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the gvt is giving 8-9 free punts!

The government is giving out $6000 to all HKID holders... U all know what that means... Free punts for all!!! Yea!!!
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what is this free giveaway i hear about?
my friend just went back to hk and he told me about getting a free 6000 hkd
and i thought he was talking about relatives giving that to him
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it's like a stimulus package that the US did, originally the HK government was going to put the money in the retirement programs, but instead thought its citizens could use the cash, anyone 18 and over.
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To those who are confused:

Financial Secretary John Tsang Chun-wah on Wednesday proposed amending his budget by giving a cash payment of HK$6,000 to all Hong Kong permanent residents.

This is instead of putting the sum into people’s Mandatory Provident Fund (MPF) accounts – as was originally proposed in last Wednesday’s budget.

Speaking at a press conference, Tsang said: “This measure would cover most adult citizens in Hong Kong – including civil servants, housewives, and those [who have] already retired,” he added.

To help wage earners cope with rising living costs, Tsang also proposed a one-off reductions in salaries tax in the coming year, which could amount to 75 per cent in some cases.

The financial secretary also said an unspecified sum of money would be allocated to help people not benefiting from the cash handout. But he did not elaborate.

Asked whether the new measures would cause inflation, Tsang was coy, saying the government had to be vigilant.

The financial secretary said he has proposed the amendments to his budget after careful consideration of people’s needs. He said he had tried to strike a balance.

Democratic Party chairman Albert Ho Chun-yan said the amendments showed recent protests by people against the budget had been effective.

“Some people might be happier with these amendments... however, a number of problems, such as surging property prices... are still not being resolved.

“So I appeal to people to join the join the protest on March 6 to express their concerns,” Ho said.

After Tsang proposed last week injecting HK$6,000 into all MPF accounts, many people who were not eligible – including police, civil servants and public school teachers – said they would protest on March 6 against the budget.

*Excerpt from SCMP*
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Originally posted by rockypop at 2-3-2011 16:06
it's like a stimulus package that the US did, originally the HK government was going to put the money in the retirement programs, but instead thought its citizens could use the cash, anyone 18 and ove ...

technically, its not a stimulus package.
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Can anybody give a better justification for this? The US stimulus checks weren't this much and Hong Kong seems to be doing quite well overall: 3.8% unemployment (compared to nearly 10% in the US), huge number of IPOs last year, steady increase in Hang Seng Index over the past couple years.
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i wonder how much of that 6000 will go to wg's working illegally and not paying tax lol.
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w00t! Moar punting money. Actually going to Angeles and this will retro pay for that trip!
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by acerbe at 2-3-2011 15:01
The government is giving out $6000 to all HKID holders... U all know what that means... Free punts for all!!! Yea!!!

Wow... is this like Saudi Arabia giving away money so that there won't be an uprising like in Libya.

I guess when the bros get the chance to unload, it takes away some of edginess...
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how do i claim my 6k USD? is their some gov'd bank acct set up for all residents?

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if I have that HKD6000, I will buy a plane ticket to Thailand and get more punts
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Originally posted by scootermonger at 2-3-2011 18:26
i wonder how much of that 6000 will go to wg's working illegally and not paying tax lol.

Not many WG will get the $$$.
probably only some of the 141 walk-ups who has a permanent resident HKID can get the 6k.




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as i am a full time canadian resident but holder of hkid with absolutely no bank account or whatsoever but i have a gov appartment under my name
how am i suppose to claim that 6000...?
this is really confusing and im just using all my might to figure this out for free punts

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Reply #13 Canonball's post

Am curious - how is it that you are already a full-time permament Candadian resident but still have a Hong Kong Government apartment?

Is this one of those resettlement estates rentals?

Who's living in it now?

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Dont sweat on it yet....

Guys,
The cash rebate is not officially confirm yet.
Whether it will be approved, we will have to wait for the final announce around mid-year.

Eligibility:
1) > 18 Years Old
2) HK Permanent ID (exclude HK resident ID)


In fact, I still prefer the HK$10K rebate enjoyed 2 years ago, i.e. deducted against annual tax assessment.


HK$6K is not enough, but better than nothing.
Govt just wanna keep the public mouth shut, so Sir Donald Duck got to say some shit to put them to rest.....




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Reply #12 kaka's post

I should of phrased my question a bit better.  What I meant was, how much of that 6000hkd received by HK citizen's will be spent on wg's.
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HK$6K is not enough, but better than nothing.
Govt just wanna keep the public mouth shut, so Sir Donald Duck got to say some shit to put them to rest......

