And if you have, what do you say?
So here is the situation: I decide to pop into Escape in Wan Chai on a random week night just to check out the action. While looking, I make eye contact with a work colleague who is there doing exactly the same thing. We pretend not to see each other. I make a quick exit and go home thinking that next morning my reputation at work will be tarnished, etc.
I still occasionally pop into these places but spend 50% of my time scanning the place to see if anybody I know may be there too. So half my time is spent looking at the guys!
So, any of you guys been in same situation? What's the reaction and any good excuses?

Nope, i dont punt so often and wen i do, i try to becarful, getting seen from someone u know is almost as bad as getting caught by ur so but u still have a chance they wont say anything and maybe fearful that u saw them as well and affect their reputation even if they r single

One of the buildings I used to go to several years ago in MK. I passed by once  a few years ago and decided to have a look around between the 2nd and 4th floors as I used to do.  Going up one floor from the fire exit I spot someone from my building coming down. As we passed each other right at the fire escape door we both made an effort to look away. Him looking to the side and me looking down.  I immediately left the building.

I don't understand. The guy who saw you was doing the exact same thing. He's not going to tell anyone otherwise he implicates himself. So, how does this tarnish your reputation?

Expect it.  if you saw a solo-guy from work there then don't worry about it.  He's doing the same thing.

what freaks me out is when some mate or co-worker I know brings his SO into Wanhcai!  I want to beat that guy!  He's playing all innocent and nice while his wife watches the carnal activities - occassionally recognizing someone they shouldn't have.

We had a mutual agreement amongs all my mates -- we never brought our spouse to Wanchai (even Mes Amis or Spicy Fingers.., but if we HAD to we warned the others that nite.  "Hey mate, wifey and I will be in-and-around Mes Amis Thursday nite.  Run, Forest, Run!!!".

As if he has more reputation to protect than the others, huh!!.

No biggie at all, that person is doing exactly what you are doing. No big deal.
In Hong Kong, everybody knows you are mongering one way or another. It;s so common.
It is just the code of silence and we dont talk about it openly.


When I read the title I thought the OP was referring to our activity been exposed to GF/Wife.
That;s a total different story.

Believe it or not, not every guy who goes to Escape is looking for a wg.

1) He could be there because his buddies are in town and want someone to show them Escape and Wanchai, so he obiliged as a great host should.
2) He went there for the great Thai food for dinner and stayed to enjoy additional drinks. I have done this and it is funny to be shooing away the girls so I could enjoy my meal.
3) He went there to listen to the live band. Practically every place with live band in HK also has a big contingent of wgs. Don't know why it is so but is true for the most part.

4) Ok, he went there to check out the wgs and is probably alone which leads to the conclusion that you should have approached him and offered him a drink. It is so hard to find a buddy to monger with as you don't know whom you can trust and will not judge you as sicko perv. The fact he is at Escape saves you a lot of work and you still have a chance to capitalize on it by chatting with him at work.

Believe me if he was there and you were there at Escape, both of you are protected by MAD (mutually assured destruction) should any word from either one of you gets out.

Yep, no risk. Happened to me a couple of times and really I dont care (and am quite paranoid on this). to be on the safe side, I even tell my SO that I bring some of my clients / colleagues from Europe there coz they want to see. Its a risky strategy, but for now it works (and I do bring those guys there once in a while with the rule of NEVER going out with a girl as they are not close friends). So even if I get busted by an idiot who cant stfu, I still have an alibi.

You re protected by the brocode (I know, theres no such thing!! ;) )! And if he is an idopiot and tries anything you got your own wmd! Its called dissuasion...

One of the few times I did visit one of the more famous P4P joints in Wan Chai I did see several people I know from the "business community" in which I operate There are Gwailos of course. The place was so crowded I don't think they saw me Given my role and reputation and also that a lot of these folks do know my SO either directly or through their wives, being seen there would be death if they would not abide by the theoretical Brocode as described above. What would've kept them discreet is MAD.

In any event, after that and coupled with my general interest in the PRC product  rather than SE Asia product, I confine myself to some of the more popular brothels and 141s which would be considered "two local" for some of these people (Gwailos for the most part only think of Wanchai when thinking about P4P ) and I would never have any chance of running into them. Now there are of course local employees I work with in my office, they are young and single and it is much more likely that I would run into them.  They know my SO as well, otherwise known as the "boss' wife".  in this case there is no Brocode but there is something even better, the Hong Kong legal systems employer employee relationship of which we are both subject to.

Keep on mongering

Homg Kong is so small that I'm actually surprised it does not happen more often. Getting 'caught' alone is bad in more ways than one. First you are considered a perv, second , you are considered a 'billy no mates' - I recall a time once in Neptune, someone Iknew spotted me (he was with people). He asked me who I was with. I made up a story about being there with my friends from out of town who wanted to visit this institution. Then I said, 'not sure where they are right now, must have got a girl and left. Oh well, I better be off then'. I think it was obvious that I was alone!

