This is my first post here, although I've been reading here for a
while. I'm just finishing up a messy divorce, and have got it in my
head to go mongering. But I can't shake my concern about STDs. I know,
condoms are really the way to go, but they do break sometimes. And
frankly I'm not to be 100% trusted to use them if I've been drinking.

So here's my question; has anyone tried one of these at home test kits
with the girls? They even have oral HIV tests and even urine based HIV
tests now. I'm looking now at http://std-test-kits.com . Anyone ever
tried to get the girls to get tested in their room with something like
this?

u r gonna be banging a whore
who has banged many other dudes before u get to her
they may or may not have an std, thats the risk u take when u monger
if u are that concerned then dont monger

Please do not spam this forum by repeating this same question again !

Please consult your doctor or whatever STD clinics you have in your country if you have concerns regarding STD !

Jsmith - Why do you need to post an aggressive comment like that? It helps no one

Richard firstly as far as I am aware the home tests for HIV still have to be sent back to a lab for results so you may have to wait for results, also I think I'm right in saying that it will only detect certain types of hiv and not all.  If you take the girl to a clinic with you can get blood results back within hours and is far more thourough.

However big thing with both the above tests as that there is a period of 1 to 4 months were you can have hiv but it will not show up in a test and during this period you can still transmit the disease.

Safest thing to do is wear a condom then you are far better protected.

Just out of interest if you can't be trusted to use a condom when you are drunk, how are you to be trusted using the home testing kit on the girlwhen drunk?

[ Last edited by  WWHK at 24-4-2012 17:05 ]

I think everyone has the same paranoia's sometime but a few things will always be true;

1) You're having sex with a women who has sex with many other men
2) You can't tell just by looking at someone if they have something
3) Some things you can treat, some are with you for life

and

4) The ladies are sometimes so sexy that the risk is worth it

There is always a risk but you can reduce that risk by being safe, using protection and keeping yourself educated. BUT the risk is still there. If you don't like the risk, don't gamble.

Aggressive comment???
What aggressive comment?
All I read is jsmithj88 laying it out as it is!

Plus as per our Mod TwiceAweek's reply - we are a mongering forum and NOT Medically qualified to  give such medical advise/OP should ask his own Doctor.  That plus the fact that the OP was spamming the forum by putting up the same identical post in FOUR separate threads.

Come to think of it - your statement first off the bat
"....Jsmith - Why do you need to post an aggressive comment like that? It helps no one...."
Rather aggressive yourself aintcha?

SEAJ

Here. I'll be aggressive. There is absolutely no way to be sure of not getting a STD if you are having sex. There are a hundred sites that cover this in detail. Google them. Go talk to a doctor. They will all tell you the same thing:
- if you have any kind of sex, with or without condom, it is a risk
- if you have sex with WGs, the risk is higher
- if you use a condom for FS, it is lower. CBJ is lower still
- HIV can live in a body undetected for months. Testing a WG would not be conclusive.

There are no magical fairies that are gonna make that better. You can ask and ask and searching and search, but it's always gonna be true.

M suggestion: if it bugs you that much, don't punt. The stress of the worry will not be worth the joy you find mongering.

Sorry dude, that's life.

Wow!  This is really an all "black-or-white" crowd today!

Managing risk in your life is rarely an all-or-nothing thing.  For example: driving is mortally dangerous.  Is the solution to never get in a car?  Of course not, only the most neurotic among us would think that.  Rather, we wear seat belts, buy cars with air bags, etc.

Same decision when punting.  The risk cannot be reduced to zero (unless you count jacking yourself off from across the room   ) but we can manage it to whatever level we're comfortable with.  So you do or don't wear a condom, you do or don't let the girl give you a BBBJ or DFK, you do or don't DATY, etc.  Maybe you don't even punt simply because you know you can't trust yourself to put on a rubber.

A testing regime is also a reasonable addition to include.  If you believe that safe hobbying is about: 1. not catching anything, and 2. not GIVING anything, then certainly testing is important.  If you also want to use testing to reduce your own risk of catching disease, then you can research the home and instant tests as well as the local clinics (search for Irishdog's posts on the subject, he states some experience in taking girls to the clinic at the start of a weeklong frolic . . . interesting first date, no? )

I remember seeing a 20 minute cheek swab test on the market in Singapore a couple of years ago.  I won't comment on its efficacy, research it and talk to an STD pro.  A "mail-it-in" test doesn't sound like it will fit your purposes.

And, lastly, I find it helps my decision making process to put some numbers on the risks.  We all fall into the bad habit of not doing this and this leads to the "all or nothing" kind of discussion which is not helpful.  For instance, in the U.S. the prevalence of HIV infection is 0.5% (estimated) of the total population (300mm), what does this mean in terms of prevalence for working girls and sexually active adults (a subset of the total population), and how many partners must a WG (or you) see before you statistically likely to bump into an HIV+ partner?  What are the estimated rates of transmission?  All of this, I find useful for thinking about managing the risk in this hobby.  Others may disagree, but do what works for you.

Mate

I suggest you either resolve to wear condoms when punting and accept that some STDs can be acquired regardless.

Or, start a long and enjpyable relationship with your hand from which are are hardly likely to get any STDs at all. NOT the best choice but i've learned, nothing is more precious than peace of mind.

Richard, Sorry to say! No matter if its a WG or GF. No one will ever know the true answer if they are meant to hide it from you. A WG could even be more safer than GF coz they have  protection from everyone that bangs them. A GF could only have had as little as a few partners, then don't use protection at all.

Theres your answer!

talk to your doctor about your concern. none of us here are qualified to give professional advise.

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