obe.
Jack_Sparrow   11-12-2015 07:58  Acceptance  +2   
cass   11-12-2015 06:19  Acceptance  +10   maybe kaka was drunk
JackTheBat   10-12-2015 22:37  Acceptance  +10   Well put.
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Originally posted by kaka...
alcohol can affect mongering style too.

As you know, kaka, this isn't a factor in my reports.

I write in a stylized fashion but my reports are as accurate as I can write them. I've spent a lot of time crafting them for this board, original content given freely to all the mongers here, and don't appreciate this hint that somehow I'm making it up.

I suggest you do a bit of introspection and see if you figure out why you're so cynical, kaka.

JtB

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Having read people's comments, let me say that everybody's reports, regardless of rank, are definitely appreciated, and I understand the amount of time it takes to write one. It is also fantastic watching members develop on the forum. Members like BoPeep who are slowly climbing through the ranks and providing quality reports.  Check out their reports and give as much encouragement as you can. Unless bros can add something fresh that hasn't already be said, it might be better to get back on topic. It has been interesting reading bros' viewpoints on this:

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Is this difference I perceive in mongering styles due to cultural difference or age difference? ...


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cass   11-12-2015 06:21  Acceptance  +10   A voice of reason. Thank you.
JackTheBat   10-12-2015 23:43  Acceptance  +10   Good points, TD.
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Reply #24 kaka's post

It's interesting to read everyone's comments here.  I can appreciate what you're all saying -- and I agree with everything you're saying -- but I can also understand where Kaka is coming from.  

I was a major participant in a US board called thebigdoggie for about a decade.  Members posted reviews, they gained notoriety and respect... Then  they realized that they could sway other members' purchase decisions.  Then they made it clear to the ladies that they could sway other members' purchase decisions -- and they could get freebies/benefits in return.  So reviews gradually stopped being honest reviews and became pseudo advertisements.  This distortion is a real issue (I think we have had this problem with a few former members here).

And then there is also the problem of someone who distorts reports in order to create a "larger-than-life" online persona.  I'm sure this happens, but it's really hard for me to understand this motivation.  Do any of us really care what other guys' online personas are?

Have fun, CGP

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so ... as a mod, I am not entitled to voicing out my opinions?

by the way I am talking abt mongering style..
not abt the validity of the reports.

most reports are valid and really happened.
just that I dun believe that some of the reports are entirely accurate.
"my Dick is too big for her pussy"
"she is so ducking wet"
"all DH loves me"
"I can fuck 10 times a day"
How many times have u read this?

And yes I still think many people are karma whore.
If you are not, then u do not have to worry.

As for the validity of my reports, u can judge for yourself.
If u think it's not real, just neg me. Simple./




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QUOTE:
Originally posted by Caligynephiliac at 11-12-2015 00:55

And then there is also the problem of someone who distorts reports in order to create a "larger-than-life" online persona.  I'm sure this happens, but it's really hard for me to understand this motivation.  Do any of us really care what other guys' online personas are?

Yes this is exactly what I want to say..
Sorry for my bad English.

I just summarize your sentence as [bullshit] and post it.
But I guess nowadays people tend to be over sensitive.

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wander   11-12-2015 10:52  Acceptance  +1   Ya call everyone here liars and yeah... people get sensitive. Go figure.




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QUOTE:
Originally posted by obe at 10-12-2015 21:59
You must be kidding people come to a forum like this for respect.

u must be kidding

not everyone, but such people exists

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QUOTE:
so ... as a mod, I am not entitled to voicing out my opinions?

You are entitled to your opinions just like us mere peasants on this forum.
It is very odd though that you suggest the below

"what a person write on this board does not necessary reflect his real life mongering experience.
most online stories are bullshit, written to gain karma or "respect"

Is it not your job as a MOD to weed those reports out?
I think senior Bros here would agree with me that spotting a fake report is very easy.

