So many members on this board as well as other boards on the internet speak of Thai girls so negatively. They are spoken of as lying, deceitful, conniving con artists who seek to trick men into falling in love just to get money out of them. That these girls are primarily motivated by the money they could get out of a man and will chew him up and spit him out, leaving him broke and his life in shambles.

Most of us to Thailand for the sexual freedom that we don't have at home. We want to fuck as many young, hot whores as possible for as little as $30 USD. We don't go with the desire to meet a whore, fall in love and turning a whore into a housewife.

I don't think you all need a reminder that at the end of the day, these working girls are girls, no different firm girls where you come from. They have dreams, goals, aspirations. Many see the "whore life" as an opportunity to meet a nice foreign man who will take care of her. An hope of a better life.

As alluded to before, many of us are not in Thailand to be these whores' dreams, goals and aspirations. These situations are no different from situations at home where we just want to casually fuck with no strings attached. But we all know, shit happens Sometimes we develop romantic feelings for a whore whether or not that was a part of our intent in visiting Thailand. Now thoughts of a relationship (or even more) is coming to mind.

If you are comfortable with the idea of being in a relationship with a whore. A girl who has taken hundreds if not thousands of cocks in her pussy and ass for maybe $30 USD. A girl who has sucked the semen out of hundreds or thousands of cocks, and maybe even swallowed it all. A girl who has done all she can to please customers who are physically the most unattractive kind of guys. A girl who might have exposed herself to, and who might be carrying all sorts of disgusting STDs. Knowing all that, if you could be comfortable with the idea of being in a relationship with her, why the fuck not?

Personally, I'm absolutely comfortable with being in a relationship with a Thai whore, knowing that all the aforementioned sexual history might be true. Reason being is that I have dated many girls here in the states who have had sex with countless men for free. I'm talking middle class, college educated women with sexual histories that are promiscuous, you wonder what sets them apart from the Thai whores. These are include girls who had no problem meeting guys at bars and going  home with them same night. Girls who have no problem meeting guys online and going home with them on the first date. Girls who have indulged in the occasionally gang bang, orgy, etc. I have even come regular American girls who have confessed to a history of chlamydia, herpes and HIV. Frankly, I think the only thing that sets apart Thai whores from many American girls is that Thai whores get paid for being a slut and many Americans are sluts for free.

Another reason why I am personally comfortable with the idea of being in a relationship with a Thai whore is because being a customer doesn't make be better than any of these girls. So, we have feelings for girl and we are comfortable with the idea of being in a relationship with them. Many would say run for the hills. She only want your money. She will pretend the feels are mutual and rip you off. She will suck at muck money out of you, leaving you with a broken heart and broke pockets.

Many board members make it seem like relationships with women in America or wherever they are from are free and predictable. I had to spend $500 USD on dates courting my current girlfriend before we started fucking. I still have to take her out on regular dates and buy her gifts on all major occasions (birthdays, Christmas, valentines day, etc). My point is that having a girlfriend anywhere costs money. The only difference is that there are cultural and economic factors behind relationship expenses based on where you are in the world.

In America, I date middle class girls who make enough money to pay their own bills. Chances are our Thai whores came from very poor backgrounds and turned to prostitution out of desperation since it's their only way of making decent money. Gender roles in Thai culture dictates that men helps take financial care of their women. If you are in a relationship with a Thai girl and she asks you for money, it doesn't mean she is a Gold digger who's after your money. It doesn't mean she's using you. It doesn't mean she sees you as a vulnerable sucker. It's just a cultural norm in Thailand for women to seek financial help from men who they've had romantic and or sexual history with. Many board members hear about sin sot or dowry and they don't understand it, so they think someone is getting ripped off. Dowry is a cultural norm all across the world. Maybe a whore isn't worth a large dowry, but that's another discussion. My point is dowry is a cultural norm and not a rip off. Furthermore, one of main reasons why Thai girls turn to prostitution is so that they can help take care of their family. She is going to feel compelled to help take care of her family no matter what. So if you get in a relationship with a Thai girl and you become her main source of income, where do you think she's going to get money to continue helping her family? Thai girls seem to go above and beyond for loved ones. If she loves you, she will probably go above and beyond for you too. Nevertheless, asking for money does not make a Thai girl a bad person.

Relationships are hard regardless of whether it's with a Thai girl, American girl, Brit, etc. Cultural differences make relationships even more difficult, especially if we don't understand each others culture. Differences in educational level add to the difficulty of understanding each other. LONG DISTANCE MAKES IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. Regardless of those difficulties, Thai girls are no different from girls all around the world in that they too dream of settling down with a man who loves and respects her. A man who makes her feel save and secure, both physically and financially. I wholeheartedly believe that Thai women want a long successful relationship just like anyone else, and will do their best to longevity and success.

