Subject: What are procedures for a PRC national to go to THAILAND?
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Post at 22-8-2011 10:17  Profile P.M. 
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Originally posted by SEAJ at 21-8-2011 18:40

- Forget about the Visa on Arrival to LOS if you plan on travelling privately and NOT part of a group! The Chinese immigration will not even allow you to leave the country without a valid pre-acquired visa to Thailand.

i think there are many loopholes.

I went to Pattaya with a Guangzhou girl.
We travelled from Zhuhai ferry terminal to HKIA directly, then flew to Bangkok.
She did not apply for Visa, but when we were at Zhuhai immgration, she went into a small room to fill up a form.
When she crossed the immigration, she gave her passport and that form, then went thru without any problems.
i asked her what that form is for, she said the form is a confirmation of her residency status, return-air ticket, hotel accom.
the people in the small room checked all details and approve the form. the immigration officer will let her leave the country as long as the form is signed and confirmed... even if she doesn't have a pre-applied Visa.


Another reason why i say Thailand Visa is not needed:
several PRC girls that i met in Macau, they do not have Thailand visa, but they also managed to fly to Bangkok from Macau.
i remembered clearly, because one of them invited me to go with them, i didn't want to go, so i lied, and said i don't have Visa, so can't go.
all of them laughed at me and said even they themselves do not need Visas, why do i need one?
hence i always have the impression that there are many many ways to get out the country without a Visa.

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Post at 29-8-2011 12:20  Profile P.M. 
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NO permit is need for HKA during transit

It sounds like you just need some proof of transit to HKA. NO permit is need for HK.

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Subject: RE: Re: visa for China

Our ref. : IL/00525009/11

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your e-mail message.

Under the present arrangement, holders of People's Republic of China (PRC) passport who are in transit through the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR) to and from another country or territory (Overseas -» HKSAR -» Mainland China and Mainland China -» HKSAR -» Overseas) may be granted a stay of seven days on each landing without prior need to obtain an entry permit.

However, they must satisfy the immigration officer on arrival that they meet with the normal immigration requirements and qualify for entry as bona fide visitors, including possession of adequate funds to cover the duration of stay without working and, unless in transit to Mainland of China, the holding of onward tickets.

I hope you will find the information useful.


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I sent them an email to [email protected]  and got a reply back

To : [email protected]
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Subject : Re: visa for China
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Thank for your reply...
  
1. So there is NO need to obtain a visa ( entry permit ) to HK before entering HKG.  

    Note: a visa will be gotten for the other country before leaving for Hong Kong,

2. Then there is NO need to obtain a visa ( entry permit ) when returning....

Is this correct ?

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from their website:  http://www.immd.gov.hk/ehtml/hkvisas_9.htm
  
Transit

14. Chinese passport holders who are in transit through Hong Kong to and from another country or territory may be granted a stay of seven days on each landing without the prior need to obtain an entry permit provided that usual immigration requirements are met, including possession of valid entry facilities for the destination and confirmed onward booking for the overseas journey.

15. If a Mainland resident is in possession of both valid EEP and Chinese passport, he/she may, upon his/her entry into Hong Kong and in accordance with his/her purpose of visit, produce his/her EEP or Chinese passport (except arriving from Macao and via Hong Kong to the Mainland) for entry into Hong Kong.

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Enquiries

37. For enquiries, please telephone the Hong Kong Immigration Department on (852) 2824 6111 or by fax (852) 2877 7711 or through e-mail : [email protected] ; or the Immigration Section of the Beijing Office on (8610) 6657 2880 extension 033 or by fax (8610) 6657 2823.

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Post at 3-9-2011 01:17  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #22 Weelock's post

PRC side is generally much stricter than HK side.
so if PRC immigration can let a person leave, HK usually will let them in.


and new update;
last night i was talking to a ChangChun girl.

she entered HK using only her passport. No visa, no permit, no multi-pass used.
she went to Lowu, went to a travel agency shop, bought a fake Cambodia return airticket for RMB 300.
tried entering HK thru Lowu, but got rejected, PRC immigration said she doesn't have sufficient documents to leave the country...
she then went to the border at Shenzhen Wan, and this time, managed to enter HK.
after playing in HK for 7 days, she came back to China via Shenzhen, the PRC immgration officer ask her why there's no Cambodia chop on the passport?
she just reply.. "Oh I missed my flight, no money to afford another ticket.."
that's it, end of story, she just used RMB 300 to enter HK.

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Post at 3-9-2011 02:03  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #23 kaka's post

OH WOW!!  No doubt that this is all true.
Typical of PRC dudes to right away be able to spot and take advantage of ANY loop-holes.

I now worry that if this "practice" gets to be used too often by PRC nationals, that sooner or later the Hong Kong Immigration department is going to be a whole lot stricter.

I mean,  the way things are right now with the HK government just giving these PRC nationals 7 days to "transit" through Hong Kong - how long are they going to continue doing this if it keeps getting abused as per your post?

BTW - Cambodia is another country that insists everybody has a visa to enter - but will provide such visa on arrival; thus allowing the Government to over-charge for this visa, whilst the immigration officers also rakes it in in terms of bribes, "acceptable" passport photos which costs US$20 to take at the airport, form filling service etc etc!

Sigh....!!

SEAJ

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Post at 3-10-2011 14:37  Profile P.M. 
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A follow up

Just as a follow up - since I just got back from my trip to Thailand with a PRC national.

We went as solo travellers and thus my PRC national friend did have to pre-apply for a Thai visa. (only a PRC GROUP traveller would be eligible for Thai Visa on arrival - PLUS  The PRC immigration control would not allow a PRC national to LEAVE the country if travelling solo and without an onward destination visa).

We arranged this visa thru a CP travel agent for RMB 350 plus 2 passport photos - which is quite reasonable IMHO as the cost charged by the consulate for the visa alone is (as stated on the visa) already RMB 230, and we didn't need to go ourselves up to GZ and line up etc in the morning.  This single entry tourist Visa was good for 3 months, and upon entry in Thailand, the permitted stay was for 60 days vs. just 30 days if you didn't have this visa.

We travelled via Hong Kong (spent a day at Disneyland of all places!! Yeah!) and the PRC national was given a 7 day transit visa for Hong Kong, and would have been given another 7 days transit visa in Hong Kong on the way back, but as it was, we travelled directly from Bangkok to Shenzen.

Just FYI

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 3-10-2011 14:39 ]

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