Ok so; i met a WG in Macau; she hates her job...just wants to make enough money to return home where she can get some training for beauty school and become self sufficient.

Have you bros experienced  something like that? I'm such a sucker for redemption and pet projects... Initially i blew her off but as i got to know her a bit she seems pretty genuine; and I don't expect that I'm going to tap her ass again.
However would you give her a chance or would you pass?

I know you cant save the world...but would you be willing to save one person?? She's asking for about 4k...which I could handle...its not chump change but i make enough to cover it.

Problem the biggest dilemma for me is looking like an idiot and believing in someone and then getting pie in the face. (losing the money would suck too).

Just want to hear thoughts.

Thats always a hard one, as the biggest issue is trying to find out if its a genuine i just want out, or if its a genuine "i just want your money'

Had both with girls in Macau before and sadly its never ended well, just think about it, what are you going to get out of it, what do you think you might get out of it (is it the satisfaction of helping her or something else), and if its a cost you
can swallow

There are some girls who are all about the $$ and some who are just trying to make a living, there's a few East Spa & 18 Sauna girls i know who are now out of the business running their own businesses, but i also had an experience with one
girl who wanted money to get out, and then i bump into her in Singapore a few weeks later and she;s working there and it seemed like the money she had been asking me for, was to help her go freelance!

The biggest issue and might make me sound bad, is if your heart gets involved as thats when the consequences either way will affect you

Your so right...

I had to think long and hard...my bro also questioned my motivations...he said.." you better not expect like your going to be with her and she's going to be your woman". if you help her you better just make sure you don't put your heart in it and help her as a friend to get her off her feet and thats it. No sexual motivations or favors whatsoever.  

I'm coming to grips with that...still taking some time hehe. Its funny you mention it she comes from Waldo   ...I think she may have been at East spa for abit as well.

yes; losing money is like watever but losing my heart is something..i don't want to experience at all.  So far I don't see any red flags..she wants to make sure I'm serious because she insists she is serious. Well see though.

Thanks zbmthethird lot of sage advice from you.

I've been helping out a civi college girl for a bit. Could've been a ripe sugar-daddy scenario, but she hasn't put out.

It's tough, cause once you're in, financially, you don't want to lose your investment. It's a bit like gambling.

It's unrelated, but the point is about your heart, after money's involved.

Assume it is 4k per month for a year or so?? Maybe make it conditional.. like paying directly to which ever school she joins and only a smaller amount as living expense..

In Shenzhen there are many girls who can earn 3000-4000RMB minimum in every days. After half or one year they can "reboot" their life.
By the way i can imagine a WG for become my girlfriend and/or wife , but i am 100% sure they don't need my save.

The problem I have found with WGs that "want out" is that, unless they get married, many find it hard to leave for good because it's fast money. Be careful of the ones who carry iPhone and luxury purses. You're not going to make near as much working at a "normal" job as an undereducated young person.
These girls (luxe addicts), tend to still do it part time or have one or more SDs.

~UD

They all have a story.
Personally I don't ask thus no chance of getting involved.

They're earning a lot of money so they should be in a position to get out in a year or two and do whatever.

Over the medium-to-long term, there is NO R.O.I. on WG redemption cases.  It is a fantasy to think otherwise.  

If you happen to prove me wrong, please do report back on your Unicorn of a redemption case in a year or so.

Most, if NOT all, the girls joining this industry nowadays are

for better life but not for basic SURVIVAL.

They want $ to buy the iphones, branded items....ect.

In view of their earning power ( 5k per day), pls reconsider

their necessity to be saved

Now out of curiosity, does it matter if you're "saving" a girl  who isn't from Macau or HK? Say Thailand or whatnot? Or concept for most is the same. A WG is a WG not worth saving etc

I've seen a few that were not regulars. Just did it occasionally and were very selective. (Potential sugar daddy type thing) Those are worth "saving". Those that have gotten neck deep in the business are not savable. They have lost self respect. Lost cause. Don't waste your time and money. It only happens in the movies, i.e. Pretty Woman.

I did befriend a bar girl and followed her "exits" from the girls bar scene.
First try : Start working in a factory. Result : Back in the bars after a couple of month. Too much effort for too small pay.
Second try: Start working as a model in a 2nd tier city. Result : Back in the bars after a couple of month as the customers that ordered the model shows expected additional services (and she didn't want to provide these)
Third try : Start a beauty shop. Result : Back in the bars as you have somehow have to pay the rent.

All in all, I don't think your money would save her. Chances are small. These girls don't work in their actual jobs without reason. Expect them to lack education and experience.
Only chance to get out is having a "personal trainer", somebody who invests personal time additional to the money, e.g. as boyfriend.
You can't coach her? Save your money.

[ Last edited by  wulaide at 10-10-2017 05:33 ]

With the bullshit stories from the Thai girls I always hear I am not sure I would be willing to listen to more BS from any girl in any country. They all have problems.  Whether it be family, family health, their own health, their kids, blah blah blah.   I meant two in Thailand recently telling me that they don't want to do this work, one has a college degree, another HS, telling me a few in the club they work have master's degrees but the salary in Thailand sucks.   Asked one of them to come to my hotel afterwards, they wanted 5k for overnight, and I was like nope. I won't. They all play with our minds.  Some of them want out, yes, I agree, but it is VERY hard to figure out which ones are serious and which ones just want to milk you for more money.  They are making a lot more money then they would be at a normal job, even if they don't like it, they also know it.  Is it right, well probably not, but until governments offer these women better salaries to get them out of those places, they will always exist.  Just my two cents.