I guess I don't have such a black and white attitude to "sex for money" arrangements.  To my eye, there is a continuum that runs from the 15-minute quickie with the streetwalker to 141 and hotel girls to low-volume freelancers to mistresses to trophy wives.  As you move from the low end to the high end, the duration of the contractual term increases and there is an increasing degree of intimacy and real feelings.  Oh, and probably the freqency of sex goes down, while the cost goes up!

So I don't see that a maid who has sex with her boss is necessarily a WG.  Maybe it's just an arrangement...  I was actually considering such a three-part deal.  I want a Putonghua teacher, and I am happy to teach English in return.  I need some light cooking and cleaning done.  I enjoy a regular ongoing casual "fuck buddy" style relationship.  So what would be wrong with finding some cute young mainland girl who would come be my "domestic helper" on these terms for a couple years?  It would be purely consensual.  There would be no coercion involved.  It may be lunacy and inadvisable, but what would be morally wrong with this arrangement?  

The interesting question to me is the contractul one.  The Labour Department requires an employment contract that must adhere to a variety of terms.  There appear to be two key restrictions: (1) the domestic helper can only be required to provide services as specified in the contract; and (2) these specified services must be "domestic duties"...  Could having sex be considered a domestic duty and thereby written into the contract?   

Have fun, CGP

don't shit where you eat...

i think it is important to keep this open as view points can be shared...i, personally, don't condone.  i think it presents a difficult position for both the domestic helper and the guy involved...

if you want to get rid of her b/c of performance with her work, it will be tough, b/c she can use the physical action to get you...if one has the financial capabilities to hire domestic help, he has the means to monger...separating the two is just cleaner...

Nothing, but getting her to leave is the tricky part.  I hope for your sake that you tell her the rules of the game beforehand.  And don't get jealous if she meets another dude and leaves you in the dust.

ummm, i'm not sure how the conversation moved into contract specifics for work visas, but i think that there is a clear distinction here between the acceptable and unacceptable situations.

look people fall in love every day. they meet in odd ways, and what's to say that a guy won't honestly be interested in a women that he's now in contact with once he's gotten to know her. this doesn't seem bad to me, although it could be awkward if the feelings aren't returned.

the bad situation here is when a guy hires a maid for the purpose of exploiting her sexually and doesn't disclose that he's intent to use her that way as part of their arrangement. this is pretty much a clear case of sexually predatory behavior, and can't be condoned.

maybe it's my personal bias, but i got the impression that the original post that spawned this discussion was the latter. the fellow who asked seemed to be trying to NOT have sex with a whore, and wanted to figure out a loophole for his own misguided and self-deluded reasons. did i get this wrong? reading that post reminded me of highschool geeks talking about their plans for their D&D characters, inexpensive exclusivity that's covered up and doesn't have any risks, and he can still claim he's never paid for sex. oh, and he's not really planning on doing it...

again, to AHartford, I say, "MAN UP, get a girlfriend if you want someone that sleeps with you and cleans up around the house. and grow a couple and have the balls to go see a WG if all you want it sex."

-G

Interesting points-of-view.  I feel it would be a mistake as well, but for different reasons.  It's hard to find an Ayi who is honest and performs her duties well.  There's plenty of WG's around if you want to p4p and should not mix the two.  Best case you screw her and she becomes your wife/mistress then you just lost a good housekeeper.  Worst case you screw her and she really screws you in a bad way.

When I first came to Shanghai and we started doing interviews my partners warned me.  Some of the girls specifically look for foreign bosses in hopes the boss/worker relationship will turn into something more.  It's not uncommon either.

Rape is wrong and I would have no problems putting a man down like a dog for forcing himself on someone, but the question in the other thread was Maid with benefits.  Why are some people getting so judgmental?  Or am I missing something?   French maid, policewoman, nurse are all very popular role-play uniforms...

With respects to Gary I'm not sure what D&D has to do with this?

If you read about how the media portrays 'johns' we're all sexual misogynistic deviants who could never have a decent and normal relationship.  And then you have someone like say... Woody Allen.  What say you all on this matter?