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Post at 14-10-2013 11:18  Profile P.M. 
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DATY Question

I don't know if this is in the proper area, so if it is, mods please feel free to move.

I'm not too frequent a monger, probably more when I'm single. But looking back, I realize that I don't think I've ever gotten a girl I date to orgasm. Sure they've gotten wet and there's been cream on their lil sis or on bed, but I don't think I've ever brought them that full blown pleasure. To be honest, I'm probably not great at DATY though I try!
So my question is this - are there any girls/wgs who are willing to help teach someone DATY? I know I've heard about it in the US. Figure while I'm single I might as well practice..

Cheers!

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Post at 14-10-2013 13:14  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 sasa's post

I'm gonna guess that just about any WG would happily teach you the DATY ropes.  Just warm her up a bit then ask nicely.  She'll be into it in no time.
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Reply #1 sasa's post

Here's a tip for you, next time you are down there ask her what feels good some girls will tell you exactly what gets them off.
Also I have found that girls are different down there, what works for one is not the best for another for example my ex was a clitoris only girl to get her off but some girls like the long slow lick from bottom (not the arse as my tongue does not go there ever) to top. Others love their lips sucked and pulled on, tongue pressed hardish on the clit and then roll your tongue around (don't start with this, this is for the end run home I find, plus always be gentle especially at the start) Then there is the licking hard and fast with plenty of penetration (followed by lockjaw and tongue cramps if not something you regularly do.)

The other big tip is don't go diving straight to the treasure spend a good 10 minutes kissing your way around the stomach/thighs and work your way in slowly then the odd light lick/kiss to the pussy (no penetration) then away again then slowly work your way back. Do this multiple times and before you know it she will grabbing your ears and pulling you in.

What I am saying there are many ways to do it and what works on one girl may not be the best for another but never ignore the clitoris as even if she does not come she will still enjoy it .

Maybe I should hold a class on the subject, just bring along your girlfriends so I can demonstrate for you (and show them what they are missing out on) hahaha

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Post at 14-10-2013 16:18  Profile P.M. 
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I bet if you ask 10 WG, at least 5 will say yes, and they will each show you what works for them (which may not be what works for the next one). If nothing else, it should be a lot of fun. Note that you may not be successful in getting a WG to orgasm. Client/server is different from lover/lover. But the WG should still be able to show you what works for her, even if it doesn't work that day.

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Post at 14-10-2013 23:12  Profile P.M. 
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I guess I'm cynical since I tried it on one a while back and as I looked up it was clear she was bored and fake moaning (I dont think she saw me peek) and then like a minute later, bucked her hips as she pretended to cum and then moved on to me (ie. lets finish this guy so I can go on to the next one) - hence why I'm asking if anyone has specific ideas on a certain girl or so?

Thanks everyone for the tips, if you've got any please keep them coming!
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Keep at it

A few comments:

- First of all, practicing is fun, in-and-of-itself, right?  So enjoy the journey.
- many, many gals, even WGs, will be reserved or somewhat uncomfortable discussing exactly which tongue strokes will get her off (especially with a stranger).  And many, many WGs dont WANT to cum during a session as it exhausts them.
- every girl is different.  It;s been mentioned by all above, and this is true.  

But -- the general rules about where to start with a new, unknown, pussy work well.  Go view some DATY video tutorials online.  They all basically say the same things and , in general, it works very very well.  (slow easy build, kisses around the area before on it, long stokes that build, not too long in one area or with one stroke, slowly getting faster and stronger as you go, etc. etc.).  You start this way and pay-attention to how she responds.  Some girls LOVE penetration with your tongue or fingers, some love the tongue but not fingers, and some love being finger-fucked till their head explodes.  Ya gotta learn to read the signs, know when to take it to the next step, AND know when to back off and try something else if she's not responding.

So, if you only have WGs to work with as your tutors I suggest repeating with a few that you get the sense enjoy DTAY while working.  After 2 or 3 visits they will become very comfortable with you and will be MUCH, MUCH more easy-going about talking about what really gets them off, and willing to give you a step-by-step playbook for how to suck them.

Dont be afraid to ask -- but more importantly, ya gotta be able to pay-attention to her responses to become really good at it.  The technique you learned from one gal may not work at all on the next one.  May even turn her off.  But if you pay attention you'll quickly sense it and adjust.
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Post at 15-10-2013 11:31  Profile P.M. 
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Great suggestions above.  Instruction never hurts.

I do a pretty good job of DATY if I do say so myself.   One point I will mention is that you just need to do lots of DATY...repetition after repetition...as long as you're paying attention to the feedback--the skill set is largely self-correcting and self-optimizing I would argue.

Also, for those girls that permit fingering...done properly (hitting the G-spot) in conjunction with DATY will absolutely drive girls over the edge--making you an O-inducing superstar...




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Believe it or not, I learned most of my techniques from reading Literotica, the adult literature website. There are some good How-To tutorials as well a lot of stories of lesbian sex...who else to learn from but from the lesbians.

One of the most important thing to know about daty-ing a girl to orgasm is that it really takes a long time, somewhere from 15-20 minutes from warming her up until she starts twitching a little for quite awhile before shaking before hitting some O's. Some girls who are not so comfortable with someone daty-ing them, may take even longer. And you cannot really rush it as the girl herself has to relax too...so because of the relaxing time that is needed to really get a girl to O, I tend to daty sauna/spa girls where adding additional time is easy and appreciated by the girl, overnight wgs, or girls I knowingly booked for at least 2 hours.

And like Wander said, many wgs don't want to cum during a session because it is exhausting. To overcome that reluctance, try being the wg's last customer for the shift or for some sauna girls, try daty-ing earlier in the session so she can catch a short nap afterwards on the massage table with you before the session ends.

To help you in your quest to master daty, you should also learn all the body signals and changes a female goes through as she gets aroused until orgasm. The signals will help you pace your daty, when to slow down, when to speed up. Not every girl goes through the insane shaking and vise-like gripping of your head with her legs. You will have to learn to look for other signs to verify the girl telling you she just O'd.

One more thing, after achieving success with many girls, once awhile you meet a girl who just doesn't seem to cum via daty even after a very long time daty. Don't despair, some girls are still strangely psychology uptight despite they being in the industry. These girls can eventually learn to enjoy daty, but would you want to invest the time to reprogram her psychologically?

Good luck
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by sasa at 14-10-2013 11:18
are there any girls/wgs who are willing to help teach someone DATY? ...

Great advice here, to add emphasis

1/  be VERY patient - forget the 5-minute pop - girls take a LONG time to blow, and boy will your jaw and tongue be aching before you strike oil

2/  Watch videos, some very good instructional videos out there.  Note, avoid pornos: pornos are posed so you can see the action, a good DATY technique CANNOT be seen by camera or other outside observer!!  Much better to watch a video featuring a dominant older woman and possibly her female partner, that way you know it's authoritative.  

3/  Read "She Comes First" - the somewhat controversial first book published on the subject of DATY.  BTW did anyone else notice how prominently the book features in Transformers Dark Of The Moon??  I seriously wonder what the Director was thinking, putting that front and centre in the script, and can only believe he never actually read it!!!  Absolutely not a book to be promoted to a teenage audience!!  Hilarious

4/  Pay very close attention to her movements - she WILL get into it.  Her voice can lie but her body won't.  As she warms up and starts to move, respond and give her whatever her hips are reaching for.  Best advice from the book "She comes first" is: when she starts to respond, keep on doing whatever it was you were doing just then.  Whatever you do don't change to a different technique or stroke when she responds, since that will interrupt her flow!!  

How's your Chinese?  You could try Vivian:-
http://sex141.com/en/2843-Sham%2 ... e%20-%20Vivian.html

She certainly loves being eaten, and would probably give an unrushed lesson if asked




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