To conclude, if you have spent considerable time getting to know a girl and her getting to know you. You genuinely care for her and want to be with her. You enjoy not only the sex but all the other experiences that you shared together. You can imagine building a strong Happy future with her. And it absolutely will not be a long distance relationship. Why the fuck not explore the possibilities, as you would with a girl from your country?

I agree that there's nothing wrong with becoming romantically attached to a WG. That there are some good ones out there. But there is some truth (and I'm not ongoing out Thais), but WGs) as a whole tend to have some serious trust issues when it comes to men. They can't hide behind innocence and pretend that her man doesn't go punting. Especially when that's how y'all met. For 2 people to commit and adhere to a longer term monogamous relationship, this poses as an obstacle and challenge. Similarly, you know that this girl is OK with engaging in this industry. Yes, everyone has a past, but what's to prevent her from getting involved again if she wants a few extra bucks? Are you okay with that?

Yes, if you become romantically involved with a girl who frequently gets gangbanged, you're probably asking for trouble. But with civvies, it's a case where they might just want to get it out of their system. Or maybe if you're able to satisfy their needs, they won't run around on you.

The threat of disease is one thing. What would concern me getting involved with a WG, is the same concern with anyone that is interested in fast cash. Making money is great, but fast money comes generally comes from morally grey areas. Prostitution, drugs, scams....Etc... Get-rich-quick schemes. My problem isn't about cleanliness, but about that fast cash mentality.

That being said, I was kind of involved with a KTv girl for a while. Difference was, she wasn't in it for the money, she was in it for the free alcohol. Haha. And, I wasn't looking to settle down at the time, and she was a lot of fun.

~UD

I have met a number of different types of women in this hobby. Innocent, conniving, self-serving, compassionate, money hungry, passionless, intelligent, dumb, rude, professional, and any other descriptor that you can imagine.

I could copy the above and show that I have met all of these exact same types of women in my non-hobby relationships over my life.

Being involved in the sex industry doesn't change the type of person one is on the inside, it normally just normally amplifies an individual's best and worst traits. It goes for the girls and the men.

I could easily spend the rest of my life with a few of the girls I have met inside the hobby. Their history is no more sorted than mine when it comes to the who they've done or the what they did with them. I judge people on one thing and one thing only, how they treat me when I am with them.

I think of Ann from Pattaya. I met her online and we spent a few great days together. I just knew her as a Ann. A lady that had owned a small laundry and had an English boyfriend that got her knocked up and then ran off. She lost the baby and was too broke to keep her business running. It was an all too frequent story. I enjoyed spending time with Ann. She was amazingly funny and had a sharp wit as well. I found myself feeling close to her and when our time together was up, I lamented the fact that we were going to be apart for a long time.

Jump forward a few months and I see a report on a board talking about a new sex club in Patts called Excite. The op posts that it is owned by a lady named Ann. There was a photo in the report and low and behold, there was my special little lady Ann, the owner of the club. WTF?

My lovely, funny, shy, little Ann was a Patts legend. Need a girl that can give you the best BBBJ ever? Ann. Need a tiny little girl that will take it up the ass like a pro? Ann. A gal that can drink you under the table? Ann.

Well, that was a surprise. After the revelation on Ann's past I did some self-evaluation and came to the conclusion of, who gives a shit. When we were together she was awesome. A lovely girl who was fun to be with the entire time. I could not set in any type of judgement.

So I agree with the OP's post. We are all part of this game. We are all equally corrupt in the eyes of the world.

I see Ann every time I am in Patts and I have had a few rounds with her during my visits. She is still the girl I met on my first interaction with her as well as a Patts fucking legend.

Now I'm tempted to take one of Ann's girls (Pat) out of the industry. If I lived in Thailand or if there was an easy way of getting her to the states, I would jump to it.  

UncleDad makes a good point about trust issues that he girls may have. I would go to Excite and Ann would point out the new girls she has. Inquire which ones I haven't tried yet and which ones I'm looking to try. I love it. But at the same time, Pat works there and I'm her regular and she gets obviously jealous when I try other girls at Excite. For example, I intended to spend my last night in Pattaya with Pat. She had a customer when I arrived so I took a different girl. Pat wanted nothing to do with me for the remainder of the night and refused to see me before I leave.

