First time at Kama. There was one selection, a very cute, tall, tit-less girl named Emmy (I suppose she could have been saying Amy, but I repeated it several times to make sure). I later heard at least one other girl, but Emmy was the only one I saw. Everything was as previously reported, including the brief upsell, and help getting clothes off. The oil was used fairly quickly after a decent but amateurish massage. She did use oil over all of my legs and back and actually it felt quite nice. I was allowed to feel her legs which were really quite lovely. On the flip she pulled down the top of her red dress and I was allowed access to what passed as breasts! Actually very soft and nice. The fake moans were not over done and she really seemed to be getting into this portion of the event. The HJ was nice with lots of teasing, although i wished it had lasted longer. After the HJ, more oil massage on my chest and arms. After the shower, I noticed that the time was less than 60 minutes. Including the shower it was a grand total of 50 minutes. Overall, the girl was very sweet, she did a nice job with the massage if a bit short, and she was very cute to boot.

So I ask myself, is this worth the 700 hkd vs. the 500 at the former Gigi's at North Point (which I went to yesterday)?  Regardless of where you go you can get a good massage or a crappy massage, depending on the girl. The facilities at Kama are much better of course, then in a place like North Point. It's always fun taking the massage table ride around the small room because it's too small for the girl to go on either side! However, I believe I almost always get a very good massage at a place like North Point, along with a very nice HJ after 90 minutes, and it's 500 hkd with no upsell. For me, the 90 minute massage at North Point with the happy ending is still a far better value.

Yesterday my massage at North Point was with a girl named Adda ("ay-duh") and the massage was quite nice with a good finish. However my favorite is still a Lily. She is an older lady, possibly late 30s, slim but as with most of the ladies in these parts, with almost no breasts. However, as with the Kama Spa, she will often remove her top for access. When she massages LB and in that general region, it is really a true massage of the whole extremity! Ultimately of course, it ends with a happy ending!

I understand why people enjoy the Kama Spa, but for me, there is more value in a place like North Point. Of course, in both places consistency is a must, or we will all say adios.

[ Last edited by  Oldzark at 23-10-2016 16:41 ]

Interesting comparison. I agree that consistency is key, and practically all the reports on Kama stress the predictable high quality of the experience there. I have yet to convince myself it is worth the extra $200, so haven't taken the plunge, but there is something to be said for a no-haggling policy on tips (they're built in, so strictly speaking, "no-tipping" may be a misnomer). Haven't been back to Gigi's old place since she left, but the few times I was there, it was hit and miss, and one girl did push hard for a larger tip.

Meanwhile, I've been lucky with the quality of the sessions I've been having at TST spas for little more than $500 all in, with SYTs in their mid-20s offering varying degrees of access depending on the mutual chemistry. The latest girl (as I recently reported in this section), did make a fuss over the size of the tip, but she was an outlier.

A little clarification that probably might not be necessary: Gigi is no longer related in any way to her old shop in North Point. The entire management has been changed more than twice in the past year, and would probably change again after it was raided by the police last month. My personal take is that the quality of the NP spa has nosedived since Gigi sold it. There are still occasional talents, like Lily, but at the same time there are some comically ugly women there too. The quality is no longer consistently maintained like in the heydays when Gigi was on the helm.

Yikes! Didn't know that. Looking for undocumented or expired visa employees, or something else?

I have only been to Kama so can't compare to other places. Yet, I like Kama because

1. The girls there are above average.
2. They allow full access
3. Some girls (e.g. Carrie) do dfk
4. No tipping or tipping already included. Just pay the $700