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u must be kidding, not everyone, but such people exists Goose

You honestly believe people come here to gain respect from people they have never met?
Either Bro Goose had an incredibly small penis or ego to come here for respect... perhaps both.

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And yes I still think many people are karma whore.

Because they like to contribute to the forum more than other bros?
Let me remind you a MOD has nothing to do without us peasants being here.

QUOTE:
But I guess nowadays people tend to be over sensitive.

Bro Wander summarized this perfectly with "Ya call everyone here liars and yeah... people get sensitive. Go figure."

I appreciate you have been a MOD here for many years and I am grateful for that but with the comments you have made perhaps you are past your expired date?

And yes I agree with TD we should get back on the topic of

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Is this difference I perceive in mongering styles due to cultural difference or age difference? ...

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by kaka at 10-12-2015 14:01
regardless age or race,

everybody has very different mongering style and taste
some people can be sadistic bastards, while some are pussy gentleman
alcohol can affect mongering style too.

and most i ...

Okay, this may be unpopular, oh well.

First, he who seeks offense always finds it.

I read what Kaka said and my first thought is, yep, that happens. His statement that it applies to "most" reports is an overstatement, but it is an overstatement in reference to overstatements, that's ironic.

In reading forum history, there was at one point a massive subversion of the rating system to gain Ks if my reading comprehension is correct. I've seen zero evidence of it recently, but it did occur.

As far as validity of reports, if you've read any P4P forums at all you can easily have a discerning eye for bullshit reports and posters. We have had some here and they were all tagged rather quickly as farce.

My gold standard for report authenticity is very easy. Can I replicate the experience of the reporting punter myself? An excellent example of this is the many reports written by TD, Wander, TonyToro, and others about bar and club punting in HK and Wan Chai specifically. I, even as a rank noob in Wan Chai went out on my first opportunity and bedded what to this day is still one of the three hottest, sexiest, most passionate women I've ever been with in my punt filled life. That my friend is empirical quantitative data validation. No need to retest the theorem or contact the initial source for further clarification. What they said, worked, I followed their handbook and I got laid like an old carpet. Perfect.

So,Kaka, I'm not offended. I also utilize my own variable sized bullshit filter in the punting forum multi-verse. I am confident in my personal reporting, I enjoy writing. In most cases, I more often than not truncate my reports to just highlights.

J

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To get back to the original question, I've found my own style has changed a little with age. Now I like even more to be able to chat, or even better, have a laugh with the woman (one reason I love the Thais who come here: quite good English and often wicked senses of humour, TR Emmanuel in particular). No rushing is brilliant.
The women themselves tell me there are large cultural differences in terms of what guys expect/demand, and what they give in return.
Then there are universal issues, like kindness, thoughtfulness and little gifts being highly appreciated.

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vinny5443   13-12-2015 00:31  Acceptance  +5   do you mind elaborating on the cultural differences you're referring?
JackTheBat   12-12-2015 16:40  Acceptance  +10   Think the proof is in the picture there, cass.
austin821   11-12-2015 19:03  Acceptance  +2   Agree
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Jack_Sparrow   11-12-2015 14:20  Acceptance  +2   totally agree - and i'm not even old ;)
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If I had to stop being stupid, and have fun voicing my sometimes poorly formed opinions and one liners on the board just because I'm mod, I'd give up.  Sure, I'm happy to help out deleting spam and drafting sticky threads, but the real fun is participating on the board.  And If I say something stupid, people can argue with me.  

Actually copied reports bother me more than fake ones.  At least the bullshit artist has crafted the damn thing himself.  As has been said, most of us can spot bs and call people on it pretty fast.   But it is harder to spot copies - that needs lots of eyes from people who participate on multiple boards around the world.  You don't have to be a janitor to help pick up litter.

Mongering style - I'm not sure I've changed much.  I still pick the hottie from the lineup when I should be concentrating on the one with the beaming smile.  But how else do you find the girls with both?  I guess where I've changed is in length of session, very rarely doing the 1 hour sessions now.  There's no time for spooning, or midnight tickle fights in a short session.

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