I get back to the states, she call me Line. She misses me, tells me she  thinks I forgot her because I went to the bar and took another lady. I told her she had customer so I took someone else. Said if I don't want her o take care of customers I should tell her. No no no ... that's not what I mean.

Ann got married a few months ago to a German fellow.

Haha! Sounds like my kind of girl

Obe

In a situation (Vege Massage Girl) now for 11 months or so.....long distance as I go to her town 3 times a year.  She never ask for money (fuck she makes good money comparing others), she look more into the excitement.

I stopped by a random massage parlor near my home town in So. Cal. My therapist, lets call her Mary, gave me an excellent massage but without A happy ending. After I got dressed she came back into the room and gave me a tight hug a long kiss on the neck and somehow I knew that more would be on the table if I returned.

My SO and I were split at the time and when Mary asked me if I was married I told her no and I honestly thought I was on that path. Mary is Thai, mid 30's with an average face but one of the most banging bodies I've ever had the pleasure of touching.

I saw her every week for 1-2 hours for the next 5 years. I started to book two hours sessions because otherwise I really didn't get much of a massage. Mary was the most affectionate and giving women I've been with. We never actually had sex but every session included DFK, HJ BBBJ with full on access to her stunning naked body. Oh the sex was available just not at the massage shop, the sex was for he boyfriend and she made it well known that was supposed to be me.

Spend an hour or two every week with someone and you learn a lot about them and I really liked what I was learning. I guess she got tired of waiting for me to take the next step and take her out. Near the end she was really upping the pressure for me to go to Thailand and meet he family so I stopped visiting her.

Needless to say the SO and I got back together, but I never told Mary that fact. I feel like a jerk to this day. Mary deserved the honesty.

Last time I saw her was 5-6 years ago and I still think of her pretty much everyday. If the SO was not in the picture I would, without hesitation sign on for an exclusive with her.

Some may refer to her as a whore but of the two people involved I was the dishonest person. Sometimes as the original poster indicates, we dont know these girls situation and most would look for a different life if they had the opportunity.

may I ask if this was from another forum ?
reason I ask is I don't notice many complaints about Thais in this forum other then the fear of doing a trany without knowing

I'm in such a relationship (though with Filipina)... and have actually chosen to make it even more serious moving forward (living together)..  I love the hell out of her - and vice versa (and have for a very long time now).  I have never been concerned about any "gold-digging" aspect of our relationship.  Our issue is trust..  and learning a new type of it, perhaps.  Or actually.. that maybe it doesn't even need to be an issue.

We are the same, my girl and I...  incredibly similar in our quest for fun and games.  Both sexual as hell.  And we both know it, and we both know each other's pasts.  She enjoyed her bar-girl life way back then... and I enjoyed (still do) playing in that world too.   She is easily jealous of me, and I am easily jealous of her.  With good reason, both ways -- if with think with pure monogamous morals.

This trust issue is hard, day to day.  But the one thought that comes to my mind that eases it is.. "She's (maybe) doing no different then me.".  Do I love her?  Yes, without a doubt.  I am a bad man?  No, I'm not.  She is the same as me.  So.... if what I fear is true.., (she's had a fun party nite with the girls and ended up in someone's bed) is it really so bad?  Maybe not.  Dont ask; Dont tell, perhaps.

I cannot admit that I am fully there at accepting such a thing... but I am getting there... because I HAVE to get there if I want to continue loving her.  It is so easy for her to find a willing man (she's insanely hot, sexy and fun).  Incidently, she thinks of me exactly the same... that I could have any woman in any bar I wanted (not even remotely true, but this is how she sees me).  So I just have to shut down that natural response...  Or it will make me crazy.  And so does she.

Is it worth it to end all we have together, because we stray for some novelty every now and then.  I dont think so... I have been doing exactly this for 25+ years.  

It isnt trust actually... it is accepting that it doesnt have to matter so much.

A different way to look at our relationships.  But healthier, maybe.  More realistic.

EDIT:  Or to add a different way of looking at it:  If I can love her completely (which I do)..., but still fuck around every now and then....  Why would it be okay for me, but not for her?  It is the same.  And we ARE the same.  It's probably one reason why I am so insanely crazy about her.  I get her.. she gets me.  So, I either accept it.. or go mental trying to deny it.

[ Last edited by  wander at 19-3-2017 12:30 ]

If the WG is genuine (and that's a real IF) there's nothing wrong with being in a relationship with her. However like Wander said, trust might always be an issue on both side (more so than with a civvie).

I would highly recommend you to learn Thai and to truly learn and understand Thai culture. No matter how serious the relationship becomes (even married) you will always come after her family, and you will have to provide her and her family.

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