Subject: Kam Bong Gals Charging HK$600!
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Post at 4-3-2012 11:26  Profile P.M. 
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Kam Bong Gals Charging HK$600!

Check it out, there are now 7 gals in KB in Sheung Wan charging $600 for walk up service.
http://sex141.com/en/region-17-b ... e-hk-sex-girls.html

Now I don't begrudge them whatever they can get but the pricing seems unique to this locale. I've certainly paid 500+100 tip any number of times but the market is getting a bit rich, kinda like demanding the tip up front before I test the service out.

Some of these gals are getting rave reviews [Angel, Miss HK, Abbey] but at least one other [Tina] may be worth half that, IMHO.
Even the legendary KiKi in SKM only charges 480 for arguably the best service in all of HK [subjective analysis I know.]

Just sayin'
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Post at 4-3-2012 11:54  Profile P.M. 
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Given how popular KB gets during popular hours, I guess I'm not surprised. Lets just hope those girls make less money over time and the price comes back down.
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Post at 5-3-2012 10:01  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 PVGoober's post

actually I agree with your comments

I've been surprised by the level of enthusiasm for the KB girls, with relative silence about the girls in Bonham Strand.  

... I put it down to KB being a few minutes' walk closer to IFC / Exchange square ... and hope it's not an example of shilling for favours ... Now, if someone wants to sponsor a "Which?" report, I'd be willing to calendar some research when I have an opening in my demanding schedule

Then again, good luck to the girls if they can build an enthusiastic following




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Post at 5-3-2012 10:48  Profile P.M. 
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Only slightly cheaper than HG's

At that price, these gals are pricing themselves close to the HG's!

Usually/in the past, the attraction of the WG's had been the quite large differential especially when expressed in percentage terms - but one or two hundred difference is too small - and I'm thinking/noticing that I now see that the HG's are also being priced a bit more.

Inflation!!  Sigh...

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Reply #1 PVGoober's post

I think the problem might be the website. If the girls can go online and see what others are charging, then they start to think, "I need to raise my rates too"- sorta like properties in a neighborhood.

I am sure some are worth $600 (actually, I have an appointment to sample one today), but not all of them. Remember, spending $800 on a HG doesn't guarantee that value, you can end up with a complete dud.

I do understand the comparison between other well-known/highly rated WGs that are under $500, but we'll see how things shake out with the new SKM policy.

As for the overpriced, girls in Kam Bong, once word spreads that they are overpriced, maybe they will have to drop their rates.

One other point, is as good reports come out from lower-priced girls, those areas become more popular. Just look at what has happened to Elec Rd.

Hope to have a great report up later today.

[ Last edited by  ramont at 5-3-2012 12:02 ]
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Post at 5-3-2012 12:50  Profile P.M. 
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It also seems like the higher end "Japanese" girls are going up as well.  Maybe it's just me, but it seems like it.

Hope were not getting price creep.  Walk ups go up and the higher ends go up, then the next thing you know the Hotel Girls will start thinking their too cheap.  And adjust in the gap.

Inflation baby, and its insidious creep!



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Post at 5-3-2012 13:06  Profile P.M. 
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Originally posted by ramont at 5-3-2012 12:01
I think the problem might be the website.  ...

Actually I have a conspiracy theory to offer: I'm convinced they are being managed and orchestrated by a strong-handed marketing genius from behind the scenes.

The whole premium pricing thing started in KB about 18 months ago.  

Up until then, they were average girls at average prices, mostly older and more experienced ladies.  And the building was far from full, with around 5-8 girls on the DB at any time.  

Then I noticed some new additions, a couple of departures, and at the same time all the girls all set their prices at $500.  
... that's exactly the sort of market behaviour that would have an anti-trust investigator buying a bottle of champagne to celebrate (in an anti-trust environment that is) ... clearly it wasn't an accident.  Market price for walkups is $380, period.  A 30% markup is a lot to account for on the basis of service alone.  It smelled just like a cartel had been formed, with an increased minimum price being set for the building.  

In many way's I'm intrigued and impressed that the move worked - I have to admit that KB now has the image of being a premium destination, and at same time has attracted a lot of new traffic and a lot of active reporters.  There's a virtuous circle where the reports attract more punters, some of whom write more reports, and the pricing is seen as being justified.  Over the space of about 9 months more girls moved in, showing up on the DB, and the premium pricing was maintained.  

What is interesting about the situation is that the new pricing does NOT seem to have come about as a result of an influx of new talent injected into the HK talent pool,
nor do I see any significant evidence of the SOP being any different from other girls in other locations that would justify differential pricing.  
Yes of course I acknowledge that some of the girls give better service, better GFE, etc, but I'm not seeing reports saying "wow, I used to love HGs at $800 but from now on I'm going to KB" ... furthermore, as the story has unfolded I've seen a large number of comments about many of the girls that they are veterans in HK ... so much so that "girl" is probably stretching it ...
It's too much of a stretch for me to believe a lady who's been in the business for 3-5 years and is changing locations yet again would all of a sudden change her performance overnight to be so much better than she was before!!

I'd be very interested to see any evidence (or reports from more knowledgeable reports) on whether service in the building as a whole is better than that in other larger buildings in HK.  Or is it just that a larger nest will - simply by random chance - have a few more engaged and committed top performers in it, thereby elevating the image of the whole address?  

I'm posting this as an invitation to challenge my paranoia, preferably by sharing observations and experience, not just by sharing opinions.  

Moral of this tale?  Yes, there is a moral, and here it is:-

REPORTING WORKS IN YOUR INTERESTS

If you know a nice place, and hide it selfishly, you are hurting your own interests.  

You can depend on it that someone will orchestrate a promotion, making a place popular just because it is seeing a lot of reports, attracting more punters, and thereby generating more reports.  
And along with the punters, the money walks too ... not to the place you love and are hiding, but to the place that is getting all the attention ...
And we know what happens when the money walks: the top producers also walk, because they need to make the best living they can.  

The best "thank you" you can give when you get good service, is to share it.  

Of course, if you're concerned about maybe losing out, because the service you got is so very much an outlier and your report is going to be so very complimentary, share it but not with everyone: put an RA on it, so fewer of the members get access.  [Flamesuit On!]  Doing this reinforces the value of reporting even more ... and assures that those who do the most of the work get the best rewards ... everyone wins.  

And - yes - if  you're the guy that makes a place popular as a result of you sharing your favourite provider, your favourite provider will notice (even if you don't brag about it), and she will also make sure you don't lose out from your openness.




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Post at 5-3-2012 18:51  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #7 DArtagnan's post

Interesting take and probably some- if not a lot- of truth to it. I remember in August of 2010, one of my faves has moved temporarily from SKM to KBB, to which I wrote she was "slumming it in Kam Bong". I remember distinctly that she didn't like it there and couldn't wait to get back to SKM. I think she also mentioned there had been some attacks on the girls in KBB, so she didn't feel as safe. Also, the room wasn't as nice.

Of course, today I went to KBB to see Angel: REPORT
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Reply #7 DArtagnan's post

Interesting observation.
Somebody should go ask the the WG in that building and get a defiinite answer. Mystery solved.

Usually, they tell u this: REntal increase!!!

Fucking Same shit happened in Coronet Court.
Fucking pimps increase the price from 350 to 380.
Usually u have the exact change for 350.
When u are charged 380, tendency is we will take out 4 red notes and they will assume the $20 balance as tips.
Effectively, it is a $50 increase.

But then, I didnt notice the gals are better, younger, hotter or "inkier"!!!.
In fact, the other way round, the gals now in Coronet are much older, Milfy, punctured tits, shaggy, worn out!!!!
Rental increase; again maybe.
Influx of punters turining the place into a Zoo: maybe.

But based on my observation; seems that the current price increase is in direct correleration with the age of the WG........booooooo
(non economic, just a punter's dissatifaction POV)
I got a problem now paying 350 to 400 for an old hag....... for $600, that;s  cutthroat Highlanders!!!!!!!

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I expect they're just following the standard laws of supply and demand ... the supply (of poon) at KB  to be fixed, but the demand continually increases, so they're adjusting their price to the point where the demand drops to a more reasonable level, but they're asking more to compensate for the limited supply.

But like people say, these girls, while some look good, others look kinda ordinary in their pics, and their reports are pretty good, but nothing to justify a price increase, so I expect when they see their demand drop, their prices will drop as quickly as their panties at the sound of a customer

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by throwawayay at 7-3-2012 17:07
the supply (of poon) at KB  to be fixed, but the demand continually increases  ...

and that's the point where I have to disagree

nice theory, Adam Throwawayay Smith, but when the theory doesn't fit the observed facts, it's the theory that's wrong, not the facts

Fact is that throughout the period of increasing prices, the number of girls in KB has also been increasing: ergo it cannot be supply and demand
Fact is also that the great majority of the girls are seasoned pros in the HK market: ergo the demand for their services at their individual price/performance point is already well established

What they are actually doing is branding.

Like the story of the shop selling ties at $8, which didn't sell any of them, then raises the price to $12, suddenly they sell out.  
I've seen it first hand, many times, both in business and at home ...

They're playing a game: the game of price-perception of quality.  Translated, that means most people THINK they are better, because they are more expensive.  Translated, that means they are playing YOU! ... and they're laughing all the way to the bank ...




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Post at 8-3-2012 13:45  Profile P.M. 
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All will tell you that its due to rent increase.
However some WG I have spoken with will increase price if they want to serve less clients when they find a guy to support them with a steady income flow.

I have heard WG will be isolated and forced to move away if they undercut the usual price in the building.
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Reply #9 hunter's post

I asked Angel (1F) why, and if it was wise (might turn some away). She said their rent had been increased because of the renovations in Kam Bong, she was following the lead of the other girls in her corridor (seems to be a collective pressure to follow suit), but she was happy to have fewer, "nicer" (her word) customers.

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Reply #13 cass's post

This is true - according to the girls there, KB building rooms are among the most expensive in all of HK
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Reply #13 cass's post

The effects from recession and inflations...economics affects everything with a cost around all of us. Food, house, transports, daily items...even punting price.




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Reply #11 DArtagnan's post

I agree about the perception of better service because of higher price. I find myself falling for it at times. I've now checked out 3 of the non famous gals and the price increase is not warrented IMHO.

10 gals now at 600 and counting.

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Have you guys checked out Flora?  She's the first door on your left on the first floor, I've had amazing experiences with her - she's very friendly and real with me, and the service is always great.  she's a local hk girl and we often get talking about her life and her money grabbing mom.  she never tries to overcharge me, and she's always priced reasonably.
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Reply #17 xusic's post

So, you fancy this flora, do ya? It's not all that obvious from your post, or that in HK report.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by Thai-delight at 10-3-2012 22:35
So, you fancy this flora, do ya? It's not all that obvious from your post, or that in HK report.

how on earth did you draw that conclusion??  ;)

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