Well, I ventured forth and tried my first 161sex girls tonight.  For those of you who haven't scoured the alternative site, i think it's fair to say that 161sex is targeted at a slightly different WG demographic.  For starters, they don't have ads for HGs...  not one, ever.

My focus this evening was CSW and SSPo -- and mostly CSW.  To give you some sense for the demographic differences, the average FS cost in CSW on 161sex is about $300; on sex141, the average is about $380.  

The general reputation of 161sex is that that the women are older and the pictures and descriptions are less truthful.  I really can't say, because my sample of sex141 ladies is still quite small.  But on the basis of three experiences tonight -- admittedly too small a number to have an meaningful sample (I was game, but it was getting late) -- I offer the following observations:

(1)  161sex ads list ages.  In CSW, many of the girls are in their 20s.  But some are listed as "unavailable."  I saw one "unavailable" tonight.  "Unavaiiable" does not mean that the advertiser simply forgot to supply an age.  It means that the lady's age is so high that you don't really want to know what it is...  It's probably in the vicinity of her bra size -- which for some of these women is pushing 40.  For example, the lady I saw tonight moved to HK 16 years ago when she got married...  Do the math...

(2)  All pictures lie.  That's a given.  I rated each woman's pictures on a 0-5 scale prior to my visits.  Then I formed a second rating based on the actual in-the-flesh experience.  What I observed -- again on the basis of a miniscule sample -- was as follows.  The ladies in their 20s had figures about 1/2 point below their pictures.  The lady whose age was "unavailable' was using old pictures -- accordingly, herr actual marks were more like a full point lower than her "picture" scores.

(3)  The vast majority of the pictures have blurred faces.  In general, I think the women blur their faces for privacy reasons, rathe than to deceive us punters.  All three of the women I saw tonight had blurred their faces.  The two ladies in their 20s had faces in the 3.5 range (or perhaps slightly higher).  The one women who was older was in the 2.5 range.  In general, I think all that we can reasonably infer from a lack of facial pictures is that a woman will have an average face -- the reality, of course, will be better or worse.  What I think is true, however, is that younger women -- on average -- have more attractive faces.  So the default expectation for a woman in her 20s should probably be 3.0 to 3.5, whereas for an older woman, 2.5 to 3.0 is probably more reasonable.

I would love to hear feedback from other guys who have ventured forth and tried 161sex ads...

P.S.  After my first appointment, I was standing on a street corner in CSW trying to bring up a girl's info on 161sex.  OK, I'm the only white guy in CSW at 10:30 pm on  Saturday night, and I'm peering intently at a BlackBerry screen while standing on a street corner.  If you have no idea what's going on, you might just assume that I'm a clueless gwei lo.  But if you have a clue, you know exactly what I'm doing.  So this young couple walks by.  When the man passes me, he makes snorting pig noises at me...  Like he expects I will care?  :-)

[ Last edited by  Caligynephiliac at 11-1-2009 04:42 ]

Generally I do agree with you on ratings
Though the 161 site really doesn't compare to the number of girls 141 ever has.

There are a few places that I find on 161 that I do not find on 141. Some buildings in sham and csw do not come up on 141 and some do. One building in particular in the sham brings in the hottest Thai girls. Just one room is good. The others have olde ladies but great service...

The pictures and quality are simple making it easy for a person to decide. Basically, if they look good, you're generally not going to say no when they open the door. 141 sometimes the photos are really nice but the report is no good.

Some of the kowloon city girls are good but some overlap as well.

I just tend to stay here since the English forum rocks!

thnaks for your thoughts on 161.  I've never ventured down that road as I have always found the 141 site more user friendly.  

I checked out that site before and again after your post.   I just think its geared for the local guys.   If you go to Yuen Long section you will see a girl named
Home Vegetable.  Her prices are $200 and $300.      I like my vegetables but for that price I am a bit scared.

True about SSP -  you see more places in different districts but I know some of those streets and they ain't cool.

Don't get caught with your pants down. Lots of drug addicts there.

Does anyone have translations for the chin. service descr. on 161?

[ Last edited by  zulu at 18-1-2009 23:04 ]

ditto to the post above!

I'm not sure it matters, since most of the services are irrelevant and as Twice pointed out in a different thread, the services listed are used as a ploy to get you to the door. Once you're there they'll tell you what they do and don't do.

Regardless, you should just cut and paste the list into google translate to get an idea of what they are. If you go digging I know someone has translated them properly in an old post.

-G

As you said, too small a sample.  Try some non-blurred ones, and you'll see the difference, eg. Anna in SSP or Janny in PE who are both absolute dolls in person.  Having looked at the 141 DB pics and the real shots, you can say the same thing about the mark deductions for the girls there too with all that PS.  I've never had a problem with the 161 service, but then again I only stick with the Thais and have never tried the 161 chinese WGs.

whenever a guy tapping on his pda phone in a fishy and secretive manner along Kimberly Road or Lockhart Road... there can only be one explanation.

Shit... I better be more careful about where I tap my phone in future!

I sometimes use 161 to cross reference girls who advertise on both sites. 161 tends to have more revealing pics!!

Well, if you're using the phone to look at the map to find your way around, its a whole lot less obvious to the casual observer. Cos thats what I did in HK, using my phone to find my way around.

For the 141 pictures (to compare HG vs picture in case of bait of switch tactic), I keep them in a SD card, and pop it into my camera only when visiting. Wouldn't want any one to see the pictures in my phone or digital camera.   for me but a good for the other party I'm sure.

Before hunting, its always good to do research (price, location) well ahead of time .

A daft question that everyone probably knows the answer to already but what does it mean if someone is snorting like a pig? Is it a reference to some Canto phrase like 'rousing chickens'?