Subject: How do you answer that awkward question?
mc11091989
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How do you answer that awkward question?

Don't know if anyone posted this question. But say you are out with a bunch of friends who are not the boys. If a girl asks that question ("have you ever visited a prostitutekids?") , how would you respond??
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Reply #1 mc11091989's post

"Who? Me????". To be said with great indignation and surprise of course.
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Post at 3-9-2013 02:45  Profile P.M. 
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To get past people's bullshit meters, you usually have to tell a half-lie or something completely ridiculous and out of left field...
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I says say this,  every woman I have been with had a price.  Some I paid for in cash and some were paid for in years off of my life.

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Post at 3-9-2013 09:35  Profile P.M. 
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Hang on, what do you mean by 'prostitute kids'? Or was that a typo?

I was contemplating just answering 'Am I?' to the post but that may yield a 'no one liner slap'.

A few years back there was a british or American game show about the participant being hooked up to a lie detector and asked the most personal questions. If he passes all, he would get loads of money. Needless to say, it usually degenerates to 'have you ever had an affair', or 'did you cheat on your girlfriend', etc. It was ugly. Quite a few shows you could see the spouse (both sexes), gf/bf storm away when the contestant hesitates or fail the lie detector. The ramifications of the show extends beyond the studio. When I watched it with my ex-wife, she suddenly looked at me and asked, "have you cheated on me"? To which I replied with all the years of POW training, "NO, have you?". The conversation continued and I told her, this is stupid, don't ask questions that you might not like the answers to. She was puzzled and of course upset but there was no fall  out from there.

Sometimes the best defense is an offence. Ask the question back, throw them out of balance. I've been on the receiving end of lies as well. Gfs, lied, covered the fact that other men were involved, etc. Unfortunately I learnt from experience.

The number one rule is DENY at all cost, if they can't prove it, it is just a suspicion. Only your own guilt can give yourself away.
Next, fight back. Say how ridiculous it is to suspect you and you are utterly hurt by the distrust and accusation. Walk away or dump the gf for a while, she'll be sorry and reconcile.

Hang on, the NUMBER ONE rule is DESTROY ALL EVIDENCE!!! Don't keep stuff for 'trophies' or memories. Somehow, somewhere,  sometime, these will emerge and nip you in the butt. I am a repeat offender of this. My #2 gf contacted me after almost 20 years. Then started to rekindle the flame. Texted me some raunchy texts and I kept it, only to be seen by a current gf.... Next, during a recent separation with my fiancee for about 8 months, I had my own romps and took some photos of a few nice encounters. I deleted them but left them in the 'recycle bin' on my desktop. She didn't look at them until we were looking at some old porn and then I 'undeleted' one of the deleted porn. Suddenly she started to scroll through the recycle bin and I was caught....

So..... make sure you clean up your sh!t. Remember, there are undelete software out there both for computers and phones. There are stealth tracking software that she can install on your phone. Taking photos can have metainfo that link you to the location. emails sent from anywhere has IP  address to pin you (e.g. SZ compared to HK).

Off topic... now back to yours!

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gwailoplayer   3-9-2013 20:13  Acceptance  +2   "Only your own guilt can give yourself away. " - good advice
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Reply #5 stanley11's post

yup

and SMS is stored by your phone provider for 7 years

and can be retrieved by subpoena

or maybe even viewed online  

long after you deleted the suspicious text




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Reply #1 mc11091989's post

I can't imagine a group of girls asking unless they are kidding about. If they are serious and ganging up on you (safety in numbers), then:
1. you have probably been busted and are screwed regardless of what you say (eg you were caught leaving a pink lit walkup that houses only prostitutes),
2. they suspect you have done it  but are not entirely sure (eg you left foremost building which has prostitutes and a legit restaurant) OR
2. one of the girls has been cheated on and confirming that we are all pricks.

In this instance, they expect flat out denial. About (1), you are screwed anyway, but you don't know that for certain until you have been presented with evidence that shows absolute guilt. If they know for certain, never say yes and avoid flat out denial since they expect that anyway and know if you are lying.  Initially, give them something they do not expect and try to make them feel uncomfortable in asking.

Girl: "have you seen a prostitute?"
You: "do you think I have seen a prostitute? If you know me well enough, you should know the answer to that already."




Girl: "we saw you leave a brothel."
You: "all of you? Or just one?"

Girl: all of us...
You: then you must have made up your mind before asking.

Or

Girl: just one of us...
You: then it is her word versus mine... if you think i have done it, then there is not much more I can say, except how disappointed I am in being accused.


If they suspect or are confirming that we are all pricks, I suggest  still starting off with the same response (ie do you think ....?)
If they persist to get an answer, then they suspect sth or are just shifting guilt to you for the guy's sins. I would just hold my ground and say sth like "have you? you ask me a silly question so i also ask you" and then just cross my arms.

If they are joking and not actually pointing the finger, I would respond in the same way. If you get defensive, you have dug your own grave. They joke with a potentially offensive question, I will do the same.
An example:
A: Why do you ask? Are you looking to earn extra money?
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I would think that for me, and many others I guess, it depends upon your relation with the girl. If the girl is a really casual friend even a fuck buddy then I would say yes. Consider a girl from Work/church where you feel moral obligation to your answers, would probably say no. If its a girl you plan to make your wife or your current wife ... I would avoid answering and totally change the topic.
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Play it off like you're in on the joke (even if they're asking you for real). For example, say hell yes really casually and that you prefer to combine your WG adventures with your cocaine and vicodin addiction. Or if you're with a male buddy, look at him accusingly and say "what the hell bro I thought this was supposed to be between us??"
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Reply #9 poonhits4jesus's post

I answered sorta like ur suggestion ! But let the conversation fade as the subject changed. But regardless, the males in that crowd last night all knew lolllll... One had gone with me lolllllll
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I actually have extensive background in interviewing/interrogation and wanted to add a few points to the discussion.

1. When confronted with evidence of a wrongdoing the guilty person will react the harshest to the accusation.  This should be remembered when you attempt to turn the question on the person that is asking you about your actions.  From an interrogation standpoint, if a person repeats a question back to me I have just clearly asked of them, they are guilty of the offense.  It is a standard delay/evasion tactic of the guilty.

2. Over time, a guilty person's resolve will fade while that of the innocent person will grow.  If you start calm and stay calm and direct in your responses. You will minimize your perception of guilt.

3. If you are being questioned about this type of activity by an SO, there is a high likely hood that you have done something to drive this questioning.  Keep your answers short and simple.  
     - I'm not sure what you are referring to.
     - Please tell me what you are trying to find out.
     - I can't answer you if I don't understand what you are asking.

There is no right answer in these situations.  The best advice is to never over react to the questions, limit your responses, ask for more details.  More details will often allow you to pinpoint the information that has generated the original questioning and may provide you with an opportunity to address/explain away the concerning information/evidence.

To the issue of text messages.  In the US there is only one carrier that maintains SMS/MMS longer than 48 hours.  All other carriers have the ability to capture these messages at the time they are sent or received but this requires a very high probable standard and is exclusively used for criminal prosecution/investigation.  There is no civil availability to capture live messaging/conversation in the US by going to the carrier.

Your device is much higher risk to you in relation to SMS/MMS than the carrier maintained data.  Numbers called, duration, and caller location are the data points that are actively kept by carries for numerous years.  This is due to their billing systems and governmental requirements.*

* Only applicable to the US carriers.  I have no knowledge outside the US on these issues.

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Post at 3-9-2013 23:31  Profile P.M. 
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I'd reply saying

"there is no response I can give to this question,
because if I say no I haven't, you will likely not believe me.
If I say maybe, then you will assume yes I have seen prostitute,
if I say yes then I'm already guilty.
So this question has no right answer I can give because in all cases I end up being guilty to some degree."
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Sarcasm/joking usually does the trick.

e.g.

"Yes, but I'm not paying your mother again for that horrible service.. but your dad was worth it."
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Yes, my doctor prescribed me and the insurance company has paid this.
10 times I was ordered to treatment, and that was terrible.
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Am french...
It already happened to me and my answer was say "yeah of course who hasnt?!" With a huge grin...
Then people thought I was full of s... And moved on laughing about how stupid I am saying that.

Yes, thats nasty and very risky but as I said, I already did it and it works. Actually with a couple of fellow punters we usually send out those jokes about "how was your punting yesterday" in front of everyone and it works... You gotta love to gamble though!
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Post at 4-9-2013 20:26  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 mc11091989's post

"Why? Are you offering your services?"
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Post at 10-9-2013 09:09  Profile P.M. 
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always Deny

You must seperate your mongering life from your regular work-family life.  They are not compatible.

Deny, deny, deny.  They will believe what they want to believe, but they will KNOW only what you admit or confirm.  It is never a good thing for your punting activities to become known in your circle.  One casual question can turn into much speculation and doubt that will follow you forever after.  

Just answer the same way you answer your kids when they ask if you ever smoked pot -- no, of course not!  Wasn't something my circle did!  Elaborate no further.

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