First time post so still getting used to all of the acronyms.

First of all I just wanted to say Holy B**p, what an addictive site and now that I have found this while searching for porn I simply cant stay away. I have even got mywi on my phone so I can browse at work.........

Right, to my position and I want to ask the seasoned Bro's their opinion.

I have been in HK a few years now and  before I came I never thought I would ever pay for sex but one night a year ago, I was hammered Drunk and I think I was in wan chai ad I met this beautiful black HG and took her home. I dont remember much about the rest of the night except that I had always wanted to f&*k a black girl and now I had.

1) Come the next day and when the hangover had set in the guilt set on, my first question is how do you deal with this?

It has now been a year since then and I recently got married and now I just found out (on this site) that there is a couple of walk up's 5 mins walk from me and I know my wife will be away this Friday. I have since become obsessed with trying the HG scene again.

2) Is there something wrong with me that I just want to try every HG out there?
Sh1t, I have just got married and I already want to try something else!!! I love my wife and she is absolutely beautiful (out of my league) but my mid does wander.

3) How do you control your urges?

4) when you do to meet an HG, do you go far away from where you live?

cheers all and any advice is truly appreciated. Maybe soon I shall be writing my own report.

Maybe I should try a massage and HJ first, or if I have gone that far I might as well just full service!

I have to go back quite a few years to be where you are today.

Yep, it starts with that first time.  And it was good, wasn't it?  But that guilt sticks around, and fear too.   After a little while you realize nothing has changed between you are your wife - she doesnt know, doesnt suspect - is as happy and content with you as ever.  Hmmm.  No harm done the devil on your shoulder tells you.

And then a second opportunity presents itself - and this time it is a little easier for you engage your dark side and go along for the ride.  But ultra-cautious you remain.  Fearful and careful.

Over time you learn little rationalizations about why you actually "deserve" this little extra on the side:  you work hard, earn lots of cash, provide for her every need, treat her well.  But maybe you are not totally fullfilled sexually..., why should you waste this great gift of sex?  You DESERVE it right?  You've EARNED IT after the years of being such a good spouse/father/provider!!  And damn it just feels soooo good!!

The guilt, Bro, is something you must live with - ALONE.  Do NOT, under any circumstances, come clean with your wife.  You will do it only as an attempt to purge your guilt (it wont work) and it will blast your relationship to smithereens.  Many, if not MOST women can live with suspicion.  If you are a good spouse in all other ways they learn to "look the other way" or ignore some obvious clues - but ONLY if you maintain the plausibility of deniability.  There is a HUGE differnace between her "wondering: if you've cheated, and her "knowing" you did.  Deny, Deny, Deny!  If you confess she can no longer pretend, can no longer accept the good you bring and forget the possibilty that you might have strayed.  Her trust in you vanishes and with it the downward spiral of almost every relationship.  She might forgive you and you go on for a few more years (maybe for the kid's sake), but whatever you "had" together before this knowledge was learned will never return.  Yes, we have all heard of some couples who get past it and live in a truly healthy and happy relationship again - but these are the exceptions.

So.  yes, you will feel guilty, and this is YOUR burden to bear, and YOURS alone.

[ Last edited by  wander at 25-1-2011 11:14 ]

Thank Wander,

My key question is do you travel out of you home zone to play?

Also any other advice for a newbie, start with a massage and HJ/BJ or just dive straight in?

Also got any recommendations for HK island?

[ Last edited by  gb1421 at 25-1-2011 12:06 ]

Hey GB,

Earlier on I only fooled around when I was gone on a business trip - as distant from my "real life" as possible.  I certainly recomend this as it is the safest way...

But then I moved to HK - a monger's paradise, and the fun and temptations of Wan Chai pulled me in.  I was as careful as I could be at first:  enter a bar, very quickly chat up the cutest chick I could find, make a deal for her to meet me 5 mintes later at some hotel and leave alone.  I would sms her the room number after I left and she would follow.  It felt the safest way to do the Bar scene.  (PS:  not once did the girl fail to show up, and always a good time aswell!!).

But I like to "party" too:  you know, drinking, dancing, and being stupid with sexy hot girls.  And Wan Chai is the devil's den for this sort of thing, so slowly I started to linger in the bars, chat up a bunch of chicks, and party and dance for hours with them before finally making a selection and then heading off to the hotel.  Sometimes rather drunk with a chick surgically attached to me.

