Subject: Mainland Chinese Televsion: Hongkonger are dogs
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Reply #20 kaiiyu's post

Look-it - I KNOW the N word has been discussed ad-finitum by various commentators and parties and whilst there's not been 100% consensus if such word is racist or not, whether its liberal use by the Afro-American community themselves supposedly now renders it inoffensive, I personally will NOT use it as I don't need to try to establish my " Street Cred" OR  whatever it is that ANYBODY who uses such tries to establish.

Tell me - do YOU use it?  Just like your liberal use of other racist epithets? And if so - WHY??
Do you really find it a compunction to do so? For WHAT??!

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Originally posted by kaiiyu at 26-1-2012 02:27
Calm down SEAJ, I won't use racist slurs here.

Can I ask a question to you SEAJ, and this isn't an attack just a personal opinion of yours. Do you find the word nigga or nigger racist? I only ask be ...

Man...  

Dude, why not test it yourself instead of asking SEAj?  Go to Detroit and try using this word down in the 'hood.  Methinks you'll learn rather quickly how our black-skinned Bro's feel about your use of the word.  Hehe.  [and he was never seen again]

Tell me, do you use these words in front of the people from these countries..., or only behind their backs?  I already know the answer to this, but curious if you'll be man enough to be honest about it.
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Post at 26-1-2012 09:40  Profile P.M. 
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No, I was only using the word "Nigga" as an example. I wouldnt use it around black people unless they were my friends only okay with my using it. And it was to ask SEAJ for his personal opinion, the word nigga is a racial slur to begin with, but within the black community it is seen as a harmless word to describe their fellow man.


As I said, around my friends, i use these words with one another and on occassions i use it to describe other people for example i might say something like "fuck, that wog has a nice pair of shoes"

Its just how we grew up here in Australia, i think the younger generation (myself) have found it okay to use it among each other and isnt used a racial slur. I believe it to be as more of a slang rather a racial slur.

I think if put in the right context, racial slurs are okay. But this is my opinion and i never use racial slurs to offend anyone. If someone called my chinky or honky, i wouldnt mind.

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Originally posted by kaiiyu at 26-1-2012 09:40
No, I was only using the word "Nigga" as an example. I wouldnt use it around black people....

Exactly.  You know this word, and many of the others you use, are offensive to the people they refer to.  Yet you still use them.  Why?  Because you are not offended by them.  Huh... typical thinking of a bigot, dude.
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Originally posted by kaiiyu at 26-1-2012 01:40
Every country has this kind of this, being from Sydney, you get a lot of racism. From the wogs hating the Aussies, to the lens hating the Asians, to the Asians hating the Aussies. I grew up with it.

You provide a very distorted view of Australia... and it's Australia Day today so double shame on you!

Today, Australia is a very multi-cultural society with an overwhelmingly positive attitude toward all cultures. Isolated acts of racism and the rhetoric that follows does not mean as a society we are racist... it just means there are idiots who live in every country... even Australia. LOL

Australian people have become much more sensitive to racism and act accordingly. From time to time our "light hearted and very dry" sense of humour can be interpreted in a way it was definitely not intended. We are becoming more conscious of that now days. Just because YOU don't find a term or phrase offensive does NOT make it OK to use.

I have to think that loveasia does not have much experience travelling in the region, in fact his posts smack of someone who has been to Hong Kong & China a couple of times and has formed his entire opinion based on a handful of experiences. Kind of like watching 2 - 3 episodes of JerrySpringer and deciding THAT's America!

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Post at 26-1-2012 16:38  Profile P.M. 
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All I'm saying is used in the right context these racial slurs don't always have to be racist.

Coming from Australia like tony said above we aren't as sensitive and yes today is Australia day but on this day you will always see an increase in racial bashing as well.

Australia is very multicultural and I love it.

What I'm trying to get at is if I was black and I used nxxga to my fellow nxxga, it wouldn't be offensive or racist. Just how I would call my Chinese friend chink.

Anyways. Time to get on the piss, like tony said its Australia day.
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Reply #26 kaiiyu's post



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All I'm saying is used in the right context these racial slurs don't always have to be racist.

You use the word SLURS, and that is what it is no matter what context or justification

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Coming from Australia like tony said above we aren't as sensitive and yes today is Australia day but on this day you will always see an increase in racial bashing as well.

Australia is very multicultural and I love it.

Multi culturalism must also involve not only tolerance, but more importantly respect for each other. How you could equate respect with using racial slurs is beyond my understanding

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What I'm trying to get at is if I was black and I used nxxga to my fellow nxxga, it wouldn't be offensive or racist. Just how I would call my Chinese friend chink.

