I just wonder how you brothers hide your 2nd life from your spouse, girlfriend ? I'm fortunate to have a girlfriend that doesn't check nor control my finances. Must the question strike me in the near future (How come you spend so much lately?), I've got a ready made answer because I play poker regularly.Just lost a few hundred euros babe, bad luck. A buddy of mine got struck with the question and he couldn't come up with an answer immediatly, which raised suspiscion. So he's laying a bit low lately... how do you guys do it with family and all that?

I keep telling my wife I want a divorce. So I don't bother to explain anything to her.

budget. reserve.
As long as the monthly fixed costs are taken care of.

The rest is separate control. Your money is yours. Mine is mine.

I do not tell them how much is my payroll. My dad taught me.......till this very day my mum have no clue how much my dad use to earn and how much assets he have, neither do I.

Rule of thumb...when it comes to $$$$$, do not reveal 100%.

... and married with three kids, brownstone mortgage, car payments, etc...  takes a lot of balance.  You only have  GF, so she has 0% rights to your financial status, nothing written in stone and GFs can be kicked easier than an innocent cat waiting to be petted.  As Hunter says, hide some shit.  I put up about 70% for show and the other 30% I have hidden in various places that only my parents and siblings know about since they are partial beneficiaries if I should die.  Whenever I get a huge bonus, I show about 50% and the 50% goes again to my MAD money funds.  Whatever I have coming home, my wife has 100% control of financially.  She's a financial genius, and sometimes I wished I had brought home more money for her to invest but we are comfortable.  But I do need my WGs, GFs and mistresses to keep my interests therefore I have a lot of hidden finances and even a credit card (goes to my parents address) just for extracurricular activities.  So if you think having a GF and seeking WGs is tough, wait till you are married and living a double life with a mistress.  If I were you, I would just stick with WGs on occasion, I don't think you have the gall (not an insult, please don't take it as one OK?) to play hard.  Hunter is hardcore, I could see his ass married and doing the same shit I am doing with a better expertise but then again, the pressures are no joke and it seems he is the only bro in here who has felt that pressure or at least expressed it as well as I could describe it myself.

Speaking of Dads,  did he also say, play outside but never bring anything home?  LOL... my Dad is a hardcore player too, I guess it's genetic.

Thanx for the advice. And you're right, I'm no way near as hardcore as you guys. Mistress', I don't even want to think about that, after all...I pay them to leave, so this mistress thing kind of contradicts my punting philosophy. I go out play from time to time, 2-3 times a month at the most and intend to keep it that way, if not less. You guys have taken it far, secret credit cards and stuff.... My former boss and good friend has taken it even further, he rents a 3000 sq ft appartment with a buddy of his and holds sexparties over there every month. I use it occasionally if I call an escorte, saves me the hassle of a hotelroom. What money can buy huh...

At the moment there's no pressure on you  because she is only your GF and she only has you on the line. Once married, then the pressure is on and she reels you in. So set yourself up now for future mongering.

Sounds like you're on the way bro.   You've gotta outsmart the SO - anticipate questions and always
have a ready answer. I can give reasons for being seen in TST or Mong Kok but I have no reason for being up
in Tai Po or Yuen Long so that's why I don't go.

  surely not having a reason is not why you don't go to Tai Po ...

BINGO...although I'm quite young and I don't have a girl friend right now I've never liked anyone in my family trying to tell me how to spend my money, so I never let them know how much money I have.

My dad also taught me that its always important to have your own money, money know one knows about so you can spend it anyway you like.  My dad is not a hardcore monogerer, but he does love gambling so he always has his own 'gambling' bankroll, that my mom doesn't know about.  But he trust his parents, so he keeps a lot of money with them.

Me I basically only trust my brother, so we have a number of saftey deposit boxes where we keep our money in, (yes I know it illegal to put money in safety deposit boxes!)

I also play a lot of poker so if my parents  or girlfriend at the time ask me why I seem 'poor' sometimes I just say bad night with the boys..lol

That's a surprise???!!! I never knew that.
Or is it illegal in other countries but not in Hong Kong?

I never knew that either since I've seen plenty of people had huge wads of 500 EURO notes ($5000HKD equivilant) into safe deposit boxes...

The only difficulty in the UK is proving where the money came from, I stored a large wedge from selling 10 bikes once in a safe depo box bought loads of crap bikes and fixed them up for a nice 30% profit....

I was asked about it but could provide receipts.

Thats only fair though if you are 100% self sufficient....

Also that there is no blow back, in that one of my uncles is or was a po po ching type and saved nothing for his retirement, my dad ended up looking after him for years as he saved nothing for his retirement......

I also have to constantly bail out my sister because she made lots of unwise investment decisions...


heh I'm not sure if GFs are worth it though I've had a couple of short termers in my absence, sure you can do all sorts of things with them you can't do with WGs but I find most UK girls terribly shallow, they either shop or go drinking..... but as some have said WGs are a snack while GFs are a main meal... but then again my life is busy.

Which probably means GFs in HK are even more shallow since by enlarge Chinese women don't go out on the piss as much as UK women , (I spent a part of last night thinking whoa I'm sort of drunk, while the woman next to me was on her 15th pint)

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I have a GF and did once get kinda caught out.  She found a list I had temporarilly made for me and a buddy.  We were planning a day and night of cruising round many WG's.  The list had our names and list of girls under each by location.  She found it and immediately knew they were WG's names and of course confronted me, I had to drop my buddy in it.  Say it was all for him.  I guess she dind't notice my name on the list as she accepted that as an answer.  She hates him now, but after i told him what had happened he admitted it was what he'd do in the same situation.  On the plus side, whenever i want to have a crazy night out, i say I'm going out with him and she never wants to come too
As for finances, she has no idea how much i have, which is a good thing as she'd expect a lot more from me if she did.  I have always had to provide for myself (due to my seriously sucky family) and that has left me with no one to worry about when it comes to criticising my spending.  I'm way too young for marriage at the moment, but don't intend on giving away my finance status to anyone once i do marry.  Especially after hearing such sound advice from the more experienced fellows here, cheers guys!

I have a girl friend, she calls my wife when she can't find me. And they chat.....

When I got home, my wife told me : your girl firend called.

But then, my wife and me has been not sleeping together for many years.

I was upfront when I decided to find a new life, it did take years, but not that difficult.

Why are you still married and living together?

The Chinese thing for one, as people just don't divoice
For children being the second reason.

I think have been lived in the US helps, otherwise, I doubt my wife would let me do what I do now.

if you think girls in the UK are shallow...you better not move to HK..

I have yet to meet a HK girl with depth that is purely local.  I'm not trying to look down on the girls in HK, but they are just ever so shallow.  Most HK girls I've met with depth have been outside HK for school, like England/US/Canada/Australia, and are usually more wealthy.

The 'poorer' local HK girls are just want your money!

  well said. Once you get into their pant, they get into your pocket......faster than WG.

UK gals are fine, just fat......but there are not shallow at all.

Bottom line is you need to control both the cash flow and the information about the volume of cash flow.

Best to have cash flow from 2 different sources and then disclose only one to family. You may never know when you need to use some of this money for something serious or important (not that our favorite hobby is not important) that you may not want to have to discuss with a wife.