Subject: Fran, a punters worst nightmare - Cancels All Appointments right when I arrive
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Fran, a punters worst nightmare - Cancels All Appointments right when I arrive

Time: Aug 3rd
Agent: Sasa
Girl: Fran
Face: 0/5 - didn’t see
Body: 0/5 - didn’t see
Service: 0/5 - didn’t experience
Agent: 1/5 - Agent failed to resolve situation adequately.  (Story below)

Have been reading all these reports of Fran and thought I had to try her before she left.  Booked her for Aug 3rd which was a Monday.  So had to clear up my schedule for that day and take time away from work.  

I am located in the Tsuen wan district so travelling to Fran’s hotel took one hour.

I got there on time and asked the agent(Sasa) for the room number.  The agent (sasa) told me Fran was angry and had left the hotel right when I arrived.  

I told Sasa this was highly unprofessional.  Fran should have told Sasa she wasn’t available to work that day instead of leaving the hotel right before my appointment without telling anyone.

In a heated phone call with Sasa, Sasa told me I shouldn’t be pissed and should look at the situation at Fran’s perspective.  Which pissed me off even further.  I had every right to be pissed at this situation.  We had an appointment and she left the hotel without telling anyone.

Sasa, also said Fran has done this a few times.  Which I told Sasa, why would you continue to give work to Fran if she is continuing to screw over clients.   

To resolve the situation Sasa booked me with 小泡芙 for $200 off which barely pays for the extra Uber ride there.  小泡芙 was on the other side of town.

小泡芙 was cute and provide a solid service. But she wasn’t worth $1600 and here is why.  Sasa has advertised her as coming from Taiwan,   She was from mainland china.  And the pic Sasa used to advertise her was highly faked and doesn’t look like her at all.  

You could get a similar mainland HG for $1200 max

So fuck you Fran and Sasa!  Thanks fro ruining my day!

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Reply #1 dontclickme's post

Tisk tisk  … failed attempt's no big deal with any girl !
It happens, live with it !
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Yea I hear u bro.  im just venting at Fran's unprofessionalism and Sasa's inept response to the situation.
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Reply #3 dontclickme's post

If she was pissed off and still received you, do you think you would have had a good encounter ?
You saved yourself 2.4K and you should thank your lucky star and BTW I think the agent was being honest with you … sometimes a woman's temperament is uncontrollable … especially if some bro ahead of you did something to piss her off so bad

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If she was pissed and gave me a bad service that would have been a different issue, and I would have reported it here.

I am just sharing a report of what happened today, hoping to give the brothers here wishing to see Fran a different perspective and more information to make better decisions.  Sasa has informed me she has done this on multiple occasions.

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cactuss   5-8-2020 15:52  Karma  +5   I'm with you
zebra   3-8-2020 21:47  Karma  +5   Fair point
Steveccc   3-8-2020 19:50  Karma  +3   Tough luck. She’s Brazilian I think.... very temperamental which can be awesome but can also be a nightmare.
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Reply #1 dontclickme's post

Sorry for the bad experience brother, you certainly did not deserve any of it and the fact that you made the effort to clear your day for the experience makes it all the more disheartening.

However, regardless of how badly we are treated, we have to call it as it is and state the truth for the rest of the bros on the forums.

So, after consolidating information from all sources, just a few points of clarification for the rest of the bros reading this post:-

1.) The reason for Fran's tantrum was due to stress as a result of the fire alarm in her room going off. Fran's english ability being insufficient and Sasa's inability to physically be there to help the situation resulted in a lot of tension between them. Fran felt vulnerable as she wasn't able to explain to the obviously pissed off hotel staff why in the hell her fire alarm had gone off, and Sasa was panicking regarding how to manage the rest of Fran's bookings for the day. Cue the tantrum and the cooling off period for both Fran and Sasa.

2.) True that Fran has done this many times, but regarding this occasion it is unfortunately a moot point.

3.) Sasa could only provide a $200 dollar discount because that is her piece of the pie. Any more would cut into 小泡芙's share which is not ideal.

4.) On close reading, Sasa only advertised 小泡芙 as providing GFE service "LIKE" a girl from Taiwan. Also, Sasa did provide a disclaimer on her telegram saying that 小泡芙's ad photos were not of the actual person. Misleading to the uninitiated, but we are initiated aren't we?

Unfortunate circumstances all around and if I were in dontclickme's shoes I would be equally as pissed, but for fairness' sake and for the health of the community as a whole I felt obligated to make these remarks.

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BootBoot   4-8-2020 09:32  Karma  +5   Good work putting it all together
Petay_1283   4-8-2020 09:28  Karma  +5   well said, thanks.
lamlamlay   4-8-2020 03:38  Acceptance  +1   Favorable!! Wow bro, sum it up really nicely.!! Well said
skebe   3-8-2020 23:53  Karma  +10   Yep
C090409920   3-8-2020 23:36  Karma  +2   Thanks for the details.
momozzz   3-8-2020 23:28  Karma  +2   good to know...
twiceAweek   3-8-2020 23:04  Karma  +4   interesting !
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Non of my points made in my post was untruthful.  Let me address all your points

1). Fran having a tantrum because her fire alarm went off does not make my post inaccurate.  I said she got angry and left the hotel.  Which she did.  Because of the Fire Alarm.  Who the fuck throws a tantrum because of a fire alarm.  That is unprofessional behaviour.   

2).  I don’t see why this is a moot point.  This post is to warn brothers she frequently cancels all appointments randomly.  So if she decides to work in HK again, brothers can decide whether they want to see her given she does this regularly.  Its also a criticism as to why Sasa would leave such a girl in her roster without warning brothers.

3). Again I was just reporting the facts.  She provided me a $200 discount as compensation.  Let brothers decide here if thats good enough or not.