I think this will be approved because the response has been favorable. Keep their mouths shut? Yes, this will work as it worked for Macau but now in Macau the public annual payout is getting more sizable every year and it's become a regular annual event. Don't know if HK can keep it up because of the big population whereas in Macau only 350k people get paid 10k a year.
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Where do you go to get this 6000HKD? and all that is required is a permanent residency?
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Where do you go to get this 6000HKD? and all that is required is a permanent residency?

According to the proposal, this is correct. Details on how to go about getting the money has not been outlined but I think there is a registration process. The Financial Secretary did say that it would not be practical to mail out checks to everyone like they do in Macau so you may have to show up to collect the money at a designated place and time. More details should be announced shortly.
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an unprecedented U-turn that has caused as much derision as glee, Financial Secretary John Tsang Chun-wah yesterday announced a budget plan to distribute HK$6,000 cash handouts to all Hong Kong's adult permanent residents.

Bowing to political pressure and a plunge in popularity, Tsang revised his week-old budget and added two million more people to relief measures that ballooned by HK$16 billion to about HK$40 billion.

Just days after insisting that inflation would be fuelled if he were to change his budget proposal in any substantial way, Tsang withdrew his controversial plan to inject HK$6,000 in each of four million Mandatory Provident Fund accounts, a move widely criticised as unhelpful in particular to the middle class.

In its place, Tsang announced HK$6,000 cash handouts to about six million adult permanent residents, including housewives, retirees and even overseas emigrants. On top of that, salaried taxpayers will also get up to 75 per cent tax reductions capped at HK$6,000.

Asked if he should apologise to the public for the changes, Tsang said: "I find this suggestion a bit strange. I have said the most important thing now is to forge a consensus."

It will be the first time in Hong Kong's fiscal policy history that direct cash handouts have been given, though similar practices have been adopted in other places, including Singapore and Macau.

Political observers and economists warned that the government had not only deviated from its commitment to financial prudence but had also eroded its authority.

Raymond So Wai-man, dean of Hang Seng Management College's school of business, likened the government to a company caught up in a dividend row with its shareholders.

"It has now become a company and when the company makes a profit, it has to distribute a dividend," he said, adding that issuing cash handouts would create a public expectation in future and become a potential source of social unrest.

The HK$40 billion in handouts in Tsang's revised package comprise HK$4 billion in tax reductions to 1.4 million taxpayers and HK$36 billion in direct cash giveaways to the six million adult permanent residents.

How and when the HK$6,000 handouts will be distributed and the exact criteria for eligibility have yet to be spelled out. To minimise the impact on inflation, there might be an option to save the money. An unspecified sum would also be reserved for those not benefiting from the handouts, said Tsang, who yesterday met a group of pro-establishment lawmakers to resolve the crisis.

These lawmakers have now pledged support to the budget, but the pan-Democrats still oppose it, citing the budget's failure to address social and economic issues such as property prices and the pension fund. They say they will hold their scheduled protest against the budget on Sunday.

Economists say the handouts will push up inflation slightly, in an economy that comprises over HK$1 trillion in retail spending and a HK$600 billion fiscal reserve.

Bank of East Asia (SEHK: 0023) economist Tang Sai-on estimated the handouts would lift inflation by 0.2 percentage points to 4.7 per cent this year. "The cash handouts amount to about one per cent of the gross domestic product. Even if just half of that is spent, it will still push up inflation."

Political observers said that the revised handout plans might spare the budget from being vetoed in the legislature - but they are creating implications for governance greater than those on the economy.

Ma Ngok, a political scientist at Chinese University, said: "The government is expected to remain weak ... and the public now knows their demands will be met if they can mobilise mass support."

The U-turn on handouts came just a week after Tsang's budget speech. Despite a HK$70 billion surplus last year, he said he would recommend no direct cash or tax rebates for fear of stimulating inflation.

"Inflation is a problem for which we should be on alert," Tsang said yesterday. "Any similar measures will affect inflation. But all of us have heard clearly the strong demands from society. That's why I made this decision after striking a balance ."

The public seemed receptive to the revised package. As Liberal Party vice-chairwoman Selina Chow Liang Shuk-yee put it: "At least the Financial Secretary has heard the voices from the majority of citizens and political parties."

But the Hong Kong Council of Social Service said the government had failed to spend the surplus wisely, such as by boosting services to the underprivileged and elderly.

The politicians who met Tsang this week considered the changes a victory. "We appreciate the financial secretary's courage in making prompt responses," said Tam Yiu-chung, chairman of the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong.


Additional Notes:
Procedures in Singapore were such that those eligible would nominate a bank account.
Macau, I believed, didn't post cheques out, but those eligible would go collect the cheque?
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