So, you see..., in my case I entered more dangerous waters as time went on.  My "fun" level went up and up and up..., but so have the risks.  It is not for everyone.

To answer your question about places in HK:  Umm, for what exactly?  A good start for you might be a Sauna or a Walk-Up.  Someone might see you go in (or out) but that is the only real risk. Just go the 141 Directory on here to get exact details/addresses and girls pics to know where to go.  I've tried them, had my fun, but still prefer the "more natural" bar-WG-scene - you can sorta audition the girl for chemistry and fun-quotient - and she auditions you to in a way, so it feels more natural to me and this leads to much more intimate experience.

Hope this helps...

Hey Wander,

I will actually be staying at a hotel in Wan Chai. So I read a lot about the bars in the area but was wondering about the dress codes for those bars? I am about to start packing for my trip soon and was wondering if I needed to bring anything to "fit in" in those places. A collared shirt? dress pants? like regular club clothes or something? I was only intending to pack sneakers and jeans, and comfy t-shirts for my trip to HK but if I need to dress better for these Wanchai places, I should probably pack additional clothes.

Hey Bro, welcome to a good time ahead!!

Ya know, you can pretty much wear anything in Wan Chai bars, but if you dress "club nice" you'll have a better  chance pulling the "9's", or at least enjoying a LOT of women on the dance floor before you choose to pull one back with you to the hotel.  

I've gone in shorts (in the summer), and I've gone in my clubbing-best.  When dressed well the "9's" come to me.  When wearing shorts I have to go to them...  I like them coming to me!

So, a nice shirt and some decent "club-worthy" jeans will work just fine.

Shite!

I am still trying to find out how to control my urges lol

Heh, I control my urges by being a cheapass. I know I'm going too often when I need to hit the ATM again just to buy lunch!

Thanks for the tips Wander. I think I'll pack some appropiate clothes then. However I might not be able to pull the 9's as you say. Once I get on that dancefloor, I think all the ladies will stay away from me lol. Yes its THAT bad. Some of us were genetically born with a complete lack of dancing skills. Hopefully I can just get away with dressing nice and being gregarious, buying people drinks and talking with everyone.

You'll do just fine - the Wan Chai bargirls make it easy.  Have a smile on your face, make eye contact with some beauties, and they'll come to you.  Then just enjoy their company, buy 'em a few drinks and go with the flow.  Directly ask them out if you're ready to go - and don't worry about mistaking a civie for a pro - if they came to your table they are almost certainly a pro and are waiting and hoping you will ask to take them out.

I am going to copy a Report I made elsewhere on te Forum about a nite of fun I had a little while ago in WanChai - it lists the bars I went to and the approximate timeframe I was at each one.

TO THE MOD's, I hope it is okay that I do this (??)  I don't know how to link a different post yet.  (I'll figure it out).  So apologizes if I am breaking any kind of rule here.

Here is my report on a weekend in Wan Chai.  I think it will help you out:

In town for a weekend of debauchery? Here is one of my nites.


Hong Kong has got to be one of the best party towns on the planet.  And it is all the WGs who help make it so special!

A mate and I were free for an entire weekend.  We started at 5pm Saturday and finally staggered back home Sunday nite at 8pm.  Non-stop partying with chicks the whole time.  Here is the itinerary for those looking for a good time.

5pm.  An easy start in LKF for a couple drinks.  Grabbed some food.  It was relatively quiet, as LKF usually is at that time.  But note, most people on here assume LKF is the "proper" party section in HK, with no WGs.  This is changing.  Last time I was there late at nite (a few weeks ago) we noticed quite a few obvious working girls there.  Many girls have complained to me that there are "too many girls" and I must agree there are a lot.  I have found ratios of 5 to 1 or better in Wan Chai lately, so no surprise some are spreading out to other locales.

7 or 8pm:  Head to Wan Chai.  Head to Joe Bananas for a casual kick off.  Bounce between Joes and Amazonia (around the corner) as the band starts there.  Enjoying the music, girls start coming in and soon we were enjoying the company of two fil beauties.  A couple rounds go down and I didnt even realize that "my girl" had already found her way to my lap.  We're bouncing to the music on my chair and her ass is already nicely grinding on my dick.  Ahh... fun.  I tell her I am just "dancing and drinking tonite" so as not to set her expectations too high.  No worries.. she stayed with me and I truly enjoyed her company.  Sweet, sexy, eager to please.  

