Who is better-off? The punter or the WG?
So, let us take into account before, during and after the session with a WG. From "our" perspective, this would include the economic and financial costs of searching for your desired WG (on the 141 database, newspapers etc.). For the WG, this could usually involve the cost of getting to the working place, be it in another country or just a taxi-ride away. Then, during the session, the WG has to tolerate any man and let him fuck her! This man could be unattractive, smelly, rude etc. How does she get the urge to spread her legs? For most punters, they get to fuck a girl they could never score, or atleast get a fuck when they want. Now comes after the session, the punter subtracts roughly 1-day's full-time work (maybe even more if you go by average wages of popular punting countries), and leaves with virtually nothing. So, there you have it - the WG has made money at a rate higher than most professions give, and she keeps it to do anything she wants. Whilst the punter, leaves with nothing. Do you get the point I am making? The feeling of europhia before climax is so temporary that you can barely recall or resimulate the feeling afterwards. However, the net effect is that the WG physically still physically has the money for however long she pleases with the choice of what to do with it. So, was it all worth it? With so many men from all nations falling prey to chinese girls, is it all worth it? Just for those few seconds, the chinese are making billions out of the world from there women alone! Now let me get this right, these women are prostitutes! But, they are not your typical prostitutes. We are talking about asian prostitutes, which do not fit the typical stereo-types of crack-addicted prostitutes. We are talking about prostitutes with education, coming from middle-class families, girls who chooooose to prostitute themselves, saving their money and investing in real estate and business all over this world. The effect of this is, yet more chinese domination. I may be going a bit off-topic. But considering these things, who do you think is better off? The WG or the punter?

Is this some sort of freakonomic measurement of wealth and the intangible costs of punting, mongering and risks involved?

It's a voluntary act, isn't it? Or more precisely, a carnal urge from within.

This is not a contest and we never thought any deal is meant to have one winner and one loser. If any, it's a win win situation. We give them money, we get pleasure.

I think I get what you are trying to say here..., but it isn't an "us or them" kinda thing, is it?

They are offering a product, a "service", that we want and are willing to pay a certain amount for.  If they provide excellent service and we walk away with a smile on our face and a happy memory - well, it is a pure win-win transaction.  As it should be.

If they provide less than we hoped (no GFE, no interest, whatever) than we leave unsatisfied and won't return to her or recommend her.  You can't really call that a "win" for her, though it is indeed a "loss" to us.  This is just like a million other purchases we make each year - some deals are great and others not.

In seems as though very few girls do overly well in HK - at least the bargirls anyway.  Very few are local, so they have topay the costs to fly in, rent accomodations while they are here, sometimes pay a "manager" (seems the newbies do this only to realize they barely have anything left by the time they fly out) and have to compete with a lot of other girls each nite.  A lot say they don't get a punter each nite.  The walkups are VERY competitive with prices very low compared to other parts of the world.  I could be wrong, but it doesnt seem to me that they are raking in giant sums of cash - yes, they earn much more than they would working at Chinese, Indonesian, or Philippinnes Starbucks or a factory, but still a pittance compared to a "western" salary-scale and standard-of-living.

So, do they "win" over us?  I dont think so....  If anything we are "winning" by getting a much better-than-avergae WG experience (ie:  great GFE) for a fraction of what this would cost elsewhere in the world.

[ Last edited by  wander at 7-2-2011 10:48 ]

when anyone pays for a ticket to see a sporting event, a movie, a play ... just about anything ...
they pay with their hard earned money and they leave with as you say 'nothing' !

you're sounding like a troll we banished ... I hope not

Sorry I didnt want to cause any shit. I just wanted to construct in my mind whether the girl or the boy wins this situation.
I do not know if anybody else understands my point of view?
Come on sometimes when you visit a WG, can you not tell they think "oh god what a loser"?. If not then it is obvious that you cannot read the fact behind their smiling faces they are saying "dont pick me"? I have even heard stories about how WGs gossip and make fun about their customers. When they have no customers, thats what they talk about. They make such fun of "us". If you try to think about it from the girls point of view, then things may perhaps become clearer... think about the ego-boost that the girl must get, that a man is willing to pay her just to fuck her.

