Not that I'm about to give up my day job but I was tossing around in my mind the question of how much money an average agent in Hong Kong pulls in.

As a conversation starting point, I came up with the following range:

Customers per girl per day	Session Charge	Agent Cut	Total HK$ per girl per day	# Girls	Total HK$/Day	Total HK$/Mth (26 days)
12	$800	$500	$6,000	8	$48,000	$1,248,000
10	$800	$500	$5,000	8	$40,000	$1,040,000
8	$800	$500	$4,000	8	$32,000	$832,000
6	$800	$500	$3,000	8	$24,000	$624,000

1st column is the number of customers a HG serves in a typical day
2nd column is a typical HG charge in HK$
3rd column is an estimate on the agent's cut. I suppose this could easily be +/- $100 either way
4th column lists the total HK$ pulled in per girl per day
5th column assumes the agent has 8 girls working for him. Could be more, could be less
6th column shows the total HK$ pulled in by the agent per day for those 8 girls
7th column shows the total HK$ pulled in by the agent per month for those 8 girls(assuming 26 days work). I was going to use 30 days but I figure the girls do take the occasional day off

I'm guessing the major monthly expense for the agent would be hotel fees. I'm not sure what the going rate for the hotels in TST that are used but let's assume it's around HK$800 per room per day

Assuming the agent books 5 hotel rooms(shared amongst the 8 girls) that would equal HK$4,000 per day or HK$120,000 per month

Taking any of the above figures would seem to indicate that the agents are pulling in obscene amounts of money from this business. Of course there are other monthly expenses like housing for the agent, mobile phone bills, food for himself and the girls, visas, transportation etc. I'm not sure how much all of that would add up to but it still seems that this in an incredibly lucrative business. Would be interested to hear others take on the above or if you think any of the figures are way out of the ballpark. Taking even a middle range figure of 8 customers per day, an agent would be knocking on the door of $1mil US per year. Could that be correct?

Maybe I SHOULD give up my day job!

u know, i always wondered about how much they make,these calculations make some sense.  I assume that they would also pay a listing fee on 141 and a protection fee to the local triads?  I imagine the protection fee is pretty high in itself.

That's right. I had forgotten about those two additional expenses that you listed. I think oftentimes I forget about the existence of triads here in Hong Kong since generally speaking it is an incredibly safe city and you almost never come across any incidents of violent crime. Protection fee if required to be paid could indeed be a substantial amount. I wonder if any one here can ballpark what something like that might even run??

where do i sign up?

if you need some startup funds i will provide for a cut

the local triads you state, are actually the local police   they will turn a blind eye..

think about how much tips us punters pay. I think the WG/HG takes it all...

expenses would be buying KY and condoms LOL   

[ Last edited by  kevlar at 18-12-2010 01:12 ]

The girls certainly deserve all the tips they can get considering what a disproportinate share of the session fee they get for actually doing all the physical work and taking on all the risk

Ugh, I for one would be happy to never see another tube of KY in my lifetime. I've never had a session with KY that wouldn't have been 10 times better without it

Of course, pimping pays well, if not why do organised crimes worldwide keep up with prostitution business.

Yes, you're right of course. When I chose the subject heading it was more of a rhetorical question than anything.

Clearly it does pay to be in this business but my curiosity extended to how much does it really pay hence the bandying about of some arbitrary figures to try and put my finger on it. Is it realistic for the more well developed agents to really pull in seven figure salaries(in US$) per year?

Does the pimp really make more than 50%!?  That sounds absurd to me.  Holy crap.....and if so, I should start my own business.  Give the girls a higher cut which would eventually give me the best girls in town cuz they'd all work for me.  My stock would be so damn good that all the politicians and famous people would use my services so I'd have to raise prices and basically double or even triple my profits.  This is the perfect retirement fund!

Yes, apparently the agents do make more than 50% on every transaction. This was discussed a bit in another thread here:

http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/viewthread.php?tid=25547&highlight=%2Bblazza

I'm quoting Supersheva here where he talks about how much cut the girls actually get:
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Charge - 600
Cut - 250 (+/-50)

Charge - 700
Cut - 300 (+/-50)

Charge - 800
Cut - 300-350 (+/-50)

Usually the +/- is a -, unless the gal knows the ropes and is able to negotiate

So for 400, 100 to 150 sounds about right. Co Co / Special News received around $150 per gig at 8MK from memory
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As customers, we tend not to think about the big picture numbers much as we usually just think punt to punt. But when you really start adding them up, it starts to come to a really obscene amount of money!

in essence the payout looks good, but the risks associated with pimping is quantified by this.

like most jobs, high risk = high payout. the money earned may just end up being the same if one can calculate working at a job and saving effectively.

There might not be a retirement fund program for being a pimp but any chance they get to sample the merchandise?  They get a decent discount at least.  Think about that!

Are you sure about this? In the US, many "agents" are phone operators/bookers only, and make about $10-12 per appointment set. They handle as many as five houses at once.

Conversely, there are owners who will protesteth (doth too much, of course ) that they are "just the middleman". You can guess why they prefer not to be known as the big cheese.

I forget where I read it, but I remember somebody once saying that there are also recruiting agents in China and various other behind-the-scenes people, all taking their cut.  Another expense is advertising, although this is minor.

Some agents from what I understand also charge a "make-up fee" on the gals, and the amount is around 100 per day.

Don't forget the gals also have to pay their agents in China...

Sometimes I feel sorry for the gals as the slice they get diminish....therefore tips are a good thing for them, as no-one really knows about the amount.

Just a reminder ... instead of only posting pros of being a pimp maybe we should also look at the other side ...
how many are in trouble with the LE or actually in jail ?

Or how they can easily be "muscled" by others if their business gets to be "too good"

Or how much they have to pay their own "big brothers"

Or  what kind of monies they need to spend to make sure their own gals don't get hassled by various leeches

Or....

One has to remember that like all organizations - there ARE "hierarchies" with each step/guy taking their cut. And whilst the whole "organization" does make a larger cut than the gal who does all the heavy liftin', there will not be one particular guy who makes all the $$ from the enterprise.  It's all absorbed within the hierarchy.

SEAJ

im gonna have to quote Ice-T on this one - " Pimpin ain't eazy, but somebody gots to do it. "

tats revenue..... then there is hotel cost, phone cost, advertising, supplies (lube and dom), protection
and the inherent high risk premium of jail time....


and then probably most of the profit get moved up the hierarchy of the criminal organization
if you read freakonomics you will now the low level guys aren't too well off, especially with the risks involved, since they are probably most exposed

Not a pleasant thing to do but I guess you can always start on a small scale by selling this concept to a few lady friends who are in need of cash. Just tell them it's quick and easy money and it's only a temporary solution to help them get by. You would have to of course solicit some clients which would not be too difficult if you promise your punting friends,  fresh, young and cute amateur girls.