10pm or so:  we head to Escape.  Mmmm.  The (very high-grade) talent is already coming in, but not so packed yet that we can't get a good seat near the dance floor.  Some absolutely stunning Thai girls join us and I head to the dance floor with one as the booze has finally flicked my dance-mode switch.  She can move!  and sexy as hell.  We have some more drinks.. I tell her also that my mate and I are just out to party tonite - so no taking her out.  Again, I lucked out and she chose to stay and party with us.  My mate had wondered off and was chatting with some other hotty:  a Russian girl really got his eye and was driving him crazy by being somewhat "cold".  My mate saw it as a challenge and therefore became strangely transfixed on this one.  He was having little luck breaking the ice with her, and eventually we say our goodbyes and head off...

1 or 2am (or so, the time gets a little fuzzy from here on out).  We're hungry, but still want to stay in the Bargirl world.  So we head to Old China Hand (OCH) just a 2 miniute walk away.  This is a small, kinda-grimy pub, but I always like it.  Plenty of the girls also use this spot as a little "breather" place.  The music is quieter, can order some food.  I sit beside a filipino girl who just ordered some chicken wings.  I ask her if I can share her wings and promised I will be ordering more to replace them (which I did).  We chatted, ate some wings, got snuggly and kissing within about 30 minutes.  A couple of her freinds joined.  Soon we are ready to party again having filled our bellies with some food.  I paid for the girls food - which instantly made us their boyfreinds and "best guys ever"!.  We invite the girls to join us as we leave and they jump out of their seats to follow:

3 or 4am:  We head accross the street to Bar 109 (also called The Smoking Room - and indeed it does have a big smoking room).  It's full of chicks and dicks and everyone is dancing, smoking, and being altogether bad.  (no, the dicks were luckily not attached to the chicks - this is not Thailand!).  Our girls are having a good time.  So were we. At around 6am my mate gets into some kinda squabble with the girls - he rarely ever loses his temper but something was said that really pissed him off (turns out he thought one of the girls ripped him off after he passed her some cash to buy drinks).  Its possible he was just drunk and messed up.  Anyway, we say our goodbyes to the girls and head next door - to the infamous Bridge.

6am  The Bridge.  Man, this place can get downright rude!  Everyone, by now, is completely plastered, horny, and out-of-their-minds!  A girl I've been dancing with has her hand down my pants stroking my dick as we dance.  At one point she actually undid my zipper and was going to pull it out before I stopped her.  Christ!  Not terribly discrete, but man I am enjoying it.  My hands are all over her tits and ass and we're kissing like lovers.  Clearly we should have got a hotel - but my promise to my mate that we would NOT take a girl that nite kept me strong.  (so far).  Later on, near the bathroom a different drunk girl grabs me, and within minutes we're kissing and fondling.  I notice she's wearing no panties and I'm feeling her pussy as she gropes my dick.  I have never done it myself, but I know guys have got blowjobs in the bathroom there for free or just a few hundred.  I think everything has happened in the Bridge at some point or another.  I have switched to Red Bull and Vodka to keep me alive and awake by now.

11am or so:  The Bridge is shutting down it's nitetime games and reverting back into a daytime restaurant/bar.  We head back to Old China Hand to rest up a bit and regain our strenght.  I can't quite remember, but a few girls we met earlier are there and we join them and buy them breakfast.   A few other punters are also feeling keen to keep the party going.  We went somewhere next for a while, but I can't recall now.  Damn.

3pm (Sunday).  We head to Makati.  The party has already started and with about six Vodka Red Bulls in me I am energized and ready to dance.  I bounce from girl to girl for hours being somewhat less decent than normal - groping and fondly primarily, but for the most part my attentions are being appreciated and returned.  I finally meet one filipino who is just stunning, drunk, sexy as hell and horny as hell.  We sit down, her on my lap, and she's driving me crazy.  We're making out, I am fondling every inch of her body and she's doing the same.  I can't take any more:  I tell my mate I need to take this girl - so wait for me.  We leave and head to Beverley.  Frickn awesome sex.  This girls body was spectacular and she indeed was one of the horniest girls I've met.  Wow.., I picked an all-star!  (and yes, I took her number and have seen her several times since).  I finish, clean up and she never asked for cash, too drunk I think.  I ask her if she needs "any help with cash"?  (I can't help being a decent bloke to these girls, so I give her some and she's ecstatic!).  I get back to Makati - my mate's having fun with that same Russian girl from early on - she's freindly now, primarily because she is as smashed as we are.  I am back on the dance floor - though I am getting weary....

Somewhere around 7pm Sunday nite we decide that we are done.  

Since Saturday evening I have danced and grinded with perhaps 20 different chicks all nite.  F*cked one of them in a mutual frenzy of drunken lust, drank a dangersously large quantity of booze, picked up about 5 or 6 phone numbers I'll use for future hook-ups, and now feel the effects of the "RedBull crash" coming on.  A good outing!  We agree to cap the nite.

8pm.  Made it home alive.  Crashed on the couch for the next 12 hours.  Wake up feeling like a truck hit me.  Called in sick at work.  Met my mate for lunch to try to piece-together the events of the previous nite.  It took both of us to recall the basic timeline.  Some parts remain a mystery.

That's Hong Kong.  Frickn' Paradise.

Hi Wanderer,

Thanks for the story and I am impressed you managed to sustain you night even after fun with your girl. As to your question on the other post,I am about 30ish.....

Ha.  The Redbulls helped!  

And so did that Fil chick.  Wow, she has among the nicest big (real) tits I've played with almost forever, and packaged with a small-tite-body and ass!  Mmmm.  And so incredibly horny too...   as the Rolling Stones would say:  "she'd make a dead man cum..."  I had no problems "performing" with her even after all the booze I guzzled.

She is a DH here and to my delight is able to take time off during the afternoons (with a few days notice), so she's become a regular of mine.  The next time I saw her I realized that my "beer goggles" from the nite we met made me elevate her facial beauty.  She's a solid 7 for the face (a 10+ Playmate-of-the-year for the body, mind you), but that nite I ranked her a 9 on the face as well.  Shows you what a few too many will do.    Still, I was not disaapppointed when we met again.  A sweet girl, got to know her more, and yep....  even sober she is one-unbelievably-horny girl!  I thought I was a bit of a maniac - this girl almost scares me in bed she is so active and energetic.  Wow!

PS:  She never asks me for cash when we meet.  I am now convinced she was just damn horny that first nite and I "pushed all the right buttons" with her.  She wasnt expecting a payment.  Hmmm.  The maids-of-makati on a Sunday afternoon!!  I have seen her about 5 or 6 times now, and have given her cash a few times after asking if she is "okay with cash at the moment?".  A few times she said she "just got paid so was doing good, thanks anyway".  Cool.

Just likes to f*ck I guess!

Sounds like a good bender!

I have not been to LKF for quite some time now but my friend mentioned there was some looking WG's getting themselves along there now. He also mentioned there was a few ladyboys there too....

I went to escape for the 1st time with some friends in November and I remeber the girls being really really great! Better than anywhere else in HK! They even had some Western working girls there too!

Yep.  Our beloved WGs are indeed starting to wander around LKF.  When it was busy enough that the streets outside the bars filled up with partiers I saw at least a dozen or so WGs that gave me that smile and/or wink that instantly made me certain.  Insomnia is becoming a sure-bet to stumble accross some.

Regarding Escape:  Yeah, I agree.  Everytime I have gone in I have seen out-standing talent.  I am not sure about western girls (unless you mean Russian?)  I have seen gwielos chicks in there, of course, but I never approach them to see if they are WGs.  Frankly, I am not interested in punting with them.  Been there, done that!

Yea I know 1 was Russian!

Just as I was debating my move (Western WG probably very expensive) Some guy bought her a drink. I was quite glad lol her tits were awesome in her outfit! One of them tops with a circle cut out of the middle! Not sure where her friend was from!

I dont mind punting the odd western chick! Just seem a lot more expensive out here. I did a couple of times when I was back in the UK for xmas.

That is a superb tale!  Good effort.  Not surprised to hear the Russian is being cold - that seems to be their thing.

The Pub next to Stormies in LKF seems to have a few WG's there from time to time - usually of pretty high quality too!

Thanks Mr. Jones.  Hmm, I can't think of the pub you are referring to in LKF.  Is that the Bit Point?