How about this ... Instead of preaching us your values how about you posting  a report or reports on you experiences with WGs ... You do have some experiences don't you ?
And where are you posting from ?

Posting reports? I really just cannot yet gather how sharing a report of my experience with a WG is beneficial, even to myself! Can somebody explain to me why I would want to spend my time doing this? I go through so much trouble to delete history, emails, sms to avoid being caught by my partner, that having a written record of my experience would be a killer and serve as very very bad evidence for my divorce if I were to go that far. Im sure the member from the Mate got caught thread can appreciate why now. However, I can see how sharing information could be helpful. I am not a regular punter, as I tend to score too. But sometimes, I want to score out of my league so that's when I punt. I am looking forward to scoring a beautiful girl in beijing! I hope its not overwhelming when I get there. Come to think of it, if it is this hard to find information on wgs in beijing on the internet (apart from the few outcall agencies google outputs) then how hard must it be when I get there? I had recently posted a video of a "beijing brothel slum". I am still in search of where is the brothel? Are there any brothels in beijing? does anyone know the address to the barber shops with beautiful woman providing sex? please give me a lead. so far only have those outcall agency numbers. How lucky will i be with them.

Anyway, based on some replies related to this thread, I am thinking that in the longer term of this sex trade I believe the punter wins. This is because the WG will age and become less valuable. The WG may also be more likely to contract STDs and multiple poundings may lead to her wearing diapers at older age. Afterall, the punter chooses? But its how wgs like the job and willingly do it that causes all my confusion and mislogic. Despite knowing all I know, they still do it. so i am missing something.

What your missing is the fact that this is a sharing forum
You come here to gather info from other bros kind enough to share and you tell us Your sharing is not beneficial ?
If you don't intend to share get off this forum !

errrr.... let me get this straight!

You've been asking and asking for info on "availability of good WG's" in China/Beijing for at least a month or so.  Then you chastise married punters for affairs/going with Wg's.

Now you're saying you're you've gotta cover "your tracks" so as that your "partner"  is not going to find out as you're afraid of divorce - thus confirming that you ARE married.

And now you're saying "why should I post reports?"  Did I get this correct?

Well...  this forum is about sharing info and we do that by writing reports about our own experiences with WG's - so.... since you're such a "womanizer" and Mr. Debonair "scorer" - please favor us all with a report of your conquests, experiences or whatever.  OK?

SEAJ

An anti-social person who only wants to get and fail to share isn't meant to be in a forum like this.

You appear to be married, and a "Womanizer" so there must be something that needs to be covered up before such tracks is unfolded by your better half.

Your posts are also useful, and it helps us find a lead and continue this thread.

Man, all that holier than thou crap and you're married too?

Anyway, the point of this forum is Bro's helping Bro's.  

I bet you never buy a round of beers either, right?  And you laugh all the way home!

Dick.

I'll make this short ... none of us cares who wins ... post a report or get off this forum !!!

if you read the forum deeply enough (or use the search function dammit), a lot of folks do share very good information that can answer your queries about WGs.

and you have already answered your own question in this thread, so be gone with your trolling.

No im not married, i said if I were to go that far.  I never buy beers cause im not a drinker... I do laugh all the way home though
But I get your points. There is still some gaps in my head about who benefits the most but in reality I think I better shut up about this topic now since some people dont like it. Cheer.

I guess not everyone is in the same boat as you. So maybe another group of friends can help you decide who "wins" or "loses" in that virtual fight between WGs and punters.

Good to know you're making a closure to this topic.

too damn right some people don't like your question

it's based on an idiotic premise

wrong thinking

making anything either/or is just dumb

the answer to your question is BOTH win, otherwise the business would never happen in the first place.  
Both punter and WG get what they want most,
each is giving up something they don't value in exchange.  
And the compromises each makes (looks, service, relationship, whatever) is acceptable to them both.  

sheesh ....

are you going to post a report ?

Dart, an excellent summary. I totally agree. Too bad it's wasted on an idiot!

I'm preaching to the choir as usual

geee.... i'm not sure i'm reading this right... you need to punt to "score out of your league"? it seems you've set a very low bar for yourself bro. aim high!