4). Well I am not as initiated as u.  Putting a “like” in front of the description 台灣妹 (taiwan girl) make me think she was from Taiwan.  This is an intentionally misleading statement at best.  And regarding Sasa’s disclosure the picture was fake, ok I admit I didn't see it.  But I stand by my statement the fake picture look nothing like 小泡芙.

[ Last edited by  dontclickme at 3-8-2020 23:57 ]

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zebra   4-8-2020 23:09  Karma  +5   Fair points
joverz   4-8-2020 11:53  Karma  +4   I respect your stance brother, just trying to get as much information out there as possible
skebe   3-8-2020 23:55  Karma  +10   you are right too
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If I may add......

Re fake photo.....if you are a repeat customer, u may ask Sasa for the real photo and she might just show you.

Btw, Fran indeed is not for the faint hearted both on and off the bed.
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I saw Fran today after seeing it would be her last day in Hong Kong. I actually didn't see this post before I set off, it might have put me off going over there.

I think I was lucky, I did have to wait awhile to get the ok to go up, mama san was keeping me updated with screenshot of their conversation. She was definitely worth the wait. I'll write a report in the walk up section.

Sorry that OP got messed around, shit happens and all. If she comes back to Hong Kong I'd definitely recommend giving her a second chance
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mama san was keeping me updated with screenshot of their conversation.  ...

But did you understand what Fran said? If my life depends on it I still could not guess what she meant by `it took the client a long time to get to my father`
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I was a bit thrown off by, "anxious and nervous"  (she even reiterated in Chinese to sasa). But after reading this report it makes perfect sense.  Then when sasa pressed about when she'd be ready, it turned out that barbie was talking for Fran.  Apparently Fran's english wasn't good enough so had to get barbie to translate. Did ask sasa if Chinese girl was available, thankfully she was full

The final reason why she needed more time was hilarious. Made me crack up as I was waiting. Sasa was apologising throughout, can't fault her comms.

P.s. Skebe, thanks for your report on Fran. Its what got me interested in giving her a try. Your forum status is on point, fucking legend!

[ Last edited by  yellowflash8 at 4-8-2020 00:32 ]
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Reply #7 dontclickme's post

What an interesting thread. I saw Fran a couple of times. Both of which were the best fucks ive ever had. My 2 cents:

Balancing how hot fran was And the pse ive experienced against a chance of a no show (as helpfully reported here) id take my chances any day. If no show, no problem, ill just head to OPS for some R&R.  My advice for a long and fruitful punting career is to keep your options open, have a plan b (especially if youve intentionally took time off work) and not fret too much about a no show. Shit happens. When it does, go for plan b.

But thats just my opinion. It is also my opinion That sasa is one of the better agents ive dealt with in my 15 years of punting. Every agent will slip up. Its how they deal with it that counts and judging from what she did on this occasion, id say she should get an A for effort and acted in goodfaith. Whether you decide to accept her good faith and give her another chance is up to you.  Not saying she was right for leaving you hanging  but saying that she deserves another chance based on my dealings with Sasa. If you really think Sasa didnt handle this situation well, id suggest you quit the 141 scene ... itll save you a lot of trouble and pain.

One last thought....no matter how angry you are now, time will wash it away and one day you will understand and accept there are actually ppl who would  throw tantrums because of a fire alarm. Just like how some ppl would actually throw tantrums because of a cancelled punt....

[ Last edited by  kalip at 4-8-2020 02:38 ]

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I've been in the punting scene just as long as you've been buddy and this has never happen to me.  Never needed a plan B.  

I am not throwing a tantrum writing this thread, I am just sharing my experience today in my opinion.  Which im allowed to do.

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Reply #12 kalip's post

I definitely agree on always having a plan b. I think that's solid advice for life in general.

Regarding the cancelled punt, I actually think Sasa providing a $200 discount is pretty good.. I've had this happen to me before (not by Fran) and the agents usually don't do anything and just tell you to try to rebook next time.

I get why the OP is upset at the situation. If I moved my entire day's schedule around Fran and she suddenly cancels when I just arrive at the hotel, I'm sure I wouldn't be happy about it either.

We're all allowed to have a bad day at work...




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Sasa's compensation of $200 wasn't my only issue with her, it was how she advertised 小泡芙.  The girl she book me to see when Fran fell through.  More details in my original post.

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Reply #15 dontclickme's post

take it easy guys both guys are on point and both have best of intentions to keep all well informed
lets look at the big picture
there is no need to keep defending one's words. all are well meaning
miscomm is how world wars are started over the smallest issues

fran is a good fuck
fran fucked up and missed appointment
balls are blue and frustrated

end of story
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@Dontclickme, looks like sasa has persuaded Fran to stay. I know you feel pretty pissed off with her and sasa, but I'd say give them another chance.  

I take most reports with a pinch of salt when people wax lyricals about a certain girl here.  Everybody has a different opinion on how hot a girl is and the experience and level of service my differ from bro to bro.  This is one of the few times where every report is spot on.

Regarding your issue with 小泡芙, you should now be able to read a report in the hotel walk in section. The report there explains the situation behind her fake photos etc.

Your bad report on Fran I think is useful for other people, at least people will know there's a chance she'll go AWOL. I would still give her a go if I hadn't already, based on the positive reviews but as with all appointments have the expectation it may go balls up.
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haha i dont get why so many people here are trying to defend sasa and fran. obviously this guy came from far as hell and got screwed, what is there to discuss? these are whores, and you guys are defending them like they mean anything to you. come on.

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Reply #18 perriersons08's post

Lol...exactly. Shit happens, move on.
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I think that the agent made the situation as well as it could be, probably couldn't do more. Shit happens and even the best have their off days. We learn to move on and shoot somewhere else!
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