I prefer mongering solo. Not sure why that is. If abroad I may seek the assistance of a local cab driver (for a fee) to show me good places, etc and I get them to come into the bar and drink with me, etc.

My gf knows all about Wan Chai but at the same time she knows that when I'm in HK, I like Wan Chai and Lan Kwai Fong because I can use English which is what I'm more comfortable with. The pubs and restaurants in these areas also allow me to have non-Chinese food, though I find their prices to be a rip off.

If I ever met a co-worker (and this has happened to me once) at a walkup or P4P pickup bar, I have two choices: A.) Quietly sneak away and hope that he didn't see me; or B.) Go up and talk to the guy, share some stories and have a new buddy to hit the bars with so I won't have to go alone. Having a buddy with you also gives you more excuses in case you get caught by the SO or the SO's friends.

But I prefer mongering solo mostly because then I'm not waiting on anyone else's schedule.

But I thought you are that guy who organise and partake in the "groupie" bukakkee / gang bang, no?
So,it is OK to let your cock fights other cocks in a hotel room but it is Not OK to bump into friends in Fuji building?

I am confuse with the meaning of SOLO.

Good question. Strangers is different. There is no way that i would partake in a fantasy with anybody that i know. In my view, Mongering is an act that we perform as a 'different' person, I'm pretty sure with a different name as well. For example, I have a mongering name, mongering phone number, even a mongering wallet. There was a time when I had a mongering bank account (obviously that was in my real name).
Sometimes I used to wonder: which one is the real me?!

Yes I was caught recently. I was at a conference held at the Renaissance Hotel a month or so ago. We had an off site dinner then were dropped off at the hotel
around 9ish. I was with a group of about 8 people from my industry and we decided to go to the Old China Hand for drinks. I took off around 11ish and headed to Amazonia
for a punt and one of the blokes I'd been with and had been trying to get some business from showed up a little while later.

I wasn't sure if he was punting or not but I was already with a Filipina so it was a bit late for me. We ended up taking my girl and her friend to Neptunes and I was hoping he
would score with her friend. He kept asking me if I was going to fuck the one I was with which of course the answer was a resounding yes. He never did do the deed with thefriend, or any other WG and since then haven't heard from him (I did email him). So, no business for me and I just hope he keeps his mouth shut about my mongering exploits.

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You are nuts to be scouting for chicks less than 1 block away from where your industry mates were having drinks. Anytime I find myself drinking/eating in another city or a busy district, I like to walk around the immediate area to sightsee. I am a damn curious person and as part of that curiosity I will walk into interesting establishments.

So if I find myself in the same situation with industry people as you were enjoying drinks in the Old China Hand in the middle of my favourite hunting grounds, I have three choices:

One is admit that I won't be picking up girls in the area that night and will have to go somewhere else far (at least 10 mins taxi ride).

Second is if it was my last night here, then I would head back to hotel, get changed, and wait at least 2 hours (by then everyone would have left area for hotel) before heading back.

Third is if it was a potential business bonding, I would stay to the bitter end with the industry people, and suggest going to look for a place with a live band. Hopefully you pick a live band bar that doesn't have wgs that recognize you. If the vibes are right, the blokes like the place and will thank you (more business) for taking them to a fun place.


Of course now you know this and you suffered an additional setback that will remind you of your impatient to get a girl. You lost a potential deal and even if the guy was willing to buy from you, he would expect some significant discounting from you.

Indeed, when I was with my ex SO in Hong Kong she used to love going to Wan Chai to watch the live bands.

Was I nervous at the time? Of course!

But I did not go with girls out of the bars at the time, yes I went to the bars but I did not pay for any of the girls out of them. I tended to do walk ups back then.

I used to send my buddies a message informing them that I would be there with her so be careful, I'd message them what bars we were in, when we were leaving etc...

Came close one time to getting caught by a friends gf who was looking for him in Wan Chai. Luckily (VERY LUCKILY!!) we were between bars.

This is a really great idea, and to add on to it you should "rehearse and role play" this in your mind, that way if you do end up running into somone and end up in a conversation with them, it gonna sound more truthful.    Even for 141 visits, even though most of the buildings are a bit dodgey, there ARE people who do live in them /  other businesses that operate in them.  So you can say that you asked a shop nearby where there was a toilet and they pointed you here... but you must have misunderstood.  Sounds lame, but at least it's "plausable".

EdgE

Yep, nuts, horny and pretty drunk. Had been out since 5.30 and had been in HK for 3 days without making it to Wan Chai so couldn't wait any longer. They looked like they
were all going home so didn't want to be in the position of making excuses for why I wouldn't be going back in the same direction. Sure, could have doubled back but it had
already been a long night. Going back to TST where I was staying would have been the best bet. Oh well, you live and learn. If it's any consolation, I met a really lovely girl
that night that I'm still very much in touch with.

a bit late but I had some kind of similar experience. I live in Wanchai so sometimes I go out around there. I think two or three times I was walking with friends in Wanchai and one of the WG recognized me.... thanksfully they spotted I was with friends and didn't say anything