That you would refer to yourself and/or your Chinese friends as C..ks ONLY reflects the low self esteem with which you regard yourself IMHO.
And if a white or Lebanese or whatever Australian call you "c...k" you would just take it?  That's not tolerance, that's just plain weakness/craziness.

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Anyways. Time to get on the piss, like tony said its Australia day.

Yeah perhaps best you just concentrate on matters you are able to tackle without taxing yourself. LOL!

SEAJ

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Post at 26-1-2012 19:36  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #26 kaiiyu's post

Ok, no more debate on this topic. The answer is no racial slurs in any context.

It doesn't matter what your own thoughts on this topic are, whether they are ok or not or in whatever context. Just DON'T use any racial slurs in this forum no matter what your thoughts on the subject are.

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Anyways. Time to get on the piss, like tony said its Australia day.

you mean you haven't been drinking excessively?




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SEAJ, do you even read what I say?

I said around friends and mates, I find chxxk okay because I know they aren't being racist and that was what I as saying. If someone else said it as an offensive way I wouldn't stand there and take it.

I was only say around friends and mates, we find it okay. But others no. That is why I included black people and the word Nxxga. Get what I was saying?

And what's with the personal attack? Please I didn't attack you directly and I would thank you not to attack me.

Yeah haven't been on the piss lately. Gotta try and stay in shape and keep in with my training.

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Reply #30 kaiiyu's post

Not only do I read what you say, I repeated to you what you don't seem to understand yourself when you said it

What is this compunction of yours to use racial slurs - within ANY context? To sound Hep? Hip? To show your "Street Creds?" Or perhaps to be accepted by other li'l racist idiots who, as Tony points out, ALSO exist in Australia? So that you can "blend-in" with other Australians who happens to be idiot bigots?

What...your "mates' refer to you as C...K and you're OK with that?

"Hey C...k, how ya doing today?"
"Oh yeah Haha, just fine!!"

Yeah - right....haha.. I'm fine...are YOU?? And if you are REALLY fine with anybody calling you C..k - in ANY context - then I really feel sorry for you. You may as well pull your eye-lids and slant your eyes whilst replying with laughter to "Your mates." And sing the "Ding Dong" song in your best Chinatown accent, whilst at it! Sigh....!

Anybody who'd need to and willingly take ANY racial slurs directed at him only makes a sad, pathetic caricature of his own race. Don't ever forget that!

IMHO, ANY Racial slurs words do NOT belong in ANY context - not in jest, not as humour, and certainly NOT to establish any kind of kinmanship with others who are bigoted.

OK around friends and mates?  What kind of "friends and mates" are these that needs to use racial slurs to express themselves? What kind of Australian are you? That you need to call yourself racial names! Do you need acceptance THAT bad that you'd go around racially denigrating yourself just so as to be able to "blend in with your homeboys?!"

And "personal attacks?" Yeah? Seriously?  Look-it, you ain't seen "personal attacks"....yet...so please don't get started on THAT road.

SEAJ

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Reply #31 SEAJ's post

I've given up on this one, SEAj.  He is either so spineless he follows the direction of his mates regardless of right or wrong, or just too stupid to even know the difference between the two.  Either way..., scarcely worth fussing about.   

Dude..., do yourself a favor.  Just stop offering your opinion here about other races and cultures.  Or even about your own.  Just stick to talking about sex.  This forum truly doesn't need or want your opinion on other matters.  I am sure there are plenty of forums that would be fascinated with your enlightened world view.  This aint one of them.  

Oh, and please....  Try out your lovely slang to the faces of the people you refer.  Be a man about it!  After you've learned a lesson or two, then come back and do tell.....

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by wander at 26-1-2012 00:57
Hehe.  

See how this works, LoveAsia?  Racism is like that.... Your superiority-complex is so clear in your mind you can't even see it, and... (Gotta laugh now) you work in a tatoo parlor in Taiwan p ...

First of all I don't work at a tatoo parlor in Taiwan. Where do you get your info from or is English your seconlallanguage? You are telling me that I can't see it, just where did you see that I said I worked at a tatoo parlor?? Tell us a bit about what you do?

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Reply #33 Loveasia's post

Tell you what I do?  Ummmm, no.., I won't devulge overly detailed personal data on this site.  But I will say that I don't pierce dirty navels.   And yes, I made an assumption that dirty navels often get pierced in a tatoo parlor.  My bad.

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Should I dumb myself down for this one?  

Fuck it, the new year is here and why start it with a self righteous idiot?  On your bike you go.

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Why can't mainland Chinese be themselves when visiting Hongkong,Macau and Taiwan? Why must they have ''manners'?

Why can't they talk loud, cut the queue, spit, urinate on street ?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110831210